Arizer ArGo
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LabPong
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You should not use if the battery is below 20%......get another battery or charge for a min and do pass through charge/use.
You do not want to drain your battery so low....if you use with only 18% battery level.....you would push the cell down to so low volts it could cause harm to its lifespan. I would be happy the argo would not let me use with such low power. But I have never tried to use with power so low.....so I can not say if that is a built in safety deal.
Make sure you rinse the ISO'd parts with hot then cold water to get any ISO melted impediments off. This will keep the glass cleaner from reclaim building up fast again. You can just use the napkin wet (with water) to wipe it out and rinse it good.
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OF
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Excellent advice, but I don't think the OP is interested in advice. Perhaps support for Arizer replacing it?
18% is not really enough to do a full session. If it started it would surely 'crash out' on low charge before the end. Doing so repeatedly is very likely to damage the cell. The 'fact' that the unit runs fine with more charge to me means the unit itself is working fine, which is why I too questioned the cell or connections.
I agree, locking out at some lower capacity level makes sense and would be OK with me (especially if you could do something like 5 quick presses to unlock the protection one time only), but Sales would never allow it. And for sure some would complain 'I only wanted a hit or two more......'.
Solid advice, I wonder if you'll get a response closer to 'thanks for trying to help with my problem' than my "Whatever" dismissal.
OF
Edit: In the larger point, assuming it is a defective ArGo the answer is 'you get service/replacement from the guy who sold it to you'. Not the one who made it. That's how contract law works, only the guy that trades the unit for money with you has a contract. If you bought directly from Arizer (which many of us did when it first came out) that's where your claim is, otherwise it's legally with the guy who sold it to you. Quid pro quo and all that. Each side needs 'skin in the game', they must exchange things of value with each other for there to be a contract. That's why the PIs on TV tell the new 'client' to 'give me a dollar'......that exchange of money for assistance is a contract. A deposit counts.
Many makers honor such claims from end users, but that's their choice.
OF
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Please note LP was not taking about 'left over ISO' but to "to get any ISO melted impediments off" as you quoted. Contamination of all sorts is in the ISO, even after rinsing in clean ISO. I sometimes add detergent to this sort of 'solvent cleaning' for that reason.
Another option if you have stems in rotation is to put them in the dishwasher. I do this with stem like Solo/Air/ArGo and MPs like on the DT products. Hot detergent wash there, aimed at 'pots and pans', does a fine job with basically no effort on your part. I even have a plastic funnel and short piece of tube to add on top of small bubblers and other 'problem cases' to catch more wash water and 'funnel it down'.
Regards to all.
OF (hopefully for the final edit?)
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Zoppo
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For me this is not necessary, I allways buy a lot of stems, the ones I cleaned, I'm using tomorrow. Today I'm using the stems I cleaned yesterday. There will be no smell or taste of the ISO tomorrow. I did it in this way with my Solos for years ... the cleaning with the Solos lasted a little bit longer ... but never had a bad smell or taste.
Maybe this Tipp is more important for people which are not able to change the stems on a daily basis.
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Hackerman
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Just FYI, the BG Chillum fits the ArGo perfectly. I like the OG stem for stealth and travel but the chillum is (IMO) way way better for home. It gives the stem that extra length it needs to cool the vape down a tiny bit (I vape at 420F). It holds way more than the OG stem. It is thicker glass and feels better in my mouth (no jokes, please). And, it is under $5 each.
BUYER BEWARE: These BG Chillum stems (like much glass) is not perfect and exactly the same every time. I use these BG Chillums for VapCap stems also and out of 8 I tried, only 5 fit the VapCap tip correctly. So, beware that it is possible that not ALL BG Chillum stems will fit. However, 5 out of the 5 I tried all fit the ArGo just great. Just FYI on that issue
BUYER BEWARE: These BG Chillum stems (like much glass) is not perfect and exactly the same every time. I use these BG Chillums for VapCap stems also and out of 8 I tried, only 5 fit the VapCap tip correctly. So, beware that it is possible that not ALL BG Chillum stems will fit. However, 5 out of the 5 I tried all fit the ArGo just great. Just FYI on that issue
Zoppo
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Nope, no need for water. As allways, I checked the facts. Maybe if You use the stems immideately, there could be very small traces of ISO, but normaly: "The isopropanol by MC evaporates quickly, leaving no residue."
https://www.medicalcorner24.co.uk/isopropanol-70-isopropyl-alcohol.html
But nevertheless thanks for the Tipp.
OF
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No doubt true for PURE solvent. Almost all the 10% other stuff in 90% ISO is water anyway (which will evaporate later) but here we have contaminated solvent? What happens to that tiny bit of dissolved contamination in the no longer pure solvent when that ISO evaporates? You can often see 'haze' or even 'tide lines' on glass after such cleanings? Even if you can't see it because the film is too thin, it can be there and be a 'nucleation site' where water vapor will first condense and cause the fouling to form. That old 'oil and water thing'.
That's what I think LP was warning about, if it's not I am...... Without a wash, you need LOTS of pure solvent to rinse with if you want it truly clean?
Then again it's not going to stay clean long after you use it next, there is a 'diminishing returns' factor in there too.
Your call, as always, but it should be an informed choice?
OF
smokinjetson
Member
The extended ArGo mouthpiece that I have, at lower temperatures (I start my sessions at 374° and bump up to higher temps as I go on), I have to draw for so long to get any vapor, and the vapor that I do get is not very much. The airflow to me is different than the standard mouthpiece at temps around 370°. However, once I bump up the temps later on in the session, that is when the extended mouthpiece doesn’t require an awkwardly long draw in my opinion. Anyone else have this experience?
