mazinho420
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what vaporizer cured your VAS? or made you think so for a longer period of time?
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VAS - a never-ending story?
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chillAtGVC
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I think the only answer to that would be a list. 
TheThriftDrifter
Land of the long vapor cloud
Vapcap cured my vas for other vaporizers
It then it cured my need for other Vapcaps
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It then it cured my need for other Vapcaps
A now you see me...... now you don't......production.......SillySage Incorporated.
Perfect_Speed4069
I am the beetle in a box that only you can see
I've just done a list of all the vapes I've ever had, and alarmingly, discovered I've bought 40+ mostly over a 36 month period that ended last September. Only 4 of these have had batteries, and I have never used a plug in device.
My first Vapman was my 12th vape (after the StickyBrick Flip, and before the Noisy Cricket) and although it didn't cure my VAS, it's now about the only thing I use.
I am extremely pleased to have explored my chosen niche, and been lucky enough to have tried most of the devices I've ever been interested in.
VAS can be seen as an acquisitive thing, or as an exploratory thing. I've given away most of the vapes I've acquired, mainly because drawers full of unused equipment offends me. And at the end of this road, I'm not that bothered about new vapes any more, as I've found what does it for me - simply and reliably.
Butane lighters on the other hand ...
My first Vapman was my 12th vape (after the StickyBrick Flip, and before the Noisy Cricket) and although it didn't cure my VAS, it's now about the only thing I use.
I am extremely pleased to have explored my chosen niche, and been lucky enough to have tried most of the devices I've ever been interested in.
VAS can be seen as an acquisitive thing, or as an exploratory thing. I've given away most of the vapes I've acquired, mainly because drawers full of unused equipment offends me. And at the end of this road, I'm not that bothered about new vapes any more, as I've found what does it for me - simply and reliably.
Butane lighters on the other hand ...
jungpunk420
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I find multi-usage vapes like Bakx or Vapman are the best in my wheelhouse! I search for vapes do everything well but are still portable.
TigoleBitties
Big and Bouncy
Very well said. I'm finding myself closer to this point. Maybe not quite there yet but the VAS seems to be slowing after a flurry of purchases last year.
I have multiple reliable and tasty vapes now, for different occasions. Gone are the days when I only bought one vape at a time. I've been lucky in that I'm thoroughly enjoying the last three vapes I've bought and I've not regretted a purchase for a while now. I hope that if my VAS does flare up in the future, some wisdom I've gained over the years will help keep the bad picks to a minimum.
chillAtGVC
Well-Known Member
You're NOT helping!
cx714
Unregulated Tendencies
After trying X number of vapes, I feel like I’ve got a handle on what I like and the kind of vape that’s likely to deliver it. It’s easy to rule out products when it’s pretty clear they’re not a good fit.
But something new’s always coming down the pike and the constant reinvention of the wheel is one of the joys of this hobby. No one finds FC without a degree of curiosity and open mindedness, after all.
emily
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Buying more vapes doesn’t cure VAS because VAS isn’t about needing a better device. Its about chasing the idea of the perfect vape experience. Every vape has strengths and weaknesses, and even when you get one that seