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FYI: for the 4x flame I am using this https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B00QHPN536/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 . It heats up pretty quick, but holds too little gas for my taste. @Used2use quite an elegant product ;) Do you hold the line of jets parallel to the tube or orthogonal?

Of course it is not really essential (like most stuff here on FC). However, IMHO it still tastes way better than the VC (that is currently commissioned to CBD-hemp vaping exclusively) ;)

Single flame leads to more cautious heating and a more delicate taste, I heat without counting and going by instinct. The way I am using it leads to less conduction (I heat mostly below the screen). With the 4-flame torch the behavior is quite different: After heating for ~8 secs, the first draw...

OK, I think I know what you mean. I use the vapocane for such pure convection single hits and the vaponic for the slower session (usually 3-4 cycles). However, the second heat cycle usually gives me very dense clouds (with the slight hint of roast you mentioned). What I find interesting with the...

@Andreaerdna please excuse me if I did not understand correctly: Does this mean you use the Apollo2 for tasty single hit extractions (with small amounts) and the vaponic for sessions where you espcially like the first 2 draws?

OK, I bought a 4-flame lighter and like it so far. I had tried bigger torches before but only single flame. That meant that the heat increment was very local and very strong and I had to be very careful to avoid scorch marks. With a 4-flame standard sized torch, however, the chamber gets heated...

@Andreaerdna well thanks to your post I have to get a 4 flames torch and try that one out too ;)

That's my "problem" with these cheapish vapes: it is only 20-30 € and you get an all glass air path (apart from an SS screen) and I think: "why not?" and then after I like it, I order another one as backup ("it's only 25€"). On the other hand, I do not bother to care about the expensive...

@Dutch-Mic you will love it. I think it is perfect to try if the vaponic suits you with the standard model for ~30€ and then upgrade if you love it (and use the OG as spare parts - I use the casing/silicone end to store/handle my vapocane now, which fits perfectly).

I preferred to use it with the mini-bubbler (with or without water) as it significantly cools the hot vapor. I also found the mouthpiece getting hot fast (also the glass one). The oven is very close to the mouth piece without any heat-sink in place.

@Used2use do you heat the outer tube normally afterwards? What effects does it have?

@RUDE BOY Nice review and thoughts. I am also amazed how a simple wood encasing seems to transform the vape entirely, making it so much more comfortable. One of my favorite perks is to vape the reclaim (every couple of days) after letting it run into the bowl by carefully heating the inner tube...

@PPN did you get it to work? I am currently loving having microdoses (0.01-0.03g) in the vaponic+ hooked up to a bong (with the silicone part of the xmax glass mouth piece - see my photos in an earlier post) and heating the outer glass separately (the wood encasing of the plus adds convenience...

RIP EDIT @Morty: It took me some experience to master the vapocane in order to get great results. As I said before, I shelfed it for some months after playing with it again.

@PPN sorry, I meant magnetizable not magnetic.

@PPN how does it look like, your heater and where did you get it?

Induction needs a magnetic material. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Induction_heating

How about wrapping a magnetic wire around the outer tube?

After having it been sitting on the shelf for some months, I am currently using it regularly again (after my days work is done). Technique is essential here and I am improving it constantly. My preferred method is: Fill it with 0.03-0.06 g of herb Heat the upper part of the vapocane up about...

Ah, the switch is to change the air/gas ratio for controlling temp and flame shape, I think. I usually try to hold the torch rather parallel to the upper part of the vapocane than perpendicular to increase the heated area and prevent spot heating. I will lookout for a torch with adjustable air...