Can I get your recommendation for my next 2021 vape purchase?

The tafee bowle hits all kinds of red flags for me, the website looks like a facebook commercial for christs sake. Combining a glass of water with a vaporizer seems like the idea of 30 execs trying to think up some way to desperately distinguish their product.

Its designed by a company that designs sex toys, if I wasnt convinced I would think their whole online presentation is some kind of nuoveau-experimental art-critique of overly aesthetic capitalism, but alas it seems to be a real product...

Vapcap is very good for microdosing

You're getting too many tafee bowl and log recommendations for the use case you describe.

I agree with you that the Bowle is goofy looking and I don't see the appeal of a $300 acrylic cup vape with four preset temps and an internal battery that even the biggest fans agree is too small.

A log vape seems an even dumber option to me: they take fifteen minutes to heat up and are better for folks who medicate throughout the day.

As usual, I agree with @Shit Snacks and would second his recommendation for the Tinymight. It's truly portable (unlike the Bowle), very consistent, and dead simple with just a button and a little dial. The on demand convection hits are very impressive for a device that size and you can just hold the button down at your preferred temp and get one or two lovely hits with only five seconds of waiting for it to heat up. And importantly, you can just buy one and receive it in a week or two. It's foolishness to recommend a Nomad to a lightweight looking to upgrade as the wait time is over 18 months.

Last thing I'll say is that folks are are so eager to not wait that week or two you can sell a used Tinymight for the full new price including shipping in the unlikely event that you don't love it.

I use my Tinymight with a custom j-hook for the improved flavor of an all glass vapor path.

wdqwnfouqwoufq said:

The tafee bowle hits all kinds of red flags for me, the website looks like a facebook commercial for christs sake. Combining a glass of water with a vaporizer seems like the idea of 30 execs trying to think up some way to desperately distinguish their product.

Its designed by a company that designs sex toys, if I wasnt convinced I would think their whole online presentation is some kind of nuoveau-experimental art-critique of overly aesthetic capitalism, but alas it seems to be a real product...

Vapcap is very good for microdosing

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Dig a little deeper and you will see that the Bowle has a great pedigree in terms of it's design team on the vape side (and it shows in use). As for the website, they are trying to get around vape ban related issues in terms of that marketing. And prob targeting a more casual crowd than this forum attracts.

And when you hold it in your hand it is 100% a pleasure to use for me. Enjoy the cup more than I ever imagined. But most crucially the vape quality is amazing. Big cool hits. You aren't going to get cooler hits without a WPA due to the brilliant design of the stem.

I reach for it over my Firewood7 (that is a great pocketable option tho). And over my Sticky Brick.

Curious. Anyone here speaking negatively of the Bowle actually try or own one?
Making a subtle point here.

Log vape would work well if you don’t mind going to the same wall outlet. 15 minute wait time is irrelevant if you don’t mind/trust leaving the unit on 24/7 as I’ve done in the past for months on end.

wdqwnfouqwoufq said:

The tafee bowle hits all kinds of red flags for me, the website looks like a facebook commercial for christs sake. Combining a glass of water with a vaporizer seems like the idea of 30 execs trying to think up some way to desperately distinguish their product.

Its designed by a company that designs sex toys, if I wasnt convinced I would think their whole online presentation is some kind of nuoveau-experimental art-critique of overly aesthetic capitalism, but alas it seems to be a real product...

Vapcap is very good for microdosing

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Yeah, the cup is confusing unless you give it a try – it seems like you have not yet, but attacking a website design in lack of real experience instead is a weird way of having an opinion... Also, what's wrong with sex toys? Also: sex toys??? Maybe have a look at the →„about us“-section again.

I don't want to defend the Tafées approach, it's not my style either, but it is a very capable device. You might have a different opinion, but only *after* you tried it yourself.

wdqwnfouqwoufq said:

Its designed by a company that designs sex toys, if I wasnt convinced I would think their whole online presentation is some kind of nuoveau-experimental art-critique of overly aesthetic capitalism, but alas it seems to be a real product...

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You realize that sex toys are real products that are designed by real industrial design firms, correct? I have no idea how to read your red-flag comment and have it make any sense without translating it to “ewww, girl stuff is stupid/bad/gross”. People find the most bizarre things to obsess over with the TB.

I get it, its probably a very nice product. But the whole appearance just repels me, I am not quite sure why, but I shudder at the thought of the words:

Bowle® is Class
Bowle® is with You
Bowle® is Tasteful
Bowle® is Now

its a goddamm vaporizer to comsume cannabis, I would love to not have every single product I could potentially buy be advertised as a LIFESTYLE. that just eggs me on.

I am sure they did some splendid work on that thing, but the water glass hit me as nothing but a very absurd gimmick (although I do see the practicality of Water combined with Weed). 400 Bucks is another reason for me to stay faaar away from that.

