Same here. Only 13 hours of use. Serial number is nearly 30000.
Very happy up to now!
Crafty/Crafty+ by Storz & Bickel
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Very happy up to now!
justcametomind
Well-Known Member
I think I'm going to do the same in a few weeks. Does anybody knows if S&B Europe arranges upgrades to the Mighty if sending in a Crafty for a reasonable reason under warranty? My guess is that all of those who got it where dealing with S&B USA. Should I just send the Crafty in with a note asking for the upgrade?
My unit doesn't connect anymore via bt. Firmware is 2.05 so I should be entitled for a replacement. How much should they charge?
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Monged Monk
Let the powers of the herb open up the mind.
I dream of S&B bringing out a Crafty mk2 with titanium casing and CU, with easily replaceable batteries eg AA,GH
Maybe even with an all glass air path
Maybe even with an all glass air path
vapviking
Old & In the Way
Don't see why Germany would have different policy, though I'm not sure you will get the offer if this is your first Crafty return. It might have to be second or third before they perceive frustration and react.
If you're returning it for valid warranty reason, there's no harm at all in asking for the upgrade! Been known to happen. I like the Mighty far better than I did the Crafty(s).
justcametomind
Well-Known Member
Was it your first time returning the Crafty?
I hope so! Sent mine back with a request for an upgrade to a mighty, since the mighty now costs the same as the crafty did when i originally purchased it.
Seems reasonable and would be the max i would be willing to pay for an upgrade.
MonsterWithoutBorders
Philosophim
I have never quite understood these charts. Has anyone figured out what the optimum charging regimen is for saving battery (not for SB warranty). I do the 20-30 percent to 90 but I cannot quite compute most battery protecting amounts. Can anyone do better at chart analysis ( from quoted post)
I have it set to about 347 and 385. After a few flavourful draws at low temperature I then do the double press for high. I don't wait for green but keep using it. It does not turn off cause it is heating and by the time it does turn green it is usually done. Doing this I don't worry about it turning off
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UniqueCrafty
☆☆☆☆
Hey Crafty Vaper... ive read a few post of you, very detailed and helpful ! Thx for that.
You are german right ? Cant find a private message button...
MoneyVapeTheWorldGoRound
OG Vape God
It's been a while since my last post but wanted to share my recent experience. I purchased my original crafty in April and have absolutely loved it. I had over 160 hours on my unit until it clunked out on me on Friday the 13th of all days, which was about 11 days ago. The front part of my casing cracked about a month ago and I began to notice a decrease in performance around the same time. I left my crafty on the charger all weekend hoping it would begin charging but to no avail. I sent my crafty in on Monday with a note expressing my sincere love for the product but disappointment in the short life span. I called to confirm delivery on Wednesday and have been waiting on an email explaining what would happen from that point. I took my trash out this morning and remembered i did not check the mailbox when i got home last night. To my surprise there was a brand new Crafty sitting in there. I have been anxious to use it all day and literally just got off of work so it is go time. I am shocked (but not complaining) that they sent a new one without a confirmation email or making me sign for the package. Overall I must say that I am pleased to say the least. 
stealurfish22
New Member
Hi all... First post and i need some guidance. 
I just grabbed a crafty direct from storz&bickel....
The problem: I can't get the crafty app to connect to the crafty using my ipad air2. I'm running ios 9.1.
Many thanks in advance. Peace.
I just grabbed a crafty direct from storz&bickel....
The problem: I can't get the crafty app to connect to the crafty using my ipad air2. I'm running ios 9.1.
Many thanks in advance. Peace.
MoneyVapeTheWorldGoRound
OG Vape God
What does it say when attempting to connect?Hi all... First post and i need some guidance.
I just grabbed a crafty direct from storz&bickel....
The problem: I can't get the crafty app to connect to the crafty using my ipad air2. I'm running ios 9.1.
Many thanks in advance. Peace.
UnshavenFish
Well-Known Member
The top graph just shows 11 mobile phone batterys that have been charged and discharged 250 times (simulating a years use) and the capacity left after this compared to new.
Table 2 shows how many times you can charge the battery before it reaches 70% capacity depending on how low (DoD) you run the battery with each use.
Table 3 shows the effect temperature and amount of charge the battery is stored with has on the capacity after 1 year.
Table 4 shows how many discharge cycles you can expect depending on how full you charge the battery each time.
The bottom graph is showing how higher voltage (level of charge) reduces the number of cycles the battery with get over its life, although the crafty won't charge over 4.20v so it not really relevant as far as the figures are concerned but the theory behind it is still relevant.
