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How about taste purity? I'm guessing the Cloud would win, especially the first hit although what you mention regarding getting higher makes me think it is possible that more terpenes are extracted in the HZ vs the EVO.

(deleted) I wouldn't to be honest... unconnected don't you find cumbersome to have to press that button?

Resolute, the Solo is milkshake like. I was talking of the nano when i said juice like. I think the EQ might not have as thick vapor as you'd like. I was an ex-smoker too, i used cigs as well so i understand your point of view which is also why i said that other vapes other than the Plenty...

Yeah, i don't know if the resistance in the nano would be a problem for you, but if the Nano is out of option due to this, forget the Solo then. That is draw resistance, it gets annoying sometimes. The Nano i'm guessing will be like drinking juice from a straw, but someone who has one can chime...

When you say portability, how important is stealth? If it's not very important, look at the Lotus. Great taste and extraction. For the home unit i would stay away from the Plenty... too many downsides for a unit that expensive. Look at the Enano.

My two favorite cities. haha. :D

They are both on the bigger side... but the FF is more stealthy. The Lotus uses a jet lighter so it is less easy to hide

Do you need stealth or not? The Solo has a worst taste than the FF but it has 6x the autonomy. I would go Solo for autonomy alone, FF if taste is what you need. If stealth is not important i would consider the Lotus.

That was a nice shortlist then. The Herborizer is also great for 260€ if you got glass already, but it is prone to breakage since it is all glass but according to owners the flavour is top notch. The EU market is small, i guess they thought i was not worth it. The stores never had good prices...

I understand, i had a DBV to help me transition. In the same price range if you don't want to buy outside the EU, i would get the Herbalaire at this point. The Lotus is a good option as well, although it needs manual technique it is easy to learn and it is cheap. Good luck on your search but i...

Well, how about the Venus then? I think it should be cheaper but it is a very nice whip vaporizer.

yeah.. i would forget about it to be honest and choose a different vape. The Versa looks way better. Or i would order from the Us site. Check kaya.es, they have it... 255€.

yeah... i noticed that 7th floor products have been more and more difficult to find but i didn't know that no stores had it. Have you considered ebay? Maybe there are uk sellers that are authorized.

have you tried paradox or vaporlot? everyonedoesit too.

It seems people are kind of rediscovering the toss-a-nug method. :) What is funny is that one of the first nano videos to show the new product has Andy endorsing this method as the one he uses with the Nano, what goes around comes around. ;) I say this because, although i had already tried...

Yeah, i hardly burn myself, i put it in my finger like a cigar to hit it and between hits... otherwise what you said happens more often. Yeah, actually i think i have a great setup with HI+Lotus+Vaponic. All of them are efficient and tasty. Small and easy to carry around. They have good prices...

I think it would be possible, but i don't know the temperature at which the blue lotus extracts but i think it combusts at a lower temperature, so you need to adjust the heating time accordingly. axakal, any vape becomes more difficult to use once you're stoned. The problem in the Vaponic, for...

Great find mvapes, love that movie!! :D

Exactly! I had a bad experience in taste with my original DaVinci too, i traded for the Solo, but after the HI and the Vaponic i didn't use the Solo anymore. Watch the video by the Vaponic maker, it will teach you everything you need to know. Read the thread, and you will be set! :D

Yeah, many times i used the Vaponic for a quick session over my HI which i don't leave on usually but with the Lotus i don't see the point. Although i must say that i did use my Vaponic on Saturday and i was rewarded with the slight different high that comes with a vape which employs some...