Also, I’m looking for an extended mouthpiece tube with the silicone caps. Didn’t see the option to purchase an extended mouthpiece carrying tube on the Arizer website.
Also, I’m looking for an extended mouthpiece tube with the silicone caps. Didn’t see the option to purchase an extended mouthpiece carrying tube on the Arizer website.
The extended aroma tubes are not Arizer OEM, they are 3rd party. Your best bet would be an extended Doob Tube or the long 110mm Arizer Solo/Air Tube.
KnutAnkhAmon
Tramp
Sneaky Pete and a few others has the extended stems. I have the one from Sneaky Pete and it make the Argo a perfect device. The glass is not as smooth and easy to clean as the original but it is my favourite stem.
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whateverman
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Now the Argo screen is blurry. Did it happen to anyone?
The screen has a slow refresh rate so it doesn't appear well in photos. How does it look in person not through a still image?Now the Argo screen is blurry. Did it happen to anyone?
whateverman
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The same. Blurry and unreadable. Still works fine tho. I had contacted Arizer, lets see what they have to say about it. I guess this is what happens when you buy a newly released device.
LabPong
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No...it is not what happens when you buy the argo....it is not really newly released.....it has been out for awhile. But this is Arizer....not some other crap chinese vapes.
You are the first that I have seen with this problem and it is not at all normal.
That said.....you obviously have a warranted claim with it. I would go for returning it for service before it gets worse and does not work....I am sure Arizer will not have a problem fixing/replacing for you.
OF
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I suspect so too, although I don't understand how a pixel based display gets 'fuzzy'???
But we should remember that the 'guy' responsible for this is the guy who sold it to the end user. Not the guy that made it. Arizer has no contract (legal relationship) with the end user. They cannot be held to 'promises' absent this, quid pro quo stuff. They may well choose to honor claims, but the only guys who can claim it directly are those of us who bought from them.
Otherwise PIU or whoever you bought it from is really responsible to you (they, in turn, will deal with Arizer). Customer Service should be a factor picking Dealers, going for the cheapest available is more risky in this area? For sure Arizer isn't interested in the counterfeit you bought from China on E-Bay (not that I know of ArGo counterfeits yet, but Solo and Air ones exist). How would a product made in Canada end up in China for a lower price? Still Dealers here have been reported to be offering them in their shops as genuine.
OF
Edit: I was curious enough about the display to dig out my ArGo and check it out. It's been a while since I used it, but my memory was right. The important feature, the temperature display is HUGE, how it can be "unreadable" and yet still be seen as a display to be called 'fuzzy' I definitely don't follow. Failures of this type of display typically have rows or columns of pixels give out. Since you view directly there's nothing to go out of focus???
Strange.
OF
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OF
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Great suggestion! 'Outside the box' as they say. The window could be fogged.... That should be easy to spot by careful inspection? It should not be perfectly uniform nor optically 'true' if so you'd think.
Way to go HM!
OF
Zoppo
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Still testing my Argo and surpise, surprise, last night I tested it with 20% less material (90 mg/stem) compared to the Solo II and it worked! I think my suggestion the Argo may be more efficient as the Solo is correct.
By the way, I bought a digital-thermometer to compare the screen-temperature vs. oven-temperatur, of the Argo and the Solo II, another surprise. At those two temperatures I tested, the oven-temperature, of the Argo was (only) four centigrade lower as that on the screen, with uncovered oven. Cause I can't post photos of this test, I will post a video and think this will be a surprise for everybody!
I will test it again on saturday, have to measure it again when the ovens are covered. The heatlost with uncovered oven seems to be to much whith the Solo! So, wait until saturday, I will compare the Argo to the Solo II on different temperatures and post the video on saturday.
By the way, I bought a digital-thermometer to compare the screen-temperature vs. oven-temperatur, of the Argo and the Solo II, another surprise. At those two temperatures I tested, the oven-temperature, of the Argo was (only) four centigrade lower as that on the screen, with uncovered oven. Cause I can't post photos of this test, I will post a video and think this will be a surprise for everybody!
I will test it again on saturday, have to measure it again when the ovens are covered. The heatlost with uncovered oven seems to be to much whith the Solo! So, wait until saturday, I will compare the Argo to the Solo II on different temperatures and post the video on saturday.
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thx1138
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I was having trouble with my new Argo at first, mostly involving the depth of the bowl and my style of puffing. I was packing it and not getting a good draw, or not getting everything out of an oven. So I took a basket screen from my Enano and put it in the Argo stem backwards. The stem now holds about half the original amount of material, but its all packed up close to the top. The draw is very free, the session is a little shorter, and I never have trouble with draw restriction from improperly packing my oven. I get a really good 6 minute session with the most unrestricted flow I have experienced on a portable mini vape. You have to squeeze in the out diameter of the basket screen a little, but with some coaxing, it does fit very snugly.
You can fill the stem half way and fly screen free very easily. I just prefer all glass and even though the material isn't close to the tip of the aroma tube/closest to the base, the dynamics of the ArGo heater really shine for a microdose in this setup.
Zoppo
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Yes, it is! It get's a little bit higher ... very slowly. But I think this is okay, cause the stem will cool it down a little bit. Actually I don't have the equipment for further measurements (heat of the hot air), which would be more interresting. But the oven is okay, even with a low battery.
OF
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Thanks. I think it's a bit more accurate to say 'the oven system' is OK. More specifically the temperature sensor and control circuits are what's being tested here, really. But the idea is sound.
The battery charge level really has nothing to do with it (within limits). If it's weak, the control just holds the heater on a little longer to make up for it. A bit like cruse control on your car.
Excellent performance, really, for not much money. Thanks to very accurate, low cost sensors available today.
Thanks again, it should give owners confidence.
OF
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