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They both suck air through hot glass over weed ... and are meant to be used with a bong Not really changing the game, is it?

The downside of the closed screen chamber is you can't see what's going on

Hopefully they do release it someday. They should change the name from The Cloud to The Conundrum. The item that nobody wants to be vaporware, yet everybody wants to be vaporware at the same time!

All Metal/plastic/silicone airway, and god knows what's going on down in the heater Looks like it probably tastes nasty (and of course since it is a whip vape, hot and dry)

Anyone bothered to go over the cons of this device? I will. In no particular order: 1) Glass tube is a straight shot through, so no venturi effect 2) Optimized for their special bong with a hole in the bottom, which is the worst possible place to put the intake on a bong. The demonstation...

I'm trying to decide which would be the best to buy and my problem with the Cloud (besides the fact that it can't be bought currently) is that it is optimized to be used with their special bong that has the hole in the bottom. I like to use ice and that means ice will be melting and whether I...

-not just the VHW and glass pipe, but you also need the special bowl that the VHW plugs into (Vaporization Chamber Bowl with shorty upper intake for the VHW Vaporization Heat Wand) and the specific stem to mate it with your type of glass pipe Your link text