I wonder who and how much was invested in this company for them to be able to afford all this R&D plus the professional babble on their website.


'Design 1st are the design pioneers behind We-Vibe, the world's fastest selling adult massager and multiple Health Canada approved medical devices.'

thats just so fucking funny to me. Obviously they tried very hard to come up with a hell of a lot of nice text, but I just cant take that seriously

I do own sex toys btw. I just find all the bragging on their website slightly repelling and very absurd.


Can anyone who tried the tafee tell me, doesn't the water get warm?

wdqwnfouqwoufq said:

I get it, its probably a very nice product. But the whole appearance just repels me, I am not quite sure why, but I shudder at the thought of the words:

Bowle® is Class
Bowle® is with You
Bowle® is Tasteful
Bowle® is Now

its a goddamm vaporizer to comsume cannabis, I would love to not have every single product I could potentially buy be advertised as a LIFESTYLE. that just eggs me on.

I am sure they did some splendid work on that thing, but the water glass hit me as nothing but a very absurd gimmick (although I do see the practicality of Water combined with Weed). 400 Bucks is another reason for me to stay faaar away from that.

I wonder who and how much was invested in this company for them to be able to afford all this R&D plus the professional babble on their website.


'Design 1st are the design pioneers behind We-Vibe, the world's fastest selling adult massager and multiple Health Canada approved medical devices.'

thats just so fucking funny to me. Obviously they tried very hard to come up with a hell of a lot of nice text, but I just cant take that seriously

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The We-Vibe is a kick ass addition to one’s sex life! Had one gifted to us a long time ago from a friend who sells sex toys on the side. Again, good product that someone is shitting on without first trying/owing one.

wdqwnfouqwoufq said:

I just find all the bragging on their website slightly repelling.

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Oh, that’s the issue? Give me a couple hours, I’m sure there’s a vape manufacturer site out there somewhere that’s really down on themselves and has prominent pages entitled “unresolved issues that will keep you up at night” and “here’s our staff, even if they’re not very good at their jobs”.

I know you got a lot of recommendations for the Bowlé. I would say the tiny might would be a better all around vape. I know the customer service with TM was bad in the beginning but in recent months they are on top of things. So I don't hesitate recommending them. It's my favorite portable vape bar none. Best flavor, effects, efficiency and just pure enjoyable experience from any vape I've tried.

@johnnyCanuck I have treated my Bowlé better than most any other vape I've owned. The paint it chipping off the plastic, the cup is cracking too, and yesterday it stopped working and charging all together. When it works it's damn good, but it often doesn't work.

It's almost like my TM but the TM is easier to load and unload as well as working every time I pick it up. Low battery? Change it out. Not so with the Bowlé, you'll have to change that witch for a while.
The Bowlé is the "flavor of the moment", the hubbabaloo will die down soon enough.

Most importantly. Think about using each vape. What it will be like try to imagine any sore points of loading and unloading your vape. Batteries, what do you do if it's dead? Try to think about the ownership experience, the best vapes will become paperweights if you don't like using it.

Hey all, so up to now I have used the Ariser (no longer own that) .... Which Arizer model? It will help to know if it was their desktop or which portable when making a suggestion.

I'm more of a hit and go person. I don't do long sessions because I'm a bit of a lightweight when it comes to cannabis. 1 or 2 hits and I'm good. .... Are you doing this on the go or at home?

I try as much as I can to avoid plastic devices even though the firefly2 has a plastic mouthpiece, the rest is ceramic and glass. .... Vapes that I use that I consider air path clean. MFLB wood with metal screen. Flip Brick wood, metal screen butane powered. ELEV8R desktops (Buddha, LSV, Surfer) ceramic cartridge heater, glass air path, house current powered. E-Nano, ceramic cartridge heater sleeved in metal, glass stem air path, house current powered.

I think I am looking for a microdosing / on demand vape. .... I steer away from the micro label because the load sizes varies so much from user to user. My primary small load size vape (.03 g range) is an E-Nano and when loaded in that range it functions as an on demand/one hitter vape. That said, with a little tinkering many large capacities can run small loads, in my case the ELEV8R desktops are examples.

BestBuds said:

I know you got a lot of recommendations for the Bowlé. I would say the tiny might would be a better all around vape. I know the customer service with TM was bad in the beginning but in recent months they are on top of things. So I don't hesitate recommending them. It's my favorite portable vape bar none. Best flavor, effects, efficiency and just pure enjoyable experience from any vape I've tried.

@johnnyCanuck I have treated my Bowlé better than most any other vape I've owned. The paint it chipping off the plastic, the cup is cracking too, and yesterday it stopped working and charging all together. When it works it's damn good, but it often doesn't work.

