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lazy

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Are you sure you get all of this delivered?
Yeah, I'm a bit worried now. I received my Paypal authorisation, and nothing much else. If something is too good to be true....

I guess I'm protected by PayPal, but I should have done more research before leaping. Just reading other parts of the website, and I'm noticing dodgy grammar and Americanised English. I feel dumb now. Although, it might still be proved to be legit (although I don't think I'll hold my breath).
 
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Flotsam

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I have never tried to make a claim against something i did not get that was paid with PayPal. I sincerely hope you get everything, meanwhile don't fret.
 
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budski

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Hopefully got enough dynavap bits snd pieces for my remaining time here on earth🤪.
I thought that a couple years ago, but there's always upgrades!
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budski

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To single out a favorite is tough; aesthetically the new to me custom Omni is stunning, the one 's behind it are all beautiful and carefully curated.
all of them get used so I can admire them properly.
for vaping flavor and effects the Camouflet XL convectors with xl Dovetail stems or Ceramo win the reach test.
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Radwin Bodnic

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So... I just bought my first dynavap. The G3 was just what I was waiting for I guess.
But while I'm waiting for the delivery, it seems that the lighter provided in the kit is a soft flame lighter, the ones with the wire that hardens the flame, but not a torch.
Can someone confirms ?
If it's indeed a soft flame, I'll buy a clipper torch to fit in the tin. But the price of the kit seems less good now...

dynavap-g3-pinkflame.webp


Edit : I'll try the kit as it is. But I plan on adding a fmj in the future and I think a real torch will be needed for this...
 
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coolbreeze

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So... I just bought my first dynavap. The G3 was just what I was waiting for I guess.
But while I'm waiting for the delivery, it seems that the lighter provided in the kit is a soft flame lighter, the ones with the wire that hardens the flame, but not a torch.
Can someone confirms ?
If it's indeed a soft flame, I'll buy a clipper torch to fit in the tin. But the price of the kit seems less good now...

dynavap-g3-pinkflame.webp


Edit : I'll try the kit as it is. But I plan on adding a fmj in the future and I think a real torch will be needed for this...
It's a blue flame torch as far as I can tell, it's got a tiny flame though. Not sure how Troy adjusted his...

Edit: actually, I'm not sure. I haven't heard of that type of lighter, so this could be that. It works well with the G3 but it's weird for sure.
 
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hotmeals

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But while I'm waiting for the delivery, it seems that the lighter provided in the kit is a soft flame lighter, the ones with the wire that hardens the flame, but not a torch.
Can someone confirms ?
Mine says "jet flame" on it and seems like a real torch to me. I also don't know about the type of soft flame lighter you're referring to though, so it could be that.
it's got a tiny flame though. Not sure how Troy adjusted his...
Mine has been pretty inconsistent so far. Sometimes huge flame sometimes small. Hoping it improves after the first refill. The flame is also not turning red anymore with mine.
 

Radwin Bodnic

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Mine has been pretty inconsistent so far. Sometimes huge flame sometimes small. Hoping it improves after the first refill. The flame is also not turning red anymore with mine.
The pink / red color is due to a lithium wire in the flame path. When the wire has burned or is dislodged then the flame don't change color.
Have you been running it on its stock butane ?

I can't tell the technical difference between "soft jet flame" and "torch" but the second has a stronger flame and is hotter. They're not the same burners.

Going down further on this rabbit hole I've found that clipper has a "soft" line which refers to the texture of the butane tank. (Soft to the touch). :doh: So I think the lighters in dynavap com pictures are just that.

Last rant about the lighters : I don't like the fact that they're sending random color lighters when ALL their communication shows a black one, including the kits they sent to reviewers / influencers. I really hope I'll get a black one..

Back on topic, @hotmeals how do you like the G3 ? Are you using it with the captive cap or an armored ?
@coolbreeze sod you got one as well ?
 

MrJitterz

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So... I just bought my first dynavap. The G3 was just what I was waiting for I guess.
But while I'm waiting for the delivery, it seems that the lighter provided in the kit is a soft flame lighter, the ones with the wire that hardens the flame, but not a torch.
Can someone confirms ?
If it's indeed a soft flame, I'll buy a clipper torch to fit in the tin. But the price of the kit seems less good now...

dynavap-g3-pinkflame.webp


Edit : I'll try the kit as it is. But I plan on adding a fmj in the future and I think a real torch will be needed for this...
It's torch powered for sure just has a color changing metal in it's path. Cool idea but doesn't change anything but the colour
 

WirtDog

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I use the M7/M7XL—mainly the M7XL—heated exclusively with the Wand. Using the black Wand insert, I’m heating the cap, and it works consistently great every time. I‘ve found no need to heat the bottom.

Also, I picked up a Halo tip, and this works great with the M7XL. I’d say, paired this way, it’s generally kind of an upgrade to the M7XL. The only thing about this tip from my experience, is that it sometimes doesn’t heat up with the Wand and black insert. When this happens, the Wand light keeps blinking, there is no click, and no heating occurs. If I use the Wand open without the black insert, the Halo tip heats up consistently every time. My guess is the Wand, at least when using the black insert, doesn’t always interact well with the the Ti material of the Halo tip. I don’t know the science behind this. It’s just my speculation based on experience.

Finally, for a good look at how the Halo tip offers an alternative type of upgrade to the M7XL, Lee at Table Top Bong, explains it well.


Stock or with the option of adding a Halo tip, the M7XL (used with the Wand) is a very nice and effective device! Thanks TigoleBitties for initially recommending the M7/XL to me a ways back!!

I have the M7XL with the Halo tip and standard cap. Using the Wand and the Flare and restricted draw with condenser adjustment. It hits better than any of my Dynavaps and Simrells excepting his new offering which I am testing. I got M7XL on a video tip from Lee at TTB. I normally have adjustable condensers set for max airflow but choking it down and leaving the air port alone works very well. Very good performance and value!
 

hotmeals

Serial vapist
When the wire has burned or is dislodged then the flame don't change color.
Have you been running it on its stock butane ?
Yeah stock butane, I haven't refilled it yet. Does the lithium just tend to burn out quickly? I assume when Dynavapping we're keeping them lit longer than most other applications these would be used for. I don't really care about the colored flame anyway, just thought it was interesting.
Going down further on this rabbit hole I've found that clipper has a "soft" line which refers to the texture of the butane tank. (Soft to the touch). :doh: So I think the lighters in dynavap com pictures are just that.
Oh I forgot to mention that hah. Yes I believe the "soft" written on the lighter is referring to its rubberized texture.
Back on topic, @hotmeals how do you like the G3 ? Are you using it with the captive cap or an armored ?
I'm loving the G3. I've been using mine with a standard or a low temp captive cap depending on what I'm feeling. Haven't tried the Armored cap yet. I did try the BallR once and it worked well, but I may end up preferring the metal bowls for that one. I'll try the Armored Cap on it today in a bit and see what it's like.
 

Radwin Bodnic

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UPS delivered my g3 two (2) days before the predicted date.

First vapcap experience for me. Closest device I have is the Vaponic. Keep in mind where I'm coming from.

As I expected, the lighter is not a true torch. It is a jet lighter where the air and butane don't mix the same way they do in a torch, thus the softer and cooler flame. It works with the vapcap though it is very inconsistent and frustrating. I sometimes have to ignite 5 times to get the flame going.

The tin case is nice although a bit big for the content. The foam insert is very cheap though. It doesn't hold the device so you have to be careful when opening and I assume the foam is not heat resistant.

A heat resistant insert (cork ?) that actually holds the device secure and has a magnet would be a major improvement. But really I'm just going to cut short one of the wooden tubes I use for the Vaponic. And user a better lighter (I'm looking at you pb207).

Regarding the device, the form factor is fantastic imo. The bowl is slightly larger than the Vaponic, which is probably just what I need right now.
On the other hand, the glasswork is pretty cheap. Lot of tiny bubbles in my unit. I don't expect the glass screen to last very long (it's super thin). But except if I end up inhaling glass bits, I don't really care because I don't plan to use ground herb with it. Only whole nuggets.
The frosted part that (approximately) grips the cap is scratched by the captive indents first use.

Now on usage. I don't understand the carb... I have to close it every time. If the vapor is too hot my reflex is to take the device out of my mouth, not to release the carb. Vapor is a little harsh but that was expected regarding the path length and the lack of cooling tech. The carb isn't a cooling tech imo, it just dilutes the vapor.

To be fair I still have a lot to learn with this device.

