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I vape and dab out of mine all the time. I don't know what others consider frequent cleaning but it is no big deal at all to me, this is quickly becoming one of my favorite pieces. Just use room temp or a little warmer water and you will be golden. Honestly my mobius stereo matrix bubbler is...

Way too many variables for me to say confidently. One mans hit is another mans 10 or 15 hits. I would say somewhere between 25 and 150? Sorry for being no help whatsoever...

Yeah, they are great. I used to have a clear matrix and while i loved it, I would've preferred something with a smaller can, now I got the best of both worlds!! Now for some extensive testing...

So I went ahead and pulled the trigger on the 60B. This is a pretty great piece and you guys are right, it does hit quite a bit different than the regular matrix perc and I feel like I am getting more out of each dab than with my little Dave Goldstein bubbler. Thanks guys.

Thanks guys, wow that ion mouthpiece is definitely smaller, that may take the ion out of the competition...Also my local shop has a 60 B just sitting on the shelf waiting to be loved but if I wait I might be waiting on another matrix for a while. Decisions decisions...

So the mouthpiece is a lot smaller on the ion? In the pictures they look the same, I didn't even think about that, I would not really want a smaller mouthpiece, though i would like slightly smaller volume than the clear. So the stereo is about as good as the regular matrix you would say? How is...

So I sold my clear matrix to a buddy in need a while ago and am dying to replace it with a new Mobius piece. The question is do I go with the Ion matrix bubbler or the 60 mm stemless stereo matrix bubbler? I have not hit either of these pieces but would love to own one, thoughts anyone on these...

I always use crumble from the local dispensary, 25% mix to 75% crumble gives me a nice thick mix that hits great. I am too lazy to winterize and have almost never seen winterized extract at the local dispensary, but it wouldn't hurt to ask your local shop. Enjoy the mix, it could never replace...

That was my next question: How do you guys reclaim from this guy? I have the mini and it seems like putting in as little iso as possible and shaking isn't going to work because of the disk. Any suggestions on getting back that sweet oil the easiest with the least amount of iso?

It isn't way below the quality of the Mobius but it has a bunch of bubbles in the glass in a few spots and doesn't quite have the blow you away quality feel that the Mobius does. I am new to high end glass and foolishly thought that same price=same quality.

Wow... this thread is dead. So I did get a mini DG and I have to say while I do like it I was a little surprised that the quality of the construction is quite a bit below my Mobius for about the same price...

This thread is pretty dead recently... Just got a Mobius awhile ago and am thinking about getting another piece, possibly a DG. Are people still enjoying theirs? I have never tried one but they look awesome.

Mellow Mood in Portland is awesome for Mobius, same price as ALT but no shipping and instant joy!

Just got my Clear Matrix the other day and I gotta say I absolutely love this piece! It is the nicest glass I have ever owned and the moment I hit it I understood the difference... Quick question: is there an optimum water level on the Clear Matrix or is it somewhat a personal preference thing...

Do you (or anyone) know of a reasonably priced battery that will fit a mini protank that will produce more volume of vapor than a cheap atmos optimus x battery? It produces ok but I want more of a fog machine to run through glass.

Indeed. The larger air flow gap must be the culprit as all other variables have not changed...I will have to adjust technique accordingly. It is definitely worth the trade off, the increased airflow makes my cart dramatically more enjoyable to use, while functional the 1st version was way too...

So I got my EO cart back a few weeks ago from repair. Originally it hit good but was like sucking through a very thick milkshake, and it never leaked out of the bottom. Now after I got it back from repair the draw is much easier but it is leaking out of the bottom pretty easily, even after only...

Just ordered the D020 to replace my broken Ben Wilson 6 arm until I can afford a Matrix Ion.

The eye is fine now, a couple hours of severe burning and it was back to normal, my pride on the other hand is still pretty damaged...