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Thx. The rubber taste is very strong, very. That's concerning to me that yours was good on the first puff. My friend is dying to come try it and I told him "no way in hell I'd let you use this thing right now". I'll soak the rubber. Thx man.

So I have one use in the books. It tasted fucking nasty. I'm assuming I should have run the unit empty for a few minutes first. I just took it out of the box, loaded it, got after it (on low mainly, then mid for a minute or two). It tasted like fresh new rubber and metal fumes. Fax machine...

How is the vapor compared to the Pinnacle Pro? I've never had a bad thing to say about my Pro, my favorite vape to date, but the flavor is not the best after just a few hits (I only use setting 1). That's really my only criticism of the Pro.

I ordered the Alfa yesterday, it'll be here tomorrow. :rockon:

Nice. Thx folks. Stoked to get it. I'm intrigued even more knowing it works well without grinding. For traveling sake that's nice.

How is the flavor on medium temp? Does anyone use the AP/AT settings?

First off, that's so good. Thanks for the laugh, man. Secondly, are you all serious that they're just now getting through Nov 2013 orders? If so, good lord.... I need to go back to forgetting about this thing. Darn false sense of hope....:ugh: My Alfa will be here within 7 days to help me...

Thx. I'm ordering an Alfa today. Edited to add: Mission complete!

How are the clouds on low, visible or not? I just did a Vaporblunt 2.0 session and the flavor is so good, but there's just something about not being able to see visible vapor that always makes me feel like I'm not getting medicated enough (which sucks). It's mental I know, but still...

Alfa or the Airizer Air? I want to buy a new vape, which one would you all pick. Don't care about the money, flavor is my #1 concern. Thx in advance.

Fair enough. And I am not in any way trying to be unnecessarily unfair to them, I do wish them success. In fairness I could say that my first inquiry to GHL was in July 2014 and paid my $300 in Feb. Thanks for keeping me honest, amigo :tup:

Another great point. I'm starting to believe that we think the same way simply because we both have guitars in our avatars...:rockon: I'd venture to say that 8 out of 10 people have never started their own business. I do appreciate the positive outlook folks are trying to keep, I am too, but I...

Best post yet. If the first reported one went out in June, and they've said they've produced 450 to date (3 months), that's pretty easy math to do, 150 going out per month (with about 10% shitting the bed). I swear, I'm not a pessimist. :)

Agreed. Again, trying to stay positive, but they're the masters of bullshit. These updates are proactive damage control. I lost the excitement a while back (probably after my 3rd new shipping month) but at this point these updates just add to my disappointment. They definitely don't pass...

I think you answered your own question :tup: Trying to stay as positive as possible :rockon:

I think you're right. That update smells like code for "September ain't happening". Darn.

I upgraded my second / back-up unit (ss) to a Ti yesterday. They said there would be no (more) changes to my shipping date by doing so. Now I want waffles.

Related, does it work well (as predicted) when not using a grinder? So if I were to just pinch a piece of nugg off & stuff it in, is it effective?

⬆⬆ Fuck. Did I read that someone put some stems in it? That's hilarious. Reminds me of 7th grade. Thx for sharing. Edit: I sent an email a couple days ago asking about a ship date (because ankle biting is fun) I got this reply back from Trevor's email address: "When your order is close...

Nice, thx. There aren't many bad things I can say about the Pro so these kinds of comparisons keep me excited.