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I bought mine on eBay for 179 shipped and it came with a grinder. It arrived with a broken elbow attached to the whip but the seller immediately sent out a replacement without an issue promptly. Mine took only two days to arrive. I ordered it on a Sunday and it came tue.

Thanks for the update SM!

China holds roughly 8% of the us's debt... That isn't good. Middle eastern countries hold a little bit more. Look at apple corp, they refuse to pay taxes and hold all of their 100 billion dollar profits offshore. Yet Obama praises them... Am I the only one who finds this extremely disturbing...

You could also have some beautiful cnc pieces made of billet alumn built into the stand to hold the piece as well. Another option at a lower cost but just as strong that would impose no risk of scratches or damage to the glass would be to cnc a holder out of derlin composite material.

Thanks for the insight :) it's a good feeling to know their customer service image is something the have great pride in not having tarnished.

Oh he'll yeah lol

Did the admin submit the site to tapatalks directory?

Wow, packed the bowl, let her warm up for 15 mins and began hitting it at 200 with the fan on 1. I was so fricken vaped it's not even funny. I literally had to lay down. Wow! I guess I need to take two hits off the whip instead of 10 next time!

Just causes us to spend so much on machines you will go broke! Lots of cool vaporizers on the market that I want!

Well that sucks, I was hoping they would be shipping these out In masses by may. I guess the custom glass is not only expensive, but time consuming to manf as well as keeping up with quality control.

It's actually true.. Australia built that super max prison for a reason, not to mention, the most difficult convicts in New Zealand are sent there without hesitation. Aussie government came to pelican bay before building there version of it... They took it to an entirely different level and...

Yeah I'm with you, it's totally to much crammed into one bill. I think efforts focused to legalizing, transport, use, etc should be the main focus. You could then go after expunged previous convictions later. I'm still not all happy for releasing criminals from prison because marijuana isn't...

So ideally, what do you suspect is the wait time on clouds for those who only just recently pre-ordered? Looks like an amazing machine and wish I could grab one right now!

You left out, the most important country, Australia. They have the most violent prisoners in the entire world. They dont have a large population of inmates but they do have the most high prison thrn anywhere in the world to hold the badass of all badasses. California is the most unique state...

Ok, so I tried my indica strain and packed a full bowl in the cyclone. Wow, big difference. Hit it at 200 and had about 14 long and deep hits off the whip. For the first time watching American idol, I didn't want to reach in and grab Ryan seacrest by the neck! Thanks for the advice, can't...

I was watching nancy grace last night I think and it was brought up, the avg student who graduates college, owes a minimum of $25k In student loans and avg is roughly $75k. Then this dweeb goes on about how everything under a chap 11or 13 bk is protected BUT student loans. The amount of...

Thanks... And just to clarify, you do not goto prison unless you have a criminal history. The real only exceptions to this is obviously manslaughter, murder and narcotics trafficking. I think it's easier to say, most of the people in the system now, belong there. There's very few exceptions...

Thanks V4L, I found a bubbler I think will work to get the most out of this. Iill admit, I wasn't using much herb in the bowl, so I'll try adding herb to the black. I was using maybe 2x of what would fit in an elbow pack. I'll fill up the cyclone and see how ripped I get when I sit down with...

Is it safe to say that th cyclone is pretty much full?

Thanks for your help. I'll check out alt and see if I can find the headfords you are describing.