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Soooo what's with the tornado discs in almost all the fritted disc pieces? Any benefit in that? Or just "Cool" looks?

Yeah I can't seem to find any single fritted disc pieces on dhgate. They all have a tornado disc above them. Or is that actually a beneficial thing? And none of them come with that widened oval area above the fritted disc. Like this: Those Max Glass Quality ones look neat though.

could someone elaborate on this? why is it not "ideal"?

Wow, just read some pages of this thread. Ofc now I really want a fritted piece, but I'd also rather quit vaping than give my money to Dave. Is there any dhgate sellers who have similar pieces? Or american if it's not $200+ Oh and regarding the FAQ page that Caligula mentioned; looks like they...

How about some wheels?

Yeah I actually have the HA2.2. Love it. So glad I didn't get the arizer extreme q. (just my :2c:)

that sounds like my distant relative Prince Ab di Labana from Zimbabwe. He's gona give me $30 millions, I just had to give him $1 million so he could pay the transfer fees.

It's all because of that name.. herbal..aaaaiiireeeeeee.. wanna buy an herbalaaiiireeeee or an arizer EXTREME Quu?

I'd hit that

I'd say "likes" are a very pure measure. Either the few that bother with the likes will rule or it's gona turn into a like-spam-war. The "majority" won't get their preference in either case. This is because the majority isn't bothered to go here to comment and "like" things. And that doesn't...

I assume a straight faberge like the one I posted should be easier and faster made. Cheaper to produce and thereby not as expensive to buy as a consumer. Then more people would understand the system and be willing to buy the more complex expensive versions.

Anyone? or can I find that on dhgate already? edit: THis person wants $2500 at least for this. WTF!!!

No, I have not tried a pillar with recycler. I still would buy it. so that 242 with the can... you gona have to fill that a lot prbly to get the water to recycler, at that point the matrix is gona be rather hard to pull. I mean that chamber has to be smaller, most likely. Also the can design...

omg yes, please, yes, did I say yes already? I also second on that mouthpiece, maybe a sidecar instead, if that could work somehow..

The thing is though: Most buyers buy these because of the effects. Functionality is of course very important, but at some point the visual design and the effects become more important. Kinda like with cars. Maybe it's stupid, but looks matter a lot to a lot of people. edit: here is a design...

I don't think the torus and klein joints where mentioned, but large pillar is 18 female I'm for the sidecar on the large pillar. I actually believe that could work much better than expected.

@blankrider so are the pillar designs, diffusion pump, ms torus and klein all decided on regarding the design? Or can we make suggestion on some of these?

yeah the china glass also might just give in with the constant heat. I assume they just skip the annealing and is it even borosilicate glass? That's what it should be for that rig right?

Perhaps we should rather aim to make glass that sells really well for now. That way we can gain more traction, maybe get other sellers on board. edit: another idea that might help a lot: we can contact local headshops, present them our design, ask them if they want to get in on the order and...

As long as we stay below a $100 I don't think anyone will complain. Especially for the large pillar. Which I can't wait to see. So is the design for the mini pillar locked in then? What about any of the other planed pieces? I mean is most stuff already decided and locked in by steve or...