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Hi @PPN , thank you for your reply. I've had a good time with the novae since then. I think I've understand it better after a few times using. However maybe the herb I used was stored for too long, that I didnt get the expected effect as I did (same herbs, with joint). I will try it with new...

Hi guys, I got a new novae a few days ago and then found this thread. Can anyone give comparision between novae and odin? I find the vapor is a little hot (me only? maybe cuz i'm new) and putting in the pocket is not convenient because of the mouth piece. Is the odin's vapor cooler?