Abele Rizieri Ferrari
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I think it's a good sign, it means it has gained attention of vapers with high standards.
The Angus Halogen Vape by YLL Vape
- Thread starter YLLVAPE OFFICAL
- Start date
3M9495-300LSE
Zuhdj
Charles Mingus
It's checks out! Who's cooling unit is getting up to 200 degrees F (that'd be waaaay too hot to touch at all)
Sorry the pic is blurry asf. You'll have to click on it to see the chart
this is our concern for the international shipping policy. ecig goods get impounded by the customs sometimes. I need to be responsible for my retailers, their order gets stuck at the custom, which would be big loss for both of us. Also the ecig products with replaceable battery (not built in battery) get limitations on the flights, it will also affect the shipping from retailers to the customers. and you can see there are many products including replaceable batteries. They might already have many batteries at home. 18650 batteries are pretty conventional, and easy to buy it. also for YLLVAPE future products, they will not have batteries included as well.
See my previous post #863. Other well respected and highly reputable vaporizer manufacturers use the same 3M sticker very near the air path. I’m not concerned. Heck, if you live in a big city you breath in more bad shit every breath you take when you’re outside. IMO
Dr. G
Old Resident
Thank you for the reply...I know batteries are easy to buy.
I am just saying that you are the only company that I have purchased a vape from that did not include a battery. These other companies must have been in the same situation and they did it.
Some of your clients...like myself are ill. The less we need to worry about the better. It seems you are worried about your retailers...anyway, I ordered batteries. My love affair with the Angus has not started yet.
Congratulations on your new product. Much luck with it...and wishing you all the best.
cuz I do not check FC a lot, sometimes i am not able to check every post on angus thread. i had the plan to take the internal picture since last week, but not get time. i 100% understand the concerns from you guys. Criticism is more what i need for the process of learning better and improve. As you know,YLLVAPE is a Chinese manufacturer, no access to any herb here. ( Good envious of your). this is why I focus more on posts on FC, this is the great platform for me, as a Chinese maker to know what you guys prefer, and what kind of good product would be like. This is all Chinese vaporizers manufacturers are supposed to do. FC is a great place for you to share and discuss, also a great place for me to gather useful information. I am not trying to be quiet, but would like to talk more. mike@yllvape.com. or yllvape Instagram are better for me if anyone has any question or concern. haha. Angus is a new product in the market, and has some flaws for sure. but improving in learning is good, isn't?
Thanks for your time and honesty.
Dr. G
Old Resident
Healthy Vaping is the concern here regardless where you are from. We should only settle for the highest standards. Also, I do not think we should just settle for word of mouth...I appreciate the investigation of any vape. They should be investigated up the ass. This is a health hazzard if you don't. So, to all manufacturers...once you start putting your product out there it will be micro looked at. The vape community is a concerned community.
International shipping is already complicated enough without giving third parties (customs, airline, etc.) more excuses for delaying shipments. If the batteries WERE included, the cost of those plus additional shipping expense for the extra weight would cause the retail price of the product to rise accordingly.
It's more like not getting fuel, the bulb would be the engine in this case. As it is, the whole "batteries not included" is a meme as old as batteries themselves...
RAG
Well-Known Member
Big credit to the manufacuter @YLLVAPE OFFICAL for disclosing these details, my respect for this brand instantly got raised. Checking the details on 3M9495-300LSE and this is what I found (and this can be verified by anyone that can use google)
Relative High Temperature
Operating Ranges:
Long Term (days, weeks) 200°F (93°C)
Short Term (minutes, hours) 300°F (149°C)
Relative Solvent Resistance: Very Good
How hot does it get inside the chamber I wonder tbh, we are drawing in vapor that 220c as a max, what temperature is the vapour once i reaches the cu? anyone have thermal camera and could check?
I don't mean to sound dismissive of your concern: I guess I just don't recognize the same level of inconvenience as you; everybody will gauge this in terms of how it impacts their personal circumstances. Most of my customers just order a pair (ot two) of P28A's when they order their Angus...everything is delivered to them at once that way, car and engine.
Zuhdj
Charles Mingus
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Side note, you don't need to fill the chamber. It'll work even with a third of it filled
Edit: the magnets were body temp after my three consecutive bowls
When a solid is at around 140f-150f it is too hot to hold a finger on for any amount of time (it's how I measure temp when steaming milk for espresso). The cooling unit feels warm after 3 bowls. I'd be surprised if it gets over 120f but this is no scientific analysis. Just observations and prior knowledge.Big credit to the manufacuter @YLLVAPE OFFICAL for disclosing these details, my respect for this brand instantly got raised. Checking the details on 3M9495-300LSE and this is what I found (and this can be verified by anyone that can use google)
Relative High Temperature
Operating Ranges:
Long Term (days, weeks) 200°F (93°C)
Short Term (minutes, hours) 300°F (149°C)
Relative Solvent Resistance: Very Good
How hot does it get inside the chamber I wonder tbh, we are drawing in vapor that 220c as a max, what temperature is the vapour once i reaches the cu? anyone have thermal camera and could check?
Side note, you don't need to fill the chamber. It'll work even with a third of it filled
Edit: the magnets were body temp after my three consecutive bowls
666Honeybadger
Unknown member
While i agree with this statement, it's one of those truths that will shuffle somewhat thru time... I mean: once electric cars become standard, 'batteries included' should become the norm...
Dr. G
Old Resident
seedy53
Well-Known Member
new bad-ass 18650 battery is out now, p28B 40amp
Dr. G
Old Resident
I will take note. Good advice. Much appreciated since I am new to this experience...cheers.
1800
Well-Known Member
I can't speak for vapes but no-battery-included is becoming quite a standard practice with electronic products within the EU.
Dr. G
Old Resident
Good to know because I have purchased all of my vapes...lots of them including the TM1 and 2 and they all included batteries...so, my experience again. Learning everyday.
But that is measuring against the thermal properties of the medical grade plastic which has extremely low thermal capacity.
This says nothing about what heat pressure the sticker is coming under.
Maybe, maybe not. But trying to understand why YLL is being held to this degree of scrutiny, distrust and accusations. Thus the question mark. This is far beyond anything I have ever seen for a vape here and it strikes me as rude and distrustful of this manufacturer. And yes I have followed Angus & TM threads.
Why is YLL specifically being subjected to this site? What brand 3M tape? The "counterfeit" CE...
Or maybe the Angus just attracted the paranoid FC users so distrustful and disrespectful of manufacturers that they treat YLL this way, and we can expect them to give the same treatment to the next hot & exciting US-made vape.
EDIT: case in point as I was typing this:
I've seen this for every vape I've researched on FB. This one seems more protracted, but that's simply because not all safety concerns had been tackled yet.
John the Anvil creator is a white Canadian. He received the same grilling about safety concerns, then received grilling about how he was handling communications, then he received grilling about how he publicly threw shade at Dynavap. All of it was warranted.
People don't care about race here, they care about their vapes being safe.
Btw had no idea Angus creator was Chinese. Thought China was just the manufacturing locale.
This is a great start, but I am wondering specifically about the PCB, thermosensor, wires and other electronics. Can you please include these in your photo? Separate photos of those is fine.
I appreciate your help with this. I assume we will get other members opening theirs too as this is sure to be a popular new vape. Having this honest info straight from the maker is always a great sign.
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