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I can't wait to see my "accurate" estimate.

Damn...so many different choices...I can't keep track of them all!

Dude, it is up to HL what happens, but no one intentionally cut in front of you...it is more like you got lost on the way to the register and everyone else found it first. It just doesn't make sense to anyone that HL will let you go to the front of the line. If they let you get your hopper...

My science background is why I myself also choose the TI version. You are right, there will be differences in weight that will be noticeable to all, same with cooling speed. Sorry, I should been more specific. The part I am talking that have been subjectivity imperceptible are taste and vapor...

Based on subjective reports, the objective improvement is not really detectable by us mere mortals. What do I know though, I haven't tried either...

I've got my order in. I am very excited and will hold me over while I continue my overly long wait with no end in sight for the grasshopper. Though based on @geraldus 's post, maybe I won't need the GH anymore :)

One huge difference between the HI and the GH is that Alan is way more realistic with ship dates than HL.

I could see why people have a problem with that...I personally think it was pretty clever of you. Though I am glad I used the non-referral link posted here though, increases my chances, haha.

I didn't read all this, but I got the gist from the beginning...you say you aren't going to rant...then you rant a ton about how you aren't going to rant...awesome.

So many posts about chargers...it could get it's own thread!

I think the original prototype was like that, but HL couldn't get it working.

Is there any risk to the good battery when doing this?

Very disappointing...osolx26 was one of their bigger advocates. Oh well, I am in it for the long haul at this point.

I don't mind waiting...I just wish they wouldn't provide estimates that they obviously won't be able to meet.

Thank you...been a long time since I checked the faq...when I first ordered I read it several times out of excitement. I will see what other updates it has. Edit: I find it pretty funny that they claim this is due to the popularity of the metal case, since I don't think they have been released...

Cool, thanks for the confirmation...I was talking about the Ti, though based on their site, it doesn't look to be included any more.

I think the sleeve was listed when I ordered last May...

Wait, did HL just decide to not include it in any orders or is this just new orders? The sleeve was listed in the description when I ordered mine...even though now it isn't listed in the description on their site. Seems wrong that they would not include it for people who ordered when it was...

Yes, I don't think anyone was debating this...I think there was some confusion that some people didn't realize these were retail backers, not retail pre-orders. Also, from Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/GrassHopperVape/comments/47eg4s/hopper_labs_facebook_post/ They don't do too many social...

They definitely charge when you order.