DaVinci IQ2

cpl5938 said:

For me, the pods are great. I do maybe one a day and usually fill 5 or 6 at a time. The unit stays so much cleaner. It took a while to get my techniques down but now I think the IQ2 is great. I even prefer it to my Firefly 2+ because I spend less time cleaning overall and the quality of hits etc is the same. Any odor is much less too.

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Curious if you do anything special with the Pods? I want them to work but I'm at a loss as to why they haven't for me.

Breaking Bud said:

I agree with the Pod comment. I can't get a hit from it. I do love the glass spacer though. I often use it without the pearl. I recently removed the flavor chamber because I wasn't using it and I find the vapor is a bit more plentiful without the extra resistance.

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“The Flavor chamber creates a seal between the oven and the mouthpiece and acts as the air path of the vaporizer. When it is removed there are additional air gaps that are created and actually decrease vapor production. It also removes the air path from the vaporizer so your vapor leaves a residue on the inside of your vaporizer.l
— DaVinci Vaporizers

I read one user ran without the Flavor Chamber, IQ eventually stopped working, upon opening the device up, there was resin all over the inside of the supposedly isolated section. Also since your vapor path is NO longer going through the Zirconium FC, it’s now passing over whatever the inside of the devices metal is, aluminum, steel?

It’s your device, just added this in case you didn’t consider the possible side effects of removing the FC.

Topic also mentioned here by a Davinci rep:

https://www.reddit.com/r/davincivaporizer/comments/6oh8zt

RustyOldNail said:

“The Flavor chamber creates a seal between the oven and the mouthpiece and acts as the air path of the vaporizer. When it is removed there are additional air gaps that are created and actually decrease vapor production. It also removes the air path from the vaporizer so your vapor leaves a residue on the inside of your vaporizer.l
— DaVinci Vaporizers

I read one user ran without the Flavor Chamber, IQ eventually stopped working, upon opening the device up, there was resin all over the inside of the supposedly isolated section. Also since your vapor path is NO longer going through the Zirconium FC, it’s now passing over whatever the inside of the devices metal is, aluminum, steel?

It’s your device, just added this in case you didn’t consider the possible side effects of removing the FC.

Topic also mentioned here by a Davinci rep:

https://www.reddit.com/r/davincivaporizer/comments/6oh8zt

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I appreciate the info and caution. Removal of the FC will only yield short term benefits. Reminds me of 45's tax cuts. Oh no, a political commentary. Let's hope all hell doesn't break loose .

I'm leaving my flavor chamber installed (except to clean).

Maybe the good folks at Davinci will chime in as to what grind, packing technique or temp is required to not experience any performance drop using pods.

endof3d said:

Maybe the good folks at Davinci will chime in as to what grind, packing technique or temp is required to not experience any performance drop using pods.

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Now there's an idea.

endof3d said:

Maybe the good folks at Davinci will chime in as to what grind, packing technique or temp is required to not experience any performance drop using pods.

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PODS:
I tried different grinds, packing, tamping, temperatures, etc.
Since even at 420f, I didn’t get much vapor, I’d be curious if I’m missing something. I even bought the $25 POD refills as I was hoping they worked like my Mighty capsules, which is all I use with that device. I believe with the two 18650 batteries the Mighty can just produce more heat for longer. Not a knock against the IQ2, as I love the smaller compact size.

What I’d love to learn is how oven and temperature control work, like the SB Mighty, you set your desired temperature, and get feedback when set temperature is reached. But these temperatures are not dynamic like a PID. For example, set your temperature to 420f, after it quickly tells you it’s up to temp, open both ends of the IQ2, notice the display does NOT fluctuate at all, if the thermistor was dynamic, the cold air introduced with the device being open, would show the temperature going up to compensate. Now, this may be happening in the device, but with no visible feedback.

A wonderful way to tell how your set temperature and oven is working, is to use the IQ2 through small, tiny water rigs. I’ve been using both a Nectar Collector Honeybird core, and tiny Aqua Lab - 14mm Mini Dab Rig.

I can directly see how slowly the vapor is drawn, which has helped me to go slow and easy. I can also see how the vapor gets thinner at the end of that draw, meaning I’ve gotten most of the contents at that temperature, and then bump up the temp manually, same results using the Smart Paths.

Is the oven keeping up, probably not as well as the more powerful Mighty, but with my .2g loads using the small Zirconium spacer on top, I believe I’m getting it all at whatever my set temp is at. But with the visible vapor feedback in the water bubbler, even if I have some lung power left, I can see that particular toke is over.

At some point I’ll break out my temperature testing gear. If there is any interest in the two glass bubblers I mentioned, let me know, I’ll post the links, and some photos.

Breaking Bud said:

Curious if you do anything special with the Pods? I want them to work but I'm at a loss as to why they haven't for me.

