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....I want to send mine back to ploom...it is less than one week old and had four oven loads through it... ...even with a fine grind and low temp the abs looks like it came out of an Atmos Raw rather than a proper vaperizer.... ...do any of you guys examine your avb under a scope...

...the metal issue and the legalese response from ploom is certainly a put off for me... ...between that and the scortching I don't think I will be loading this oven again... ...I guess I have some reading to do...this forum has given me some direction fer shur....

...will there be blood...???...

...methinks it would look better without the logo....

...thanks...I am starting to get used to mine... ...I really want to like this thing...the design is ingenious... ...I am uncomfortably particular though.... ...I sort of expected Mother Mary to come out of the mouthpiece and heal my lungs...

...the Pax unit I am using takes aboot 70 seconds to get to temperature at the highest setting....is this within normal parameters...???... ...I thought I saw some saying their oven took more like 30 seconds...

...and don't waste your time with bad buds...

...I read that review and I must be some kind of idiot... ...

....well, packing the oven tighter seems to help... ...there is no way this device is only heating to 215-250 F.... ...it is curious that I cannot get an accurate reading with proven pyrometer. .. ...there is indeed a serial number printed where it should be but even a lame counterfeit...

...will do...thanks for the tip... ...the stuff does get dark brown...the pyrometer shows 500+ on the stove top so maybe it isn't getting a good reading...I usually trust it to give accurate data though... ...has anyone else tried a pyrometer on their Pax oven...???...

...using a ray tech pyrometer aimed at the the floor of the oven gave me those readings... ...I will try the meter on the stove...I thought the readings were low but did not see the temperatures specified before... ...one person said it sounded like the thing was getting too hot...now I am...

...great minds think alike... (grin) ...seriously....I was just wondering if that would be worth doing with the brown stuff I get out of a Pax...

...the store I bought me Pax at is an authorized dealer and the temperature ranges at the floor of the oven are aboot 215 to 230 to 250 (F) on the three settings... ...maybe I am expecting a bit much from it...I guess I do not have the technique down like the Vapeman does.... ...my experience...

...it is a pretty good counterfeit if so... ...I bought it at a brick and mortar store in ME so hopefully (?) I am unlucky... (WTF! )

...wow...broke the first time out... ...it was on the high setting out of the box and not the medium setting as specified as default...I didn't think that was significant... ...I think I will mesure the temperatures on GP before sending it off to be sure it is broken and not just lame...

...I aquired a Pax and have been disappointed....I might as well have bought an Atmos Raw for $200 less... ...this unit is combusting the material and leaving lots of trisomes visable under a scope... ....you could say it has harshed me mellow.... ...it is at the low setting but it is...

...check out "winterizing"... ...you are on the right track methinks... ... I believe the dark blobs are waxes you are trying to remove... ...understand that this post is the blind leading the blind, though...

...I feel for the sixshooter...the information here is overwhelming and not all that, ah, coherent at times... ...I am here on the same misson... ...I originally thought butane was the solvent of choice thsee days but now am am not so sure... ...it would be nice if someone could just tell us...

...that is like asking what the "best" strain is...best for what...???... ...there is no best.... ...you have found a good place to do some reading...

...is this in addition to other media in the tube...???...sort of like a shot shell wad...???...