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Discontinued 4Mi by Herbaltherm (Milaana NOT reborn!)

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stonedBBer

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alex91 said:
Dude is the Donald Trump of the vaping world, bankrupting every single one of his own businesses. It's a shame, cause his products, when QC is properly done, are outstanding.
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Nahh, DJT at least had some successful business and built a hotel.empire that still exists. Ryan is just straight up a scammer (no refunds for 4mi screams scam to me) offering a 2zm or something bullshit non portable 4hdmi whatever the fuck he names his products is bs.
Good riddance to ryan. Hopefully he never shows up in our space again
 
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bramapoutre

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oddjobold said:
Wood work for 4MI had to be outsourced, as I think it had to be done on a CNC.

Wood work for 2ZM, 4MD is all existing.

I would say zero chance of 4Mi.
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I get that the current design needs specialized tools but I don't understand why you could not make a 2zm like Frankenstein of just a few wood blocks and fat heater for a 21700

This could be have been a really good vape, and more usable that the 2zm (I'l if I ever get one)
 
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popitup

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A fox falls into a well and can’t get out. A goat comes along, and the fox tricks him into jumping in, saying how refreshing the water is. When the goat gets in, the fox uses him to climb out—leaving the goat stuck.
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I used to think it was time management issues, and the stress of life, but I see why the community at large can't ever trust Ryan.

He's a professional victim, who victimizes others instead of getting his life together. "My life is hard, so I had to embezzle pre-order money and file for bankruptcy. Here's an IOU."
 
ADULTSWIM

ADULTSWIM

All Kids Outta The Pool!
bramapoutre said:
I get that the current design needs specialized tools but I don't understand why you could not make a 2zm like Frankenstein of just a few wood blocks and fat heater for a 21700

This could be have been a really good vape, and more usable that the 2zm (I'l if I ever get one)
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He was making the frankenstein monster that you are talking about but didn't have the tools. The single block design of the 4Mi is not the same and it might be a more complex drill then the 2ZM.

I don't think the 4Mi was going to be a more usable/better design than the 2ZM. FYI i have zero faith that a 2ZM or 4MD replacement for prerelease will happen but if it does I think yall will be happy with a 2ZM even tho its not what you wanted.
-I think the 4Mi is in the too big for pockets category. The 4Mi is a bigger portable then the melania so i would not say its very portable, certainly more portable than the 2ZM.
-The 2ZM has a bigger heater running double parallel batteries at 7.4volts. While the 4Mi with a single 21700(any single high yield batt) would still only run at 3.4volts. Bigger heater better clouds.
 
DgN'R

DgN'R

I'm No Superman!
stonedBBer said:
Could someone open source this and make it?
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It's my plan! It's still in the design stage but I'm probably thinking of creating Milaana DIY kits (and technical sources available on git). Why DIY kits? Because certification for a PnP product is expensive.

I like the idea of the Milaana guitar pick as it offers good visual security (you'll be less tempted to throw a Milaana with the guitar pick open into your bag, and you'll take the time to close it and travel safely). Note that this one will no longer use Ryan's HSA mesh technology, but rather a spiral ribbon.

I think about it, but Ryan would have to authorize me to use his design, because, I think it's the best thing to do here!
 
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oddjobold

oddjobold

Vape swap shop
In regards to the HSA heater. In Ryan's last mail he said he would sort us in 9-12 months with a vape of some sort.

So if by end of March 26, and we have heard nothing I would say crack on, HSA is fair game.
 
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deaneaux

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oddjobold said:
In regards to the HSA heater. In Ryan's last mail he said he would sort us in 9-12 months with a vape of some sort.

So if by end of March 26, and we have heard nothing I would say crack on, HSA is fair game.
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Pretty sure he's absolutely full of it, nobody is going to see jack S from him. I paid for a Mi4 and somehow disappeared from all email correspondence/updates and wasn't promised jack chit when he ran away with everyone's money.
 
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PossumMD

Well-Known Member
deaneaux said:
Pretty sure he's absolutely full of it, nobody is going to see jack S from him. I paid for a Mi4 and somehow disappeared from all email correspondence/updates and wasn't promised jack chit when he ran away with everyone's money.
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You're replying to a joke based on his past behaviour, were aware he's full of shit.
 
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oddjobold

oddjobold

Vape swap shop
deaneaux said:
Pretty sure he's absolutely full of it, nobody is going to see jack S from him. I paid for a Mi4 and somehow disappeared from all email correspondence/updates and wasn't promised jack chit when he ran away with everyone's money.
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I also seem to be missed off all communication for the mi4
 
oddjobold,
DeadRabb1t

DeadRabb1t

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Company Rep
Razhumikin said:
He is saying this because Ryan directly stole his idea (glass cap heater) and then probably said this to him afterwards.
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I saw that happen on Instagram live, A quick demo of the glass cap and you could see the comedy lightbulb above Ryan's head as he immediately starts taking about glass dynavaps

He had been raving about how good friendship it was and how special it was and that all took a very quick stage left exit

That was a eye opener for me big time
 
Radwin Bodnic

Radwin Bodnic

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Accessory Maker
Objectively the Vaponic is the common ancestor of both the vapcap and all glass caps subsequent iterations.
Most manufacturers that make variants of this design cite the Vaponic as their source of inspiration.
 
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