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FROLIC by Limelight Herb
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oh thx then i must have overlooked that.The documentation on the website says the bowl is stainless steel. There's lots of good info over there. I checked out the manual (which is still obviously being worked on) and I love the fact that the exact specifications for all the O-rings are listed. It's the little things...
I had looked at the website on my cell phone yesterday. I agree with you 100% about the little things.
SolidAirrr
Well-Known Member
...the manual says it's aluminium.
*the heater is stainless steel.
DgN'R
I'm No Superman!
What is the grade of stainless steel? Where is the unit manufactured? The device comply with European regulations? Are there tests in approved laboratories or do you do them yourself? Can you tell us more about it?
For me it looks more like a Tinymight with a S&B Mighty cooling unit and an YLL Aerolite/TM design
It's interesting
I wish you all the best @Dejan LimelightHerb!Hey, what do you have against my user manualThe documentation on the website says the bowl is stainless steel. There's lots of good info over there. I checked out the manual (which is still obviously being worked on) and I love the fact that the exact specifications for all the O-rings are listed. It's the little things...
. This took me out actually when I read it because the only thing that's 100% completed on the website is the user manual.A big thanks to both of you, means a lot that people notice these things and that the effort has not been in vain.
Yes, correct. A very good point here actually as I have overlooked pointing these important facts out clearly.
The oven is 6000 series aluminum and it has been hard anodized so it's non-stick and this process tempers the aluminum so the surface becomes really hard, up to 70 rockwells.
This brings me to another thing. For each aspect of this device, I have gone through quite a bit of experimenting before implementing anything, does anyone think this could be interesting material to post and to explain in details. For instance, for the oven, I have tested a number of designs, I think we had 7 or 8 and maybe 4 different finishes.
The heater is 316, the shaft is 304, so same as on vape coils. The unit is manufactured in Serbia (Obviously, not the heater and the chip, battery, USB..., that is made in China because there is no other place on earth where you can make these (I feel bad I have the need to defend this), while for the chip, I could make it here but did not have the infrastructure to do the logic and the vape chip I did make here, I did not have a good time with that).What is the grade of stainless steel? Where is the unit manufactured? The device comply with European regulations? Are there tests in approved laboratories or do you do them yourself? Can you tell us more about it?
For me it looks more like a Tinymight with a S&B Mighty cooling unit and an YLL Aerolite/TM design
It's interesting
Yes, CE, ROHS. Tested ourselves but that obviously should not mean anything to anyone, and also applied for a health test here in Serbia in which tests are done with all the materials to check if they are hazardous or not at the working temperatures and also if they gas off anything, but as everything here, this might take some time.
I anticipated that people might be concerned up to a point with these things, I am, so I decided to use only proven well known materials. So we ended up with having PEEK, stainless steel and hard anodized aluminum, that's it.
PEEK, we had a motive to use another material here because PEEK costs a lot, but you can see it's PEEK, or a simple test confirms this, take a soldering iron and try to melt it.
Stainless steel, this is just how these heaters are, there's no motive for using other materials here, I don't believe there's a cheaper alternative here which would possibly motivate us to use it..
Hard anodized aluminum, a scratch test reveals this was indeed used, again, I don't believe there's a motive to use other material than stated here and you can check online, this is 100% non toxic and inert.
Bottom line is, I have tried to keep this simple and straightforward, so you can trust yourselves.
I will post the lab results once they are in for peace of mind. Sorry this is delayed.
The oven is hard anodized aluminum. Yes, a full metal device might look nice but would heat up more.
We have set up shipping points in the EU, the UK and the US and we will cover all the fees for you. Never done this before as we have shipped directly from Serbia but everything should work well.
P.S. There was a mistake with the price on the website, I apologize about this, just noticed now while updating the product photos. The Frolic is actually priced at 350 EUR, we worked with EUR always so a mistake was made. So this comes out around 20 USD lower than initially stated so 399 USD.
Namekian
Well-Known Member
@Dejan LimelightHerb
Really appreciate all the info about the materials used in production. Are there plans to post a video of it's full extraction capabilities before release? If you show this beast destroy .1 or so in one hit I think it would convince a lot of us to buy in. I know it's what I'm looking for! Thanks again for your time and good luck!
Really appreciate all the info about the materials used in production. Are there plans to post a video of it's full extraction capabilities before release? If you show this beast destroy .1 or so in one hit I think it would convince a lot of us to buy in. I know it's what I'm looking for! Thanks again for your time and good luck!
