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At the moment the only item available in the store is the heat shield.

I’m assuming that you can get it with only the half chamber? In the post he says 229 for the anvil with a full chamber.

How much will it cost to get the same items in the former User Edition kit? All told. Base unit, case, whatever bowls and accessories came with the kit.

Maybe some difference between the way the knockoff and the grav piece are made? Mine also drains only through the mouthpiece and I do have to shake a bit, but I can get all the water out in a decent amount of time.

I’m confused by what you’re saying here. Is there some way you can contact John and get some clarification on what we’re going to see offered in less than 10 hours at this point?

I just said 2 posts ago that it would be fine the a la carte model ended up costing less than the full price of the kit. The simplest way to keep us from “jumping to conclusions” would be for someone representing Vestratto to tell us the pricing.

Damn. Sorry. I hope you make a full recovery asap.

Look, I get that you like it. But I’m not about to pay any price for it, and moreover, we should know the price beforehand.

I don’t know if you’ll see that. Even when the kit was available it was the full retail price of 250. 200 was what the Founders people paid. If it turns out that you could leave off parts of the kit (though I’m not sure why you would) and save some money that way, that’s one thing. But either...

I don't know about gouging, but up until about a hour or so ago, we were under the impression that we could buy the full-price Users Edition Kit as has been sent to Founders Edition buyers. Now we're told that the kit is no longer available, everything is a la carte and nothing has been said...

Me too, but really I think if there’s a last minute change like this it’s not unreasonable to want to know the a la carte pricing.

I’d also like to have some idea of the pricing, since it appears that the “kit” price is no longer available. If it’s the case that buying the equivalent of the kit a la carte is the same price as the kit was, that’s fine. But I’d like to know.

If it’s the same email I got, no.

So it’s entirely a la carte now? Will the price end up being higher, or can you get the equivalent of the Founders replacements for the usd 250?

So if those of us on the “waitlist” manage to grab a unit, we will pay full retail price and what is included?

How far in advance is the waitlist being notified? John’s already said that there’s more people on the waitlist than are units available. And, to be clear, all the waitlist gets you is this advance notice that the store is open to the public? I can’t believe that that information is going to...

I was using mine (the actual Grav) yesterday with an ash catcher and the DC Elev8r. I had no trouble milking it and the vapor is very cool. It takes some shaking to empty the water but I’m able to clean mine and change the water without too much trouble.

Re-opening to everyone, or people on the waitlist?

Search back through the thread and you'll find where to buy the replacement and links to a video on how to replace it. It's really really easy.

Are you the original owner? Also did you buy in the first drop? It may be your button. I was getting subpar results with my Mi3. I replaced my button and the thing rips like almost nothing else I own (well, the Zion M...)