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Done it, do it and don't highly reccomend it. I mean it can be cleans but if you're doing both often it's a nightmare. You will probably want to clean it after each combustion...and that gets tiersom. Probably better off getting a cheap bong for exclusively smoking.

Say for example one was using this on 60% and keeping the button held down for entire draws, how hard would it be to combust? For example with the hammer even once I reach vaping temps I usually hold the button down for well over a minute or two while hitting it and only combust off drawing...

Mostly never heat it like that, just someone wanted to see clouds :) heat in the hand and hit is the way to go:)

Doing direct draw straight off the tong, I seem to taste a slight flavour.

I notice I can pick up the slightest flavour of Teflon but it is very mild to the taste of the herbs through the HA and I even find the smell of the warm TONG pleasant.

I terms of raw horse power with more temp control and instant heatI think something with a zion heater... more regulation and plug in would really start to be like a e-nano/Evo hybrid.

The same way my frying pan doesn't give me an exact temp but we have been cooking meat for over 100000 years. Some like it rare some like it well done.... And you know if it's burnt.

You don't know! It's power regulated but still manual. There is a community of those who desire exact temp then there are those who don't care for it. I personally don't care what the exact temprature is and for those of us like that, the Zion is going to be a game changer for sure.

I think what we can take from this is that the Zion blows such giant clouds of tasty vapor that some people are convinced that it MUST be combustion! WOOOOOP WOOOOP! Bring on the public launch of this smoke machine! Might hire mine out to DJ's in the weekend!

power? The openness of the airpath. You can throw the same fuel in a little 1.3L Japanese buzz box... Throw that same fuel in a 6.0L V8 and you're going to get more HP. The temprature tou beleive cannabis combust at is wrong. Vaporization starts around 340 give or take and vaporiztation can be...

I think it's reasonable to assume the zion should be able to blow clouds bigger than the v tower. Ignition temps are not what you beleive that's why you're hittinf your head against the wall. When people say ignition temp we aren't talking 500c! It isn't even 500f!

That is your personal opinion of high vs low temp vaping, but it's still vaping all the same. It is not called combustion until there is ignition. Combustion-the process of burning something. Unless you have a large desktop which can act as a big heat soak low temps tend to produce smaller...

The combustion temp of weed is around 450, and in a convection vape the temp at the heater is not the temp that reaches the herb. Then there is draw speed, and many other elements. There sre plenty of resources on this forum if you want to read around, but insisting that people are conbusting...

Black ABV is fine, not liked by some but preferred by others. I can jam 2grams into the HA and crank it to max temp. It with come out Sudanese black and not combust, in fact unless seriously faulty I doubt a HA has combusted anything ever. Ash is what's left behind by combustion, dark black is...

If concentrates are going to be more than a rarity go with the haze I'd say! Or the hammer, cheaper will blow bigger clouds and can be used as a dabbing rig. Only ever tried once due to my geographical disadvantage but it was pretty cool. I personally think I'd prefer this method of concentrate...

I have vaped many bongs, I have coughed many times and I have also combusted more than a few times and I'm certain I was aware of everyone. I cough with Vapor through water, i think a lot of people do. Here is a good bench mark video for those that don't understand how dense vapor can get...

I 3rd that motion, if you combust you know. A slight charring is not combustion, combustion is when the herb ignites. The taste buds measure this monumental fuck up within a fraction of a second! Can not be overlooked really.

Haha yea... Oopppssss! Lord knows what I have done with my email:( but confirmation from George in a pm in October so I'll just keep on keeping on! Haha. Very exciting when it goes to the main section! Anyone with a VM and vc that can do any comparison?

I don't use the crucible now, wish I still had it, putting the solo gong in the crucible and then into the HA makes a better fit than gong directly in the heater.

Oppppsss! I read that as you ordered in novermber and December... Silly me, december 9 was yesterday :/ haha.