Mom, this guy is bad influence!
Seriously though, yes. Unboxing video then features and performance. And to answer your question, yes, it will obliterate .1g, I will video this also.
Sorry for being slow with things, stretched out thin at the moment...
I really appreciate the depth and detail and transparency in materials and build information you gave @Dejan LimelightHerb ! It's a topic that matters to a lot of us here, and is a relief to know instead of wonder.
As others have noted, I really appreciate your offering specs on everything, even the orings. Furthermore, the exploded image of components for the Frolic is worth more than a thousand words with regards to repairability, safety, and how everything works. Love love love that!
Seeing the aluminum bowl/oven noted in the manual absolutely baffled me, as that is one place where I wouldn't ever want to see that material. I thought it must be a typo, because you are so purposeful in choosing safe materials and design. I've been puzzling over it since I saw that, and the only thing I could think to make it safe would be to hard anodize it.
"There is no way they'd go to the cost and effort to hard ano that part, though. It must be a typo because no way would they even think about hard anodizing an aluminum part in a thermal extraction device's airpath."
And yet you did! Bravo. I assume that using a debowler with a (smoothed) metal pick is okay? I think the stir tool is peek, so maybe I'll just use that.
I'm satisfying myself on the website's information until release, and looking forward to every bit of further info.
As others have noted, I really appreciate your offering specs on everything, even the orings. Furthermore, the exploded image of components for the Frolic is worth more than a thousand words with regards to repairability, safety, and how everything works. Love love love that!
Seeing the aluminum bowl/oven noted in the manual absolutely baffled me, as that is one place where I wouldn't ever want to see that material. I thought it must be a typo, because you are so purposeful in choosing safe materials and design. I've been puzzling over it since I saw that, and the only thing I could think to make it safe would be to hard anodize it.
"There is no way they'd go to the cost and effort to hard ano that part, though. It must be a typo because no way would they even think about hard anodizing an aluminum part in a thermal extraction device's airpath."
And yet you did! Bravo. I assume that using a debowler with a (smoothed) metal pick is okay? I think the stir tool is peek, so maybe I'll just use that.
I'm satisfying myself on the website's information until release, and looking forward to every bit of further info.
OlfactoryHue
New Member
keep up the good work! excited to see the developments and keep following along
Thanks for the praise, as I said before, means a lot that this effort wasn't in vain. I have added a blog on the website where I plan to go into more details about such things.
We tried stainless steel, but performance was worse, then teflon... but teflon is teflon so no, then ceramic then laser annealing... I am sure I forgot something. Tbh, up until relatively recently, I did not have a good solution for this but then, like what you said, hard anodizing ticked all the boxes and indeed performed exceptionally in all tests and we did quite a few. The "debowler" (I will definitely steal this term, much better than "discharge tool") is stainless steel and it did not damage the bowl. In hindsight, PEEK might have been a better solution for this tool and I will look into that in the future.
2tiki
Well-Known Member
@Dejan LimelightHerb Did the first run sell out, or is it still not for sale yet? I've been checking back all weekend and the website always says, "Out of stock".
I have made a mistake many times in the past by starting sales in the final phase of the project and then got overwhelmed with demand which in turn caused delays and I didn't want to repeat the same mistake so delayed sales a bit to be on the safe side.
In other words, they aren't available for sales yet, but end of the week or next week, we are good to go. I will first announce sales in the Facebook group then here and then Instagram and Facebook pages in that order.
I also still need to do the randomizer for the giveaway here before all that.
regarding your "stretched thin at the moment" comment from earlier, i wish you all the best for this launch. i think you have some eyes on you and i really hope this vape has some impact on the "scene" as it exists at the moment. very closely watching.
SolidAirrr
Well-Known Member
There is no option to dim or turn off the screen, or is there?
Question made me think of the software upgrade debate...
Question made me think of the software upgrade debate...
RustyOldNail
SEARCH for the treasure...
That’s the beauty of “upgradable firmware/software”. Some parts of the device can be improved over time, especially with customer feedback after sales. I didn’t see this mentioned as an included feature on the current product page.
While I have some interest in this device mainly as it seems to incorporate a heater very similar to the Tinymight, at this price point I’ll wait sometime, while carefully reading actual buyers and users feedback. Between my TM2 and Venty, I’m covered pretty well…