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My 30 mm is currently in use but I'll show you pictures later. For now I will show the hollow inner bucket from the 20mm. The walls are about 1 mm in diameter. The wall on the 30mm liger gets thinner behind the heat shield. The heat shield covers this up creating a hollow area out if two pieces...

Yeah dude, it's hollow. The inner bowl of the 20mm vaporbowl screws out. It's super thin. The 20mm insert uses 20mm coil around the thin metal and the insert goes inside. Whats the diameter of the insert like 18mm? No way is there 8mm of titanium between the 20mm coil and the insert. Now look...

Yeah, I guess you are right dabbing directly off of titanium sucks compared to other surfaces. Something to do with the porosity of titanium? The vapor path will get coated and become less porous.

Hmm well, I don't see titanium having the ability to alter the chemical compensation of the vapor but it might heat or cool the vapor differently than glass. I really think we are seeing more of the effect of changing insert temperatures. I like my 20mm, inserts but they will definitely lag...

Well, the specific heat of titanium is 523 (J/kgoC) while quartz is 730. That's less of a difference then I thought the however inner wall is like 0.5mm on the liger so the quartz is 4 times thicker. So the quartz banger would have 5-6 times the thermal barrier of titanium. Then consider that...

Why would the vapor traveling through titanium hurt your lungs? Are you suggesting the temperature is different or that the titanium changes the chemical makeup of the vapor? I cough more if I do a big dab on the 20mm. This is because the insert runs out of heat and vapor is not created fast...

I will be honest though I am curious about opaque quartz. The little air bubbles gives more textured thermal surface which increases nucleation. I'm sure we will see something similar from CCA as time progresses. How many of these 30mm quartz bangers are just rebranded DHGate gavels?

It sounds to me like you are happy with the products but you are not happy with the shipping/communications delays. I understand that. I'd be pissed if I was still waiting and did not already have my set up. It sounds like there are a lot of things going on behind the scenes. We know Josh...

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Exactly. I believe you about the properties of boro, and the shape of the bowl/ screen being more ideal for the flowerpot. I want to get one of them glass flower pots myself. I definitely notice uneven vaporization near the edges and bad flavors from the vapor resin in the screen and neck...

Please forgive me for I am new but have you tried the 30mm liger with the sapphire insert? The flavor is freaking amazing it is nothing like the flowerpot, which let's be real tastes good for the first hit only and does start to develop a bad taste. The only way you are going to get a bad taste...

It certainly is part of the issue. Put a domed titanium screen on top of the hole and then a flat screen on top of that then lower the temp a little and you will get better results. You will still have condensation issues though. Stuff collects on the screens. If you try to pull a dry hit from...

The issue with the flowerpot is the way the screen is held. The bottom has a more narrow diameter than the top and the screen sits on the bottom so there is an area around the sides that does not receive the hot air (thermal dry spot). Furthermore, the titanium bowl on the flowerpot remains cold...

I have the flowerpot, and both 20mm and 30mm Ligers. I don't feel that the titanium parts of the liger negatively affect it in any way. The issue with the flowerpot is the way the screen is held. The bottom has a more narrow diameter than the top and the screen sits on the bottom so there is...

I have both to 20 and 30 mm ligers with sapphire, sic, and obsidian. The 20mm is great for small or tiny dabs however the insert will not hold enough heat to fully vaporize a larger one without increasing the temperature or waiting for the heater to catch up. The 30mm inserts are a lot heavier...