So table 2 shows us that running the battery to empty will reduce the cycles over the life of the battery, table 3 shows us that high temps and a full charge should be avoided for storage, and table 4 shows us that charging to full will reduce the cycles over the life of the battery.
Basically just keep doing what your doing
and this should give your battery a longer total life at the sacrifice of runtime per charge.The way I see it is there a 3 options...
1. Longest runtime per charge = charge to full and run to empty = shortens the overall life of the battery
2. Longest overall battery life = don't charge to full or run empty = shortens runtime per charge
3. Bit of both depending on the situation, after all you have to enjoy it
IMO < that's the big IMO I forgot to add to this post
Hi all... First post and i need some guidance.
I just grabbed a crafty direct from storz&bickel....
The problem: I can't get the crafty app to connect to the crafty using my ipad air2. I'm running ios 9.1.
Many thanks in advance. Peace.
It may be a silly question but did you add your crafty serial number in the app under settings?
stealurfish22
New Member
It says something along the lines of... Crafty not detected, etc.
I made sure my bluetooth was on and the crafty was on....
I just did a search on google and it appears it may have something to do with ios 9.1.... Or at least that's what some seem to be saying...
stealurfish22
New Member
Good news...
I deleted the app... Powered down my ipad....powered up my pad...reinstalled the app....
And Bingo! We have a connection!
I deleted the app... Powered down my ipad....powered up my pad...reinstalled the app....
And Bingo! We have a connection!
biohacker
H.R.E.A.M
I'm still debating the Crafty..... I miss the one I sold a while back, but still apprehensive about the longevity/performance. Need some more reports of healthy batteries with sub 2min heatup times after 50 hours or so of usage! Just need to get my confidence up!
Does anyone own the OEM power bank from S&B? It says it recharges the Crafty two times, and seems pretty reasonably priced, or are there much better alternatives? How long would it take to charge the crafty with this power bank?
What is the charge time on an empty battery? 2 hours from what I remember?
Does anyone own the OEM power bank from S&B? It says it recharges the Crafty two times, and seems pretty reasonably priced, or are there much better alternatives? How long would it take to charge the crafty with this power bank?
What is the charge time on an empty battery? 2 hours from what I remember?
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Mr. Me2
Well-Known Member
Just checked my Crafty. It has 33 hours on it and no problems (knock on wood). I never checked heat up time but it sure feels like it's more than 2 minutes (may be closer to 3). But honestly, that's really no big deal. When I get my gh, I'll have instant heat up.
I get 3 sessions between charging and never run the battery out. I prefer its size to the Mighty and it's my go-to vape now. I keep looking for something to bump it from the top spot and can't find one!
I'm not sure how useful this is, but for what it's worth here is a chart showing (admittedly with a small sample size) heat up times for various Crafty's out there:
AKFiRe
"Cannabis has NO medical value" F$*K YOU!!
I am new to this forum, been using nothing but quality vaporizers for 5 years. I just ordered my Crafty, I live in AK & it gets below freezing daily for 6-7 months a year. I always have my Arizer solo (now it's the Air) in a Vapecase, in my truck & they both work long enough (even @ sub zero)
to get medicated & not be in extreme pain anymore. The Air makes it easier with replaceable battery that I just keep in my jacket pocket. The battery in the Crafty is my only concern to begin with. Am I going to get a message on my phone saying "battery is to cold" if I leave it in my truck long enough for it to cool down to ambient temp? I am getting concerned that I am going to have buyers remorse due to battery function. Any other cold climate users out there that can calm my concern?
biohacker
H.R.E.A.M
@Stu thanks! I wish more people participated in your most excellent thread, and your work is not unnoticed and is very much appreciated! 
@AKFiRe Welcome to FC! There is a new member in the Mighty thread as well! Nice to see FC growing due to S&B products! In your case, just IMO - i'd go with the Mighty!
@AKFiRe Welcome to FC! There is a new member in the Mighty thread as well! Nice to see FC growing due to S&B products! In your case, just IMO - i'd go with the Mighty!
AKFiRe
"Cannabis has NO medical value" F$*K YOU!!
Do you think S&B would do a upgrade for difference in cost? Or am I better off selling the crafty NIB & buy the Mighty? I almost pulled the trigger on the mighty but decided to get the crafty & the S&B power bank for portability. I also am a bit interested in the app. I was thinking that I would be ok if I warmed it up for a min on the defrost then pass-through charge with the power bank. I am now questioning my decision.
AKFiRe
"Cannabis has NO medical value" F$*K YOU!!
