ACDC vape?

EtherealAtaraxy

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Let's assume I'm at home and using one of these to avoid a potential DUI:
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Could I modify one of these:
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To function as a convection vaporizer featuring a satisfying "Pop" once it has reached temp?

(I understand car cigarette lighters, under normal circumstances, get up to combustion temperatures and combust cigs/joints via direct contact conduction. That's not what I mean. It would be modded for air to pass through the heating element and heat herb via convection like a ball vape.)
 
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Radwin Bodnic

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I think you'll just need to drill holes under the top collar (look at the most recent screwball for inspiration) and then it's just a matter of distance between your material and the heater...

Edit. As a bowl I would use a simple borosilicate standard taper tube in which the heater fit and adjust the screen height inside the tube.
 
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EtherealAtaraxy

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I don't think so... but it looks like the TM heater and the Morwood devices heaters...
Interesting...
Sure does, doesn't it?

Curious what kind of distance would be necessary to use it as is with an unmodified coil and just holes drilled like you said.
Or if the mechanism that triggers the "Pop" could be modified to go off earlier before it gets too hot for vape temps.


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Stainless steel would be safe...
 
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Radwin Bodnic

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Or if the mechanism that triggers the "Pop" could be modified to go off earlier before it gets too hot for vape temps.
That's a bimetallic tab. I don't think it can be calibrated... imho your best bet is to dial the temp with the distance heater / material.

Btw, do you know what material is the coil made of ?
 

EtherealAtaraxy

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That's a bimetallic tab. I don't think it can be calibrated... imho your best bet is to dial the temp with the distance heater / material.

Btw, do you know what material is the coil made of ?
I was unknowingly answering your reply in my previous post edit before I even seen it. Haha. Sorry.

Maybe they can be calibrated by adjusting the thickness of the steel/copper. Not sure..

taluoka Cigarette Lighter https://a.co/d/62r2sDf
^ Stainless SteeI

Would be one of the cheapest vapes of all time lol.
$11.95 for the lighter and adapter.

 
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fangorn

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Interesting...
Sure does, doesn't it?

Curious what kind of distance would be necessary to use it as is with an unmodified coil and just holes drilled like you said.
Or if the mechanism that triggers the "Pop" could be modified to go off earlier before it gets too hot for vape temps.


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Stainless steel would be safe...


Dan Morrison's heater

 
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KeroZen

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Heating air is the easy part in making any vaporizer. The Devil is in all the "details" around the heater itself, that provide a satisfying and convenient vaping experience, without risks of burning yourself or accidental combustion etc.
 

Hippie Dickie

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Btw, do you know what material is the coil made of ?
pretty sure that heater coil is nichrome ribbon - probably 60 rather than 80. the ones i have seen will corrode from thermal cycling and nichrome80 doesn't.

i used the heater ribbon from my car cigarette lighter in one of my first vape designs. even got a camping 12v battery to power it. my design has evolved.
 

EtherealAtaraxy

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pretty sure that heater coil is nichrome ribbon - probably 60 rather than 80. the ones i have seen will corrode from thermal cycling and nichrome80 doesn't.

i used the heater ribbon from my car cigarette lighter in one of my first vape designs. even got a camping 12v battery to power it. my design has evolved.
I didn't expect a legend to reply 😆.
Most of them are nichrome probably. I couldn't say if they're 60 or 80 or whatever, I really don't know.
Supposedly some of them are made of stainless steel though. I imagine that would be the metal of choice.
 

KeroZen

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Morwood vapes heaters use Nichrome btw (Nomad, Toad), and it's also used in some ecig mesh "coils", so nothing wrong with that. Spare the possible Nickel allergy concerns, but those also happen with the most common SS alloys.

But you can't easily control Nichrome temperature by way of resistance change readings alone, so you would need some external sensor (provided you want to go further than your bi-metallic switch idea)
 
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EtherealAtaraxy

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Morwood vapes heaters use Nichrome btw (Nomad, Toad), and it's also used in some ecig mesh "coils", so nothing wrong with that. Spare the possible Nickel allergy concerns, but those also happen with the most common SS alloys.

But you can't easily control Nichrome temperature by way of resistance change readings alone, so you would need some external sensor (provided you want to go further than your bi-metallic switch idea)
I kinda like the idea of it just popping up once it reaches temp. Similar to the click that the dynavaps have, but more pronounced.
 
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