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I hand tear flower, which ends up being a coarse grind. I pack a pod pretty tight. I make sure the pearl is extended enough so the pod doesn’t rattle in the oven. I do a couple of hits at a time and turn the unit off. Smart Path 2 for hits 1 and 2, Smart Path 3 for hits 3-5, then Smart Path 4 for the rest. After hit 6 I take out the pod and flip it around. Hits 7 and 8 are usually very big and then 9-12 decrease rapidly in volume and taste. Often I stop with the pod at hit 10.

Oh I did not know there were spacers available now, zirconia spacers sound really nice, I would like to test them out, but I have been able to vape smaller amounts okay too... Looks like they come to $20 shipped

Whoops too late to edit, but I just used my IQ2 with my new vigreux cooler by @Vlad the Inhaler aka 508phineas on Instagram from @VGOODIEZ and it is so useful with so many vapes, great quality design, super thick glass, and great price!

Shit Snacks said:

Whoops too late to edit, but I just used my IQ2 with my new vigreux cooler by @Vlad the Inhaler aka 508phineas on Instagram from @VGOODIEZ and it is so useful with so many vapes, great quality design, super thick glass, and great price!

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How would you describe it affecting your IQ2 experience? Cooler vapor? Better flavor? Less harsh? Or, all of that?

Breaking Bud said:

How would you describe it affecting your IQ2 experience? Cooler vapor? Better flavor? Less harsh? Or, all of that?

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It changes the draw a bit, but yeah it is for cooling vapor, nice for the upper temps, instead of using a water tool or jayhook. Not really necessary for the lower temps, but yeah better flavor than going through water at least, while cutting down any harshness.

cpl5938 said:

I hand tear flower, which ends up being a coarse grind. I pack a pod pretty tight. I make sure the pearl is extended enough so the pod doesn’t rattle in the oven. I do a couple of hits at a time and turn the unit off. Smart Path 2 for hits 1 and 2, Smart Path 3 for hits 3-5, then Smart Path 4 for the rest. After hit 6 I take out the pod and flip it around. Hits 7 and 8 are usually very big and then 9-12 decrease rapidly in volume and taste. Often I stop with the pod at hit 10.

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Dude. you have solved my Pod problem. It was the pearl. It has to be almost disconnected so that it actually makes contact with the Pod. I just went with smart path 3 then 4 and got some really nice tasty clouds. This is why I appreciate this forum. It solves stoners problems and we all need that . Thanks!

Breaking Bud said:

Dude. you have solved my Pod problem. It was the pearl. It has to be almost disconnected so that it actually makes contact with the Pod. I just went with smart path 3 then 4 and got some really nice tasty clouds. This is why I appreciate this forum. It solves stoners problems and we all need that . Thanks!

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Excellent! So glad to hear that. I first made sure it was right against the pod only because I didn't like hearing the pod rattling in the oven, and then discovered it helped with the hits. It's all a bit of experimentation to figure out what works best for each of us because I'm no expert at any of this!

What's your guys' inhales looking like with the IQ2? Tried it the other day and I wasn't getting too much vapor at all. After 1 smart path session I was feeling pretty good, so I know it worked, but feeling like for the amount of flower that went in, I should have felt it much more than I did.

Follow up session I did a smart path on 3/4 to try and finish it off and it was ehh.

Is it just the nature of the beast here? Maybe I should have packed more in? I was even thinking I wasn't giving it enough time to build heat between hits, which is a mental thing I think because I sit there worrying about my oven with like 15 scoops of weed in there getting cooked.

cpl5938 said:

Excellent! So glad to hear that. I first made sure it was right against the pod only because I didn't like hearing the pod rattling in the oven, and then discovered it helped with the hits. It's all a bit of experimentation to figure out what works best for each of us because I'm no expert at any of this!

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Well, you done good!

BrianTL said:

What's your guys' inhales looking like with the IQ2? Tried it the other day and I wasn't getting too much vapor at all. After 1 smart path session I was feeling pretty good, so I know it worked, but feeling like for the amount of flower that went in, I should have felt it much more than I did.

Follow up session I did a smart path on 3/4 to try and finish it off and it was ehh.

Is it just the nature of the beast here? Maybe I should have packed more in? I was even thinking I wasn't giving it enough time to build heat between hits, which is a mental thing I think because I sit there worrying about my oven with like 15 scoops of weed in there getting cooked.

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Are you due for a cleaning perhaps?

BrianTL said:

What's your guys' inhales looking like with the IQ2? Tried it the other day and I wasn't getting too much vapor at all. After 1 smart path session I was feeling pretty good, so I know it worked, but feeling like for the amount of flower that went in, I should have felt it much more than I did.

Follow up session I did a smart path on 3/4 to try and finish it off and it was ehh.

Is it just the nature of the beast here? Maybe I should have packed more in? I was even thinking I wasn't giving it enough time to build heat between hits, which is a mental thing I think because I sit there worrying about my oven with like 15 scoops of weed in there getting cooked.

