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The 20mm will work great for most people. I haven't tried the flat coil setup that the 30mm requires but Bonsai has them all and he likes the 20mm the best as well. "Big Dabbing" for the 30mm to really be advantageous is like 1/8 gram dabs minimum (like almost three rice grains!).

Was wondering the same thing. Did you find out anything?

I'm sorry but I feel Errlectric's prices are audacious. My understanding is that there isn't TOO much that goes in to these PID units and coils. Then they force you to use their coil/nail combo and pay $250 to $400 on top of the already ridiculous price.

Hey Bonsai, what will be the main differences between the two carb caps, the storm cell and hurricane?

Got it. Sounds like they might be thinner across the board. Might all be coming from the same fabricator.

Haha would have been funny but frustrating! I know the new D-Cycler looks so nice! I ordered the 710 just an hour ago. But will almost certainly wind up buying both. Just ordered it. I noticed the one knock in the reviews of Steven's are that the glass is a bit thin, especially on the mouth...

Insanely helpful. You are the man!

Thanks for the in-depth response, Mutten. I'm welcome to other opinions. In the meantime I have a follow up question for you: Do you notice any flavor differences in the DNail vs Liger if the same material insert is used?

Alright dabbers. I did this question with the two bubbler kings of DHGate. So now I will do it with the two nail kings. I am only interested in answers from people who have tried both, and reasoning is appreciated: Which is king... The Liger or the Dnail? Let's assume surfaces are the same, SiC...

Thanks MrBonsai. I got tie with a vote for the D-Cycler, but hanfhead didn't expand on the "why" or even state that he tried both. Ultimately I liked your comment about flavor, and you also make a good point on "other recyclers". I already own five pieces, including a giant recycler (the...

FC-710 or D-Cycler??? I know these are both highly respected on here. Which one gets the edge? I'm using it for oil only with an enail.