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I am trying to be nice about it. Plus I am a believer in, 'never say never' - so I might feel 99% right but I have been surprised too many times to count when I was sure of something. And in the big scheme of things I really want the GH to work out, I want one. I just don't like the way the...

Haha, as long as GHL's does not have the red shirt...everything will be OK. I am totally looking forward to buying a fully functional unit from a local place next year.

Ok, well you can't argue with the folks that have the rose colored glasses on and in the long-run it is probably healthier to be an optimist. So I am going to agree to disagree with you and a few others on this. With all that said I hope the company makes it, because I plan to buy one next...

I am not sure that is the correct portion. It also says: If you are selling goods or services in an online store (not eBay), you may be allowed to presell items but we may hold your money in a reserve account or limit what you can do with your account to reduce the higher risks associated with...

No joke, one of the most important things I learned in the world of business, under promise and over deliver. But again, I find it a little too much of a coincidence that they just happen to keep promising pre-order delivery in the next 30-60 days for the past 420+ days, and the policy of them...

I agree it looks cool and I can imagine the ride has been a tough one for GHL's but the reason I am upset and probably others is their seemingly lack of transparency when it comes to pre-orders.

Go back and read June 2014's update, if you think they just kept going, "whoops we underestimated" for 15 months, that is magical thinking at its best - but hey, good for you for being a glass half full kinda person. I am a bit of a pessimist.

Someone on Reddit seemed to figure this out, somewhere in Paypal terms and condition it states something to the effect of only being able to accept pre-order payments via Paypal when the product is being delivered in the next 60 days. It seems to be the most simple explanation as to why GHL's...

I don't think it is that. It is more of a feeling that we were being taken advantage of, at least that is how I felt. There is no way GHL thought they were going to have mass shipping next month for the past 15 months.

I agree, it was emotion that kept me in the game, wanting to believe the updates. But when I looked at a June 2014 update that said GH's were going out the next month, I realized that I was being taken for a ride.

The only really logical answer is to refund. Because if they get their shit together and start putting out quality and quantity then you can just make a regular order and get it delivered a week later or if they keep messing up then you either would not get one or would be waiting a long time...

I don't know....if they are sending out broken units or ones breaking in the first week or so then it has nothing to be with them being nice IMO.

This is the key for me. It is unfair to keep saying next month, next month. Now that I have seen what was posted on Reddit about Paypal's policy in regards to pre-orders it makes more sense. It seems quite a few people have also had more than one failure. And many failures seem to be after a...

Not sure, maybe this was June 2014? If someone can confirm it I will change it.

I am happy I canceled and I hope it gets someone their GH sooner. I will just wait and hope they are successful and I will order one when all the kinks are out and I can get delivery in a reasonable time. It is pretty funny looking back at some of their updates. June 15th 2013 production...

I think they have been shipping less than 300 a month... This update seems like par-for-the-course. I hope there is no further delays, if things proceed this way then I would imagine all pre-orders will be done by Feb/March 2016, I will hopefully get one before next summer. Still no word on...

If that is the case then WoW, things are going very slow...

Wow, I thought they were only on Nov. backers. If they are on end of Dec. backers that is a major move forward?

That is better than a: sorry we have run out of money due to unforeseen production issues and are attempting to secure third party financing to continue on this journey.

According to my source...the source of the last 16 updates, I think they will say failures are down, shipping is up and mass shipping is coming soon!