I've only used whole nuggets and the roast is a bit heterogeneous but nothing crazy. Pretty well extracted in 3 to 5 heatups (respecting the click). Nice conduction effects. Taste is not as bright compared to what I'm used to but still pleasant and recognizable.

Overall the simplicity and form factor are just what I was hoping for. I'll try to cobble a better stash together and probably add a copper FMJ in the future. I think it'll heat quickly with the pb207 and will need less reheats.

No honeymoon so far but this is just the utility Ted I needed.
 

hotmeals

Serial vapist
The frosted part that (approximately) grips the cap is scratched by the captive indents first use.
I think in my case the glass is scraping metal from the cap, and the marks on the glass can be wiped right off.
Now on usage. I don't understand the carb... I have to close it every time.
Try partially covering it so that you can dynamically adjust the fresh air intake and find a sweet spot as you're hitting it. I feel like that helps me get the vapor density/feel/taste that I want out of most of my Dynavaps, and can improve the roast compared to fully covering it. For me the G3 has been very smooth, probably smoother than most of my other Dynavaps, but I do find Dynavaps to generally be somewhat on the harsher side.

By the way, I forgot to report the results of my Armored Cap/G3 test the other day. I decided to do it quick bowl style heating all the way to the clicks on the first hit because I think that would show the most unique results. With the glass bowl the heat transfer from cap to bowl was much slower, and I didn't get a big hit until the second draw. I got 2 big hits and a couple wispy ones before reheating it once. Took it a little bit too hot on both heatings I think, so it would just be an easy heating adjustment to get it perfect. I was kind of expecting that heat delay which is why I wasn't really planning to pair these pieces, but It was nice enough that I'll probably do it again. I expect it probably works better inducted with the armored cap but I didn't try.
 

Radwin Bodnic

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I think in my case the glass is scraping metal from the cap, and the marks on the glass can be wiped right off.
I think you're right. It makes more sense regarding materials hardness. I'll try to clean mine.
Try partially covering it so that you can dynamically adjust the fresh air intake and find a sweet spot as you're hitting it.
I'll try but the hole is very small (and my fingers aren't that big). I find it simpler just to pull the device out of my mouth.
By the way, I forgot to report the results of my Armored Cap/G3 test the other day. I decided to do it quick bowl style heating all the way to the clicks on the first hit because I think that would show the most unique results. With the glass bowl the heat transfer from cap to bowl was much slower, and I didn't get a big hit until the second draw. I got 2 big hits and a couple wispy ones before reheating it once. Took it a little bit too hot on both heatings I think, so it would just be an easy heating adjustment to get it perfect. I was kind of expecting that heat delay which is why I wasn't really planning to pair these pieces, but It was nice enough that I'll probably do it again.
Interesting. I wanted to try a fmj to lower the number of reheats but it might feel underwhelming ?
Maybe the copper could give a bigger first hit than the steel ?

Thanks

I'd really like to turn this device into a conduction one hitter...
 
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Hippie

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I'll try but the hole is very small (and my fingers aren't that big). I find it simpler just to pull the device out of my mouth.

For me, no carb = no flavour
So I recommend the pinch n roll technique
I put the cap on with the digger outer pointing to the carb, to help locate the hole
and pinch the stem in the carb (airport) region so you can rotate the stem to regulate the airflow as you draw

As shown here
 

Radwin Bodnic

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For me, no carb = no flavour
So I recommend the pinch n roll technique
I put the cap on with the digger outer pointing to the carb, to help locate the hole
and pinch the stem in the carb (airport) region so you can rotate the stem to regulate the airflow as you draw

As shown here
I understand that he talks about the airport which is with a device that features a condenser. The g3 doesn't have a condenser so the airport is a carb.
If I don't obstruct it completely I don't get any vapor since the air is free flowing through the carb but not through the tip that is much more restricted.

I'll try the rolling modulation though.
 

nicknobody

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I understand that he talks about the airport which is with a device that features a condenser. The g3 doesn't have a condenser so the airport is a carb.
If I don't obstruct it completely I don't get any vapor since the air is free flowing through the carb but not through the tip that is much more restricted.

I'll try the rolling modulation though.
I think you are on to something here. My condenser-less glass stem has no carb and it’s perfect that way but on my condenser traditional dynavaps I absolutely flutter the carb and think it enhances the experience

 
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