Wireless One-Hit Wonder Ball Vape by The Dab Hut and Crossing

greenganja

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This is easily my favorite device I've ever owned. Great value for the price in my opinion. Got this and the tempest from Vgoodiez as my first ball vapes a couple weeks back. Been a happy camper!

Does anyone have any recommendations for a micro dose bowl?
You can purchase the micro dose bowl at Vgoodiez.
 
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RAMMSTEIN

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Hi,

I've also been a WOHS user since today.
I know that a ball vape has a learning curve (my first ball vape).
But currently I find that I get less vapor compared to my Solo 3.
Somehow I also have the feeling that my Solo 3 can handle microdosing better.

I don't have the microdosing adapter for wohs yet, but I've ordered one.
Can someone explain the difference between
diffuser and injector to me..

And which side do I have the injector or diffuser on?
 
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But currently I find that I get less vapor compared to my Solo 3.
How long did you let the ball vape heat before hitting it? What temperature is your PID controller set to? What glass piece are you using with it?
 
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solidsnake02

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Hi,

I've also been a WOHS user since today.
I know that a ball vape has a learning curve (my first ball vape).
But currently I find that I get less vapor compared to my Solo 3.
Somehow I also have the feeling that my Solo 3 can handle microdosing better.

I don't have the microdosing adapter for wohs yet, but I've ordered one.
Can someone explain the difference between
diffuser and injector to me..

And which side do I have the injector or diffuser on?
That certainly doesn't sound like the experience of most people.

Microdosing isn't just a bowl design, but more about the pack size (amount) you put in. This can be done with the included Titanium bowl without a problem. Try it next time with either the injector side or diffuser side. Personally, I like the injector for smaller load sizes since you'll be closer to the material. The injector is the narrow side of the heater. The diffuser is wider and sits over the titanium instead of inside.

Try out just loading less and then check on your temps. Sounds like you're in Europe so maybe 300-300C? Try that and let us know!
 
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RAMMSTEIN

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How long did you let the ball vape heat before hitting it? What temperature is your PID controller set to? What glass piece are you using with it?
I think about 20 minutes.
PID is set to 600F.

I use the 14mm adapter for bong

@solidsnake02 :

Thanks for your explanation..

I don't want to criticize the device because it's my first Ball Vape and I don't know much about it.. But I'll keep trying.

What I noticed, though, is that my AVB is still teas bright despite 600F.
 
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solidsnake02

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I think about 20 minutes.
PID is set to 600F.

I use the 14mm adapter for bong

@solidsnake02 :

Thanks for your explanation..

I don't want to criticize the device because it's my first Ball Vape and I don't know much about it.. But I'll keep trying.

What I noticed, though, is that my AVB is still teas bright despite 600F.
20min should be enough time after turning on the device for the heat to be saturated, but also 14mm will sometimes restrict a bit of airflow preventing extraction from happening as fast. That is highly dependent on the glass you're using and if it's a whip or something like that.

The second thing is that the PID could just need you to bump the temps. It matters much less what your PID is set to than what the heat inside the wohw heater. Don't think 600f = 600f. It's more like 400-450ish inside where the gems are. These gems store the heat and the faster/slower you pull through your piece will effect how it extracts. I'd say just bump your temps up some more. I personally use 615f and enjoy it a lot. Sometimes these PIDs can simply have a bit of variance and finding what's right for you might be a bit different from what others have experienced.
 

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Interesting! I'm not sure what the issue is there. I would expect to see a lot more vapor than with the solo3, even if you are still working on your draw technique. If you do work out what the issue is I would love to know! I don't have this ball vape, but I have many others. I would assume this one would be minimally as capable as most.

It's possible your coil could be bad. I have seen occasionally that a brand new coil will be defective and the thermocouple is reading incorrectly. Another option is a misconfigured PID controller.

You don't need to share it here, but you might try taking a video of each on the same glass piece side by side and see if you can spot any issue.
 

