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So I got my new ht (after having a leaky one) works wonderfully, still have the small bamboo, but my elbs are working fine (after pushing into another 18mm male to train them), so are the clouds they produce :). Noticed they sold out their evos on the main site..in fact most Hydrotubes are sold...

Ok cool. Your probably right, I'll wait until we get through the holiday season and they get their staff trained/manufacturing kinks worked out, that should give me enough time to formulate a more well rounded opinion. If it annoys me I'll send it back. Thanks for all your help, happy thanksgiving.

I did not mean to insinuate that my unit is worth a greater amount of money, just that it is different which makes it unique to me on a personal level. In any case you do have me worried about performance. So far I have not really seen any problem with producing "clouds" and such. Fixing my elbs...

I wrote 14mm when I meant 18mm, sorry about that..14 would be a little tight.

Ya he told me about the 5000th of an inch defect. My unit works perfectly aside from this, and honestly after "fixing" my elbs with the 14mm trick, its a none issue now. But I totally understand wanting a new unit. I'm into collectable card games (netrunner), and when there is a misprint...

Bought a sidetree give thanks bundle. Sidetree is defective, leaks to bottom chamber with even a drop of water, and the elbs were super tight. Emailed support, they are sending me a new sidetree. As for the elb's I just found out (like 5min ago) that you can make the elbs perfect by inserting...