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The quality of hit depends on how you've dialed it up, how tight you pack the oven and how moist your consumables are. You haven't mentioned that. Less resistance=less observable vapor. More is more so you need to factor that in. If you pack the oven very tight, I've found that it disrupts airflow, especially with a finer grind. If you're not using a spacer or Pods then I would use a medium coarse grind that's not compacted tightly by the pearl. A little pressure, yes but the lid should easily close over the oven. If your hits are still light, try a stir or two as needed during your session. Finally, If you follow these suggestions and your product is not overly moist, you'll find you can get excellent flavor starting at smartpath 2 and then more buzz when you've progressed to 4.

Shit Snacks said:

Are you due for a cleaning perhaps?

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And that's a good point as well.

Shit Snacks said:

Are you due for a cleaning perhaps?

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I dont believe so. I had cleaned it up pretty good and probably only had 2 uses out of it after the last cleaning.

Breaking Bud said:

The quality of hit depends on how you've dialed it up, how tight you pack the oven and how moist your consumables are. You haven't mentioned that. Less resistance=less observable vapor. More is more so you need to factor that in. If you pack the oven very tight, I've found that it disrupts airflow, especially with a finer grind. If you're not using a spacer or Pods then I would use a medium coarse grind that's not compacted tightly by the pearl. A little pressure, yes but the lid should easily close over the oven. If your hits are still light, try a stir or two as needed during your session. Finally, If you follow these suggestions and your product is not overly moist, you'll find you can get excellent flavor starting at smartpath 2 and then more buzz when you've progressed to 4.


And that's a good point as well.

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I'm thinking it's my tamp...I've always struggled with that. Back when it was my one and only vape I had finally settled on a pretty tight oven with just a bit of resistance as the lid nears the closed position. This time I had purposely left it on the lighter side to see what it would do... I'll go back to a bit of a tighter pack next time

thanks!

BrianTL said:

I dont believe so. I had cleaned it up pretty good and probably only had 2 uses out of it after the last cleaning.



I'm thinking it's my tamp...I've always struggled with that. Back when it was my one and only vape I had finally settled on a pretty tight oven with just a bit of resistance as the lid nears the closed position. This time I had purposely left it on the lighter side to see what it would do... I'll go back to a bit of a tighter pack next time

thanks!

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Just want to chime in here and put focus on that a firmer pack will increase vapor production. Some other contributors will be the moisture/dryness of your flower, the grind of course. We recommend medium coarse to just above fine grind. Oh and let's not forget well temperature, amount loaded, and length of draw.

Most importantly though, the firmness of the pack. DaVinci is all about conduction heating. That being said, you want as much material in contact with each other, and pressed against the walls of the oven. Conduction will heat evenly and most effectively. Do you want to pack it so tight that it's a puck of flower? Absolutely not. Just a solid tamp in between "scoops" does the trick.

The 3in1tool that we offer has a blunt end and that end is a PERFECT tamper for our oven size. If not that, then I have a personal share where I use the eraser side of a brand new pencil. (Also the brand new pencil eraser tamps the pods VERY WELL).

Now, with pods, don't be afraid to really tamp it to the top. If you see the image we shared on IG today, it is right at the top. Then you push that pod cap in and you got a nice solid pack. (Yes some flower may push out of the side grooves at the top of the pod, so do it over a rolling tray or surface where you normally load things ).

Last, moisture. Its your friend with DAVINCI. Not just because of the SWEET and abundant flavor of terpenes. But also, because it will produce really nice clean vapor. Use humid packs and air tight jars, and I recommend a SP 3 start.

SP1 and SP2 are for low temp boiling points and flavor chasers. You want clouds? SP3/4 or precision temp it. You can also prime with the boost function to really just ramp it up periodically.

Recap TOP 5 points:
1. Pack firmly
2. Medium Coarse to Above Fine Grind
3. Use inventive tools and put the wrench time in!
4. The dosage pods are no exception to these rules.
5. Humid packs and airtight jars can keep your flower fresh sometimes up to 6 mo maintaining terpene and cannabinoid integrity

And remember... Higher Temp, Cloud Chase vs. Lower Temps, Flavor Chase.

RustyOldNail said:

Maybe @Davinci_vaporizer can help us out with a “YDL 18650” purple wrap data sheet?
This is the battery that came with my one week old IQ2.
Thanks.

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Any follow up, or is this a dead issue?

RustyOldNail said:

Any follow up, or is this a dead issue?

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Not a dead issue. Totally working it up the chain and should have this buttoned up by Friday.

Davinci_vaporizer said:

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Now, with pods, don't be afraid to really tamp it to the top. If you see the image we shared on IG today, it is right at the top. Then you push that pod cap in and you got a nice solid pack. (Yes some flower may push out of the side grooves at the top of the pod, so do it over a rolling tray or surface where you normally load things ).
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I can totally confirm this helps. I'll also keep mentioning that if you can, take out the pod and flip it over halfway through. Easy for me because I only do a couple of hits at a time rather than the full session. Warning, the pod gets really hot. But I get at least 30% more hits/extraction from doing this.

Davinci_vaporizer said:

Not a dead issue. Totally working it up the chain and should have this buttoned up by Friday.

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Noticed you didn’t specify which “Friday”.....

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