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Surely this material is good for more than 140c :o I guess it really doesn't get that hot on the outer side vs the very center of the oven. That said, when I design things and pick orings and materials, I try to overspec as far as I can in temp resistance. But I guess an ecig company would know...

@Abysmal Vapor No worries at all. I shouldn't get defensive of a company that isn't my own, just like I don't like when people do the opposite when they feel slighted by a company's actions and go on a warpath. Plus, it's good to have opinions from both sides of the issue, as long as they are...

@Abysmal Vapor for someone who is so adept at finding new/upcoming vapes from china, you've certainly made it your top priority to rain negativity in this thread. @SixStringToker sometimes a company drops the ball and sends the mistake to the exact wrong person in the world who should get it...

Thanks!! Really neat to see the different mouthpieces and styles of usage we can have with this little thing. It doesn't look like Delrin/pom, though. The company seems pretty good about using safe materials so far, so I have faith. Thanks for that info!!! I'm glad you are looking at picking...

Oh my god it looks so good. Is the lid still ultem, or does it match? It reminds me of a small film cannister.

@Abysmal Vapor No, we haven't caught up to the civilized world yet. It's all cowboys and capitalism over here. Sorry. Yasss can't wait to get feedback on these new ovens. At least the modularity of the ovens makes updating and user repair a 2 second process.

Oh no, it really saddens and frustrates me that the people here have completely unusable devices and trouble getting sorted by the company. I want everyone to enjoy the dotleaf party right now. Double sucks because I'm over here loving my dot life and they have to watch unsatisfied.

@jbm I'm eager to see which gen you get, and how you like it. Honestly, just use it and I bet you'll forget all the idle chatter here. Coming up on a month with mine, and it still knocks my socks off every time. How long is the "honeymoon phase" where my opinion doesn't matter supposed to last...

Let's give dotmod some time, yall. They literally have an updated oven with major changes inbound, and have mentioned firmware changes. If I was to list the defects in new/existing vaporizers over the last 15 years, we'd be here all day. Here's how I see it: First run ovens from last fall-...

@Easywider Love that use of the 18mm. Does it need orings or is a perfect fit? Oh wow that's a huge difference in shape and draw. The 14mm looks much better. I'm very tempted by the helix 14mm mouthpiece, but worry that it will let too much air in to work properly. Plus I already have this...

LOL "Cracked Ovens" =/= cracked ceramic in the case of the dotleaf, though it might for some vapes. No worries there. Cracked ULTEM outer casing is a concern, though not health wise, and has been discussed at length. Looks like dotmod has already fixed that, though. Regardless, if you are on the...

@Deecee That's dirty. Thanks for the warning on Element. I LOVE helix stuff with vapes. Where on earth did you get a hammer bubbler with a 14mm instead of a bowl? You can wash them. I was worried about debris getting stuck in there forever, since it falls out from the bottom when I brush...

Not in the slightest. The lighter itself doesn't get hot either. Plus, I really like the click on the zippo. It feels purposely designed with a buttery resistance then click, vs my vertigo which seems like an afterthought (though nice lighter). The insert actually made me realize "oh yeah, zippo...

You need to purge it, friend. I have the single, and it's the best thing that ever happened to my dynavap. Fun to fiddle with a zippo for sure, and the single flame gives gargantuan clouds. Lasts me about 4 days of use on a fill, which is enough given it refills in 2 seconds.

No they definitely drilled that out, and I'm lolling over here because I considered getting a plastic cover and doing the same. Then I became chill with sticking to a level and it's not so hard to lift the magnetic cover and change it. The 18mm delrin adapter sticks like it's it's job lol. The...

Can you give more use feedback on this? Glass balls in the airpath always freaked me out on the thought that I'd inhale them. It's unfounded I know. Based on my knowledge that it doesn't take a lot of glass to cool vapor, how good is this really? Do the balls rattle around too much? Is it like...

The balance and proportions of that bubbler with the dotleaf on it look amazing. Eager to hear your thoughts.

Sorry for the terse initial response. That seems like a DOA unit, and I'm really sorry to hear you have it and can't get using your new vape. Could be a faulty temp sensor, or something else. Dotmod CS would have a good record of what they have seen in prerelease and now, and how to counter it...

I intend to run my ovens into the ground to the point that they stop working, then purchase the updated parts. If it's really cosmetic and all that, I should be good for quite some time. Hopefully I can get a discounted price on the new ovens when that time comes. I'm biased as I've worked...

Also, it's bigger and not as aesthetically pleasing as the dotleaf, without the accessory support. The other removeable oven option is the new FURNA, which nobody talks about. Looks cool and I wanted it, but resisted the purchase. I wasn't even in the market for a vape, having just gotten my...