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would expect to see a lot more vapor than with the solo3

@RAMMSTEIN S3 is making a lot of that vapor for you with conduction, with this vape you are completely relying on your inhale to create the vapor with convection, that could be another big difference for you along with the other variables (like temp, how you load)
 

RAMMSTEIN

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here are 2 videos... first video Solo 3 second Ball Vape Solo 3 On Demand Mode Level 4 (210c) Ball Vape 630f a good indicator of vapor development is the glass stem on the right... with Solo 3, after 15 seconds of pulling, you can no longer see it. with Ball Vape, everything is still pretty clear. what I notice with Ball Vape is that it feels very light when pulling... as if I'm pulling too much air... but everything is tight... with Solo 3, the pull is a bit tighter and not as open... but there is more vapor. I don't think it's a defect, but I'm making a mistake somewhere :)
 
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Shit Snacks

Milaana. Lana. LANA. LANAAAA! (TM2/TP80/BAK/FW9)

here are 2 videos... first video Solo 3 second Ball Vape Solo 3 On Demand Mode Level 4 (210c) Ball Vape 630f a good indicator of vapor development is the glass stem on the right... with Solo 3, after 15 seconds of pulling, you can no longer see it. with Ball Vape, everything is still pretty clear. what I notice with Ball Vape is that it feels very light when pulling... as if I'm pulling too much air... but everything is tight... with Solo 3, the pull is a bit tighter and not as open... but there is more vapor. I don't think it's a defect, but I'm making a mistake somewhere :)

I suggest stop using the solo for a while, focus on trying to use this only, to get the most out of it, you literally just got it and it is totally different, plus so many variables
 

RAMMSTEIN

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oohhh I definitely don't want to badmouth "wohw".. I say myself that I'm a noob and have to learn it :)
The mistake is mine or my expectations..
But since I want to learn quickly, I'm asking here where my mistakes lie.
I don't know if it's maybe because of the amount I put in... Because I usually have 0.15 to 0.2g in.
My microdosing stem is coming tomorrow and maybe it will get better
 
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solidsnake02

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oohhh I definitely don't want to badmouth "wohw".. I say myself that I'm a noob and have to learn it :)
The mistake is mine or my expectations..
But since I want to learn quickly, I'm asking here where my mistakes lie.
I don't know if it's maybe because of the amount I put in... Because I usually have 0.15 to 0.2g in.
My microdosing stem is coming tomorrow and maybe it will get better
The amount you're packing is fine. That shouldn't be too much at all. If you have the scoop, I always suggest one scoop maybe an overfull one. That's enough to get a quick one-hit extraction. Based on your videos, it definitely looks like something is off with your coil. You should be getting a lot of milk at 630f on the diffuser or the injector side (not sure which you're using since the video is dark and my eyes are bad!). Maybe your draw speed is too light too since you're used to the solo and longer extractions?

Hard to narrow in on anything more than heat and draw speed being the culprit. Heat issue potentially being a bad PID or coil. It should be putting out a lot more vapor for you without a doubt.
 

RAMMSTEIN

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everything is fine..I never assumed that there was something wrong with my device... if you're still a noob yourself, you should look for the error in yourself ;) I think I've got the trick now... the tip that I should forget about the solo3 was worth its weight in gold.. with the solo 3 I always pulled very, very slowly and deeply to get dense vapor. but with that I got little vapor with the ball vape.. now I've done it completely differently, I pull faster.. not like crazy.. but significantly more than with the solo 3. now a lot of vapor comes out
 

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everything is fine..I never assumed that there was something wrong with my device... if you're still a noob yourself, you should look for the error in yourself ;) I think I've got the trick now... the tip that I should forget about the solo3 was worth its weight in gold.. with the solo 3 I always pulled very, very slowly and deeply to get dense vapor. but with that I got little vapor with the ball vape.. now I've done it completely differently, I pull faster.. not like crazy.. but significantly more than with the solo 3. now a lot of vapor comes out
Glad you got it figured out! I also prefer a slow draw, some ball vapes accommodate better than others. But it's easier to pull faster than to try every one!
 

RAMMSTEIN

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My microdosing stem arrived yesterday and I'm delighted. 0.07 to 0.9 fit in it... but you can put the sieve a little deeper in to get more in. I usually get 0.1g in it... "wowh" is also great for microdosing... it just gets everything out. My Solo 3 has been lying around ever since I got my Ball Vape... but I won't sell it because it's always good to have a spare... or when I'm on the go :)
 
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