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The SSV swivels where the wand connects, so if you move, it doesn't just pull off...at least that's what I thought. So the vapor is the same in term if cleanliness?

I don't have money for the SSV at the moment, but is the DBV the same thing? Same heating element? Ultimately, I want the cleanest air path and vapor. And is the vapor identical on the DBV and SSV? Or is the SSV giving a more premium air path too? I understand the SSV looks cooler and...

Some people say the whip effects the taste.

Stainless steel might not be toxic but it's still metal that can cause respiratory issues if it's in the lungs. It can also cause internal bleeding. We are assuming this is pure Stainless because that's what Ploom said. I trust Ploom's company, they provided responses and that's more than most...

Well I didn't expect them to say something negative but I was hoping for a comfortable response. On one hand, they said it was toolin marks but on the other hand my common sense tells me that's a perfect cover up. The action? Are you talking about the turning on and turning off pax? If so this...

Me too. I know exactly what's in mine. It's more of a worry what won't be able to get out of my system, like small pieces of metal! *My pax is black, and it's for sale 150 obo. Comes with box, receipt, and a lot of ploom lube. It's in near mint condition with a few light scratches from being...

I have a tiny bubbler...that's what in using. The stress of knowing there is metal flakes inside me somewhere freaks me out...sucks. If anyone wants to buy a pax with valid warranty (receipt) hit me up lol Just took a rip off my bub for the first time in over a month of not combusting...so...

Agreed, those models don't have moving metal pieces rubbing against each other... but this is the Pax thread... And based on my observation and the response from Ploom, I am not confident in the Pax. I don't know how serious or not serious the metal concern is for Pax users. I just know that...

ISO...and they are very hard to notice but they exist...

You are on this forum, what vapes do you own? I agree with you completely. That's why I sense so much caution and ask so many questions on this forums. My concerns are legitimate. I have been using pax every day since February...I wonder how much metal has been inhaled ...and even worse, still...

I did contact ploom...they responded. In short they said that it could be from the tooling process. They also said Pax went through third party testing... But they can't call Pax "safe " since it's a tobacco product. They recommended I check with my physician... Don't know how I feel about the...

I doubt they would either BUT I see the scratches. This means the metal that was scratched out went somewhere... You don't need to be a Harvard grad to know that.

cant help but think of metal being stuck in my lungs and esophagus...its only logical that every time you turn pax on or change the temperature, that you are shedding off little bitty pieces of the metal.

what do i need to order with this to make sure i can use it with my bubbler? I have a 14mm female downstem... also what is Zone Rate Shipping (6.00) vs standard (free)? anything else i should order? FC members get any hook up? Also, I am at the page that says confirm...but it hasnt asked me...

Nano wins.

I'm not questioning the metal, I am pretty sure it's medical grade stainless. But like I said, if you shine a light down the mouthpiece (the bottom that connects to the body), you will see scratches...this means the finish and metal itself has been scratched. Metal pieces had to of been...

Over on the e nano thread I am being more convinced that the e nano might be a better choice than the SSV... Any SSV lovers over here that prefer the SSV over the Nano? Why? The only negative I can find is the whip taste...

The mouthpiece connects to the body via the two metal vapor paths. The parts that are moving when you press on and off...every time you turn on your pax those metals are rubbing. Look inside the pax mouthpiece with a light, you will see tiny scratches = tiny metal flakes = inhaled inside...

I assume you work for epic? In short, are your electronics superior than the SSV? I am on the fence about going to the store now and buying a SSV or ordering a nano... I tried calling epic today and yesterday to ask a few questions, no answer...

Do they only sell the nano online? Any other stores carry it?