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@pakalolo I saw the shipping label. I was not in on conspiracy theory. I was just stating it is odd that the E-bay seller page says detroit and they ship from PA. that is it. All of that is fact stuff.

You got a good point. The seller's locale says Detroit, the units oddly ship from pa. Hmm. Though sm seems straight up. I'd like to think he'd have used these to warranty folks or give people $100 clouds in exchange for his broken one. I'm guessing sm still has some plus units but those are...

FYI the $50 was a good deal. But the other day when I looked regular price went way down.

So I got some Cloud ELB's. Put it in 18m/14m. Whip tubing to bubbler. I used the cyclone. Will try ddave ff later. First impression. Better extraction than my normal elbow pack. Also way less of a restricted draw because you don't have to pack the elb like an elbow pack. Which I'm guessing is...

Well I got my VN ELB's but Cloud isn't here yet. :(. Man those suckers are big. It did give me a chance to try an ELB with my EQ!

Cloud EVo >cloud+>LSV?

Yeah it says it is coming from PA. Tracking says still in PA. I could see leaving it on for 15 or 20 min having a big effect. Seems like the EVO doesn't need this. I know there is a huge difference if I leave my EQ on for 20-30 vs when it says it is up to temp. Why my EQ runs 24/7.

Dang ordered on Monday gets it on tuesday? I order tuesday and shipping says I am getting it next wednesday. He must not have liked my low ball offer.

Lucky you apparently I have to wait to Wed. I think i got super slow shipping from my insulting $75 offer.

Yupp go to fed ex and get a quote. I did for fun a 2 or 3 lb package from me to Amsterdam had $116 as the cheapest shipping option.

@exit what you epoxying?

I am sorry but really? People actually think PAX should pay? My slide froze up and I hit it with a hammer.

I vote here. Following so many threads!!!!!

Fat fingers on the phone!

Epoxy thing? My tracking info says next week. :(.

Wow. I do feel special. You didn't link to an old video you made me one. Seriously thank you man that was awesome. And makes total sense now. Clearly I need to get my cloud lingo down. I thought there was some kind of bamboo in there and i was injecting ISO between the bamboo and the glass...

I actually picked up a f/f to do the ddave mod last night. Need more research sadly I think it will be interrupted by the cloud +. I do want to try with an ssv wand just didn't have one lying around or at the head shops i hit. First go with the f/f and the elbow pack was insanely harsh and...

I just mean when people on FC annoy other FC'ers with questions that if someone spent the next 7 days reading the original cloud thread they might figure out. You know what I mean. I am paranoid too, and also about damaging it. I have never held a cloud, so I don't even really know what you...

Not to be demanding in that annoying FC way. But you aware of any posts in the cloud thread with pics or a video? Or will it be much more straightforward and less scary sounding when i am looking at an actual cloud in my hand? How often do you clean the bamboo?

Personally I think you boys are playing it wrong and better off paying the $100, than waiting. You know supply and demand. Look around the net some legit, FC adored websites are selling the cloud plus for $450.00 Which seems a bit crazy. I know randy at puff it up, is the nicest most legit...