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Ok, makes sense! The ones I just got are hefty for sure but like I said, pull great.

Thanks man!

Is ALT the best place to buy Mobius for the right price?

Some people have been saying the chinese glass isn't good. Is there chemicals they use or is it the quality they don't like? Also, Thanks a lot! All my buddies were flabergasted about how much I spent.

All Dhgate, recommendations from you actually!

Damn, that piece is nice. Still enjoying it? How tall is it?

Just got a bunch of cheap China glass. They all seem to pull very well, I was actually impressed.

Was thinking of biting the bullet. What is the advantage of the adapt a sub/adapt a nail versus just the nail? Worth the extra cost?

So does the RAW actually combust the herb? Does the glass piece actually prevent this? I need a pen that does oil,wax and actual herb without combustion. I thought this could be it but have seen many reviews say it combusts. Bummer.

For people with the showercap, how are you cleaning it?