I am really leaning toward the mighty @ this point. I can use my air as my on the go vape. There is very little chance my wife would agree to to let me keep them both. Happy wife= $400 vape at this point. It is a larger investment into my medical needs than she would like. She had a little sticker shock the first time I showed her the mighty on S&B website. But she also knows & supports that vaporizing & injesting high grade medical cannabis on a daily basis keeps me off of 80mg oxy very 6hrs & fentanyl suckers for breakthrough. Sorry, off topic. That happens a lot while medicating before I start my day.
The battery warranty is only for a year on both units correct? I do have the S&B power bank for the crafty coming up. I could use it to charge my phone I guess if I choose the mighty. I know it will be a high quality power bank!
I do need a stealthy vape though, probably 20-25% of the time I am on the go with the family. My Air works ok for that, it is not the most stealthy vape, way more then the solo though. I just think that I will mostly use it at home, I really need it at night to sleep. The Air has pass-through charging but it has to have 10-15% or you get the flashing red light. I get down that low all the time & I have to swap battery, if I want to medicate with the Air. I don't know why this is so hard for me. I never struggled with any of my past vaporizer purchases. I am confident that I will be happy with either one, it is just deciding what part of my vape life do I want to bless with a S&B
vaporizer!! Sorry I am long winded sometimes. Also I welcome any insight or opinions.
The battery warranty is only for a year on both units correct? I do have the S&B power bank for the crafty coming up. I could use it to charge my phone I guess if I choose the mighty. I know it will be a high quality power bank!
I do need a stealthy vape though, probably 20-25% of the time I am on the go with the family. My Air works ok for that, it is not the most stealthy vape, way more then the solo though. I just think that I will mostly use it at home, I really need it at night to sleep. The Air has pass-through charging but it has to have 10-15% or you get the flashing red light. I get down that low all the time & I have to swap battery, if I want to medicate with the Air. I don't know why this is so hard for me. I never struggled with any of my past vaporizer purchases. I am confident that I will be happy with either one, it is just deciding what part of my vape life do I want to bless with a S&B
vaporizer!! Sorry I am long winded sometimes. Also I welcome any insight or opinions.
UnshavenFish
Well-Known Member
I don't have much insight, but I'm full of opinions 
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No warranty on battery as far as I know (unless your from Australia) they are classed as wear and tear items, best you normally get is between 1 and 3 month on batterys for warranty, due to the fact that how they are treated can have a big impact on how long they last.
If they are unused could you not just send one back for a full refund (maybe minus shipping costs) most places give 7-30 days to return if unused, saves you the trouble of finding someone to buy it.
It all comes down to what will fit your routine best, both perform the same (I don't have a mighty but others have confirmed this)
Crafty...heat up time around 2 mins and should get 3-5 bowls per full charge, smaller size and one button controls + app, around 2 hour charge time
Mighty...heat up time around 1 min and should get between 6-10 bowls per full charge, bigger size and full control on device, I think the charge time is also around 2 hours but I'm not 100% sure
These IMO are the main function differences to consider, going only by the threads here the mighty seems more reliable although both (as with any vape) have the potential to go wrong, with both units there are people that have had no problems and also others that have gone through multiple units.
i think the general advice is...if it's going to get lots of use and size don't matter then the mighty might fit better, but if size does matter and you like the app idea then it's the crafty, either way performance is the same so its more about how it will be used.
...No warranty on battery as far as I know (unless your from Australia) they are classed as wear and tear items, best you normally get is between 1 and 3 month on batterys for warranty, due to the fact that how they are treated can have a big impact on how long they last.
If they are unused could you not just send one back for a full refund (maybe minus shipping costs) most places give 7-30 days to return if unused, saves you the trouble of finding someone to buy it.
It all comes down to what will fit your routine best, both perform the same (I don't have a mighty but others have confirmed this)
Crafty...heat up time around 2 mins and should get 3-5 bowls per full charge, smaller size and one button controls + app, around 2 hour charge time
Mighty...heat up time around 1 min and should get between 6-10 bowls per full charge, bigger size and full control on device, I think the charge time is also around 2 hours but I'm not 100% sure
These IMO are the main function differences to consider, going only by the threads here the mighty seems more reliable although both (as with any vape) have the potential to go wrong, with both units there are people that have had no problems and also others that have gone through multiple units.
i think the general advice is...if it's going to get lots of use and size don't matter then the mighty might fit better, but if size does matter and you like the app idea then it's the crafty, either way performance is the same so its more about how it will be used.