It's almost like my TM but the TM is easier to load and unload as well as working every time I pick it up. Low battery? Change it out. Not so with the Bowlé, you'll have to change that witch for a while.
The Bowlé is the "flavor of the moment", the hubbabaloo will die down soon enough.

Most importantly. Think about using each vape. What it will be like try to imagine any sore points of loading and unloading your vape. Batteries, what do you do if it's dead? Try to think about the ownership experience, the best vapes will become paperweights if you don't like using it.

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I disagree that it’s the “flavor of the moment” but totally respect what you’re saying.
The TM, as an example, still chugging along despite all the reliability and customer service issues when it first came out. Creator historically has a bad rep with a previous vape that is no longer in the market. Yet, TM recently is getting the cred now given time.

wdqwnfouqwoufq said:

its a goddamm vaporizer to comsume cannabis, I would love to not have every single product I could potentially buy be advertised as a LIFESTYLE. that just eggs me on.

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Yeah, Dynavap is way better in not creating a whole universe around their devices – would be funny if they'd proclaim some kind of „Dynaverse“ or stuff, though. :-)

bossman said:

A log vape seems an even dumber option to me: they take fifteen minutes to heat up and are better for folks who medicate throughout the day.

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The recommendation was based on leaving the eNano plugged in, even better if you also leave the bowl on the heater, you can load .05g into a hot bowl anytime and get a full on demand hit in an instant.

wdqwnfouqwoufq said:

I do own sex toys btw. I just find all the bragging on their website slightly repelling and very absurd.


Can anyone who tried the tafee tell me, does the water get warm?

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Siebter said:

Yeah, Dynavap is way better in not creating a whole universe around their devices – would be funny if they'd proclaim some kind of „Dynaverse“ or stuff, though. :-)

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loath the writing on that website with a passion, why does everything have to start with dyna??? There are things more important than brand recognition.

BUT the product is pretty dammn nice, i must admit, also one of the cheapest vapes one can buy with a small chamber too, which is why I recommended it. Also its pretty much indestructable compared to almost anything else

You're getting too many tafee bowl and log recommendations for the use case you describe.

I agree with you that the Bowle is goofy looking and I don't see the appeal of a $300 acrylic cup vape with four preset temps and an internal battery that even the biggest fans agree is too small.

A log vape seems an even dumber option to me: they take fifteen minutes to heat up and are better for folks who medicate throughout the day.

As usual, I agree with @Shit Snacks and would second his recommendation for the Tinymight. It's truly portable (unlike the Bowle), very consistent, and dead simple with just a button and a little dial. The on demand convection hits are very impressive for a device that size and you can just hold the button down at your preferred temp and get one or two lovely hits with only five seconds of waiting for it to heat up. And importantly, you can just buy one and receive it in a week or two. It's foolishness to recommend a Nomad to a lightweight looking to upgrade as the wait time is over 18 months.

Last thing I'll say is that folks are are so eager to not wait that week or two you can sell a used Tinymight for the full new price including shipping in the unlikely event that you don't love it.

I use my Tinymight with a custom j-hook for the improved flavor of an all glass vapor path.

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I'm not OP but totally going to order one of these now. Do you consider any of the accessories to be essential? What's the deal with the beeswax? Need that?

wdqwnfouqwoufq said:

BUT the product is pretty dammn nice, i must admit, also one of the cheapest vapes one can buy with a small chamber too, which is why I recommended it.

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I do too, it's my favourite and most used device. Despite the strong lifestyle-esque approach they implement in their website and elsewhere, including pictures of people holding a DV who apparently five minutes ago found out what vaping is. :-)

wdqwnfouqwoufq said:

I get it, its probably a very nice product. But the whole appearance just repels me, I am not quite sure why, but I shudder at the thought of the words:


its a goddamm vaporizer to comsume cannabis, I would love to not have every single product I could potentially buy be advertised as a LIFESTYLE. that just eggs me on.

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You are aware of the Vape Mail ban correct? It has caused some folks to close up shop (Lotus, Terp Torch) or go on hiatus (Fluxer). And others have taken various steps to avoid the term vape or give the appearance of multiple uses for their devices. Maybe Tafee went a bit far for your taste, but everyone is trying to figure this out with a range of responses. Dynavap is proposing using the term TED (stands for Terpene Extraction Devices IIRC) for thier stuff.

As for the stem heating up liquid, the vapor does not heat it enough to impact the liquid in the cup. Those stems have some really well thought out heat sinks internally. On the other hand, the mass of liquid in a very cold cup can slightly chill the vapor in the stem through the temp exchange from the cup.

To my mind the main downsides of Bowle after considerable use:

• Battery
  • shorter life than I'd like but not so bad as to be a deal breaker for an around the house device
  • not swappable, a great feature not to be overlooked on FW7 and TInyMight
• Charging
  • Wish charging port wasn't covered with cup attached
  • Wish it was USB-C instead of micro-USB
• Risks from being early adopter
  • This device and the company have not been around long, so other issues may emerge over time, such as what @BestBuds described.
  • Also means fewer accessories until manutacturer or aftermarket is able to roll them out.

And yes, TinyMight and Firewood 7 are great options. If not for customer service issues I've seen I would likely have bought a TinyMight. And as @BestBuds mentioned, that CS seems to be getting better. And the FW7 feels great in my pocket. Though note that it needs an external battery charger (a tradeoff for the remarkable small size of a device using 18650s I'd guess).

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I'm not OP but totally going to order one of these now. Do you consider any of the accessories to be essential? What's the deal with the beeswax? Need that?

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There is an extensive TinyMight thread, suggest you look there. Many Bowle questions can also be answered in that considerable thread.

Siebter said:

I do too, it's my favourite and most used device. Despite the strong lifestyle-esque approach they implement in their website and elsewhere, including pictures of people holding a DV who apparently five minutes ago found out what vaping is. :-)

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ugh, dont get me started on those instagram shots of people suckling their metal straw.

I try to stay away from their online presence. Ich versteh auch nicht wie man es im 21 Jh. nicht schaffen kann vernüftigen Versand nach irgendwo außer NA anzubieten, aber dann besteht wenigstens kein Grund zum Besuch der Website

Like it was said above, I'd go either Tinymight or Dynavap VapCap.

Tinymight is easy to use, being all analog with haptic feedback makes it truly intuitive to use. It has swappable batteries, and can be use both like a real portable with original stem + cooling unit, or with adapter + J-Hook for more flavour and pure glass path. And it can hit hard. Very hard. Great on demand device, at temp in a few sec. And made in Europe (in Finland to be precise) so you know why it's expensive.

IMHO, VapCap is even better when it comes to microdosing. Titanium tip set on half dose gives significant hits with 0.05g. But if you want to take only one draw now and then, Tinymight is the ticket if you can afford one. VapCap will take a bit more time to use, and requests both hands, except if you choose to buy an induction heater with (so many choices !!!). I think it hits a bit less hard too (or at least, vapour gets hotter faster so it kind of limits your draws).

Never tried the Bowle, won't talk about how it performs, which seems great BTW. If it helps to choose, here a couple of reasons why I won't buy one. On a purely subjective plan, I find this thing as sexy as a food mixer. On a more objective plan, non swappable batteries suck and it's really expensive considering it's a Made In China device (not that it makes it bad, but being more expensive than a Made In Finland Tinymight makes me think I pay a lot for a design I don't care about and that the company makes big profits with my money). On a paranoid plan, I don't want aluminum in my vapour path, but it comes to me.

To put an end to this long post, I would add the Tetra P80 which is my fav, but it's at least as expensive as the TM (but not as much as the Bowle), less portable too and last but not least, it's not easy to get one, to make an understatement...

doctapeppa said:

I'm not OP but totally going to order one of these now. Do you consider any of the accessories to be essential? What's the deal with the beeswax? Need that?

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I ordered no accessories with mine since I use my upside-down Splinter stem as a WPA for j-hook use. I do have some beeswax that came with a vapcap kit years ago and I do very occasionally condition all my wooden vapes. I've never regretted not adding a long stem, o-rings, etc. For me the best Tinymight hits are with a fancy custom j-hook like the ones in that pic so I only use the short stem when I take the Tinymight out of the house. Flavor suffers noticeably with the stainless steel cooling unit in the air path and it clogs up ten times quicker than the WPA and j-hook combo.

The Tinymight is so easy to like. The oak body might smell of seaweed a bit at first but it goes away before too long.

doctapeppa said:

I'm not OP but totally going to order one of these now. Do you consider any of the accessories to be essential? What's the deal with the beeswax? Need that?

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I consider the water adapter essential you won't regret it, hits better than beeswax

gordontreeman said:

For your use case if you want an at home option I'd also agree with the log suggestions. I fill my sidecar matrix perc a surprising number of times out of less than a full dynavap cap with my Woodscents, which is ostensibly .1g. I bet the enano, HI, or UD would work just as well but I've not used those.

For portable use case I was looking for similar things (low tolerance, on demand, adjustable temps) and also decided on TM. The Bowle might be cool if you just want something around the house, but you should calibrate your definition of "portable" before thinking its a portable vape. Portable as in you can carry it from room to room or take it along in the car on a trip, absolutely. Portable as in you can easily take it in a walk? Not really. Maybe if you bring along a backpack, I guess.

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Way too many abbreviations. HI, UD? Whats all of that LOL Hey I checked out wood scents that looks kind of like the dynovape with an induction heater. Is that correct?