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...I just wish I had bought mine @ Puffitup behind their no hassles return policy... ...I was actually starting to like the Splinter as I grew more practiced with it, but quality control issues and a fundamental lack of support at the wholesale level has, IMHO, undermined a good product...

...this thread delivers... ...I was able to grok the irregularities n' shit and figgered to try another stem instead of sending the splinter back... ...I still can't say that I like the Splinter...there is quite the learning curve it would seem... ...a lot of folks seem to like it just fine...

...do you like it better than a Splinter...???... ...how would you feel aboot a trade...???...

...I bought a Firefly a few weeks ago and was satisfied with it until it stopped heating yesterday... ....I thought it was a charging issue at first but even fully charged the bowl doesn't heat up any more... ...it was working fine right up until it didn't, except I never saw the amber...

...don't drop your loaded Pax... (DoH!)...(LoL)

...thanks bro...I have a hard on for the Summit FS22L but will check that unit out... ...there must be an optimal temperature for ethanol extraction... ...is it 0% f...-20% f...-40...???... ...it has been put forth that too low a temp may slow or prevent the extraction process, but where...

...looks like I was on the right track when I asked aboot low temperature frezzers... ...from a cost perspective a small -20f unit was what I had in mind...

...I want to extract them ALL...

...I asked the same thing aboot temperature and the answer was confusing...

....we're all lookin for something....

...it is not likely to get past a metal detector...

...would it be worth getting the temperature down below 0...???... ...I figured that one might as well have a dedicated freezer and saw a small Summit low temperature freezer that can operate at -20 degrees for fairly cheap...

...thanks for posting that.... ...people were doing a bit of speculating... ...would a system like the terpenator be usable with those cowboy gasses...???...

...'Dlow might have me on ignore but I am taking notes... ...one thing I remain uncertain of even after reading skunk phama is the ratio of solvent to material... ...how many milliliters of 195 % ethanol would you use for 28 grams of nice bud...???... ...

...that would be nice... ...the more I read here the more I am thinking to blow off the BHO and use a QWET method as we will need to use so much ethanol anyways... ...am I repeating meself...???...I am just trying to grok wtf I am missing here...I am easily confused...

...I have been eyeballing a kit like that for a while...

...not trying to be a dik here... ...seriously...considering the amount of ethanol we will use to purge what not just use as extraction solvent...???...(eh)

...well, the store didn't sell vocano concentrate pads as a separate item... ....maybe I will compress some ss steel wool and make a pellet that fits the Pax oven........if you don't think I might get too much microsopic stainless steel particles in the airway.... ...I have heard the Pax...

...why not do qwet and not use the butane in the first place...???...

...I have a Kevlar vest but I am not wraping my Pax oven in it... ...still, the hot air filter application is surprising...although that is surely some industrial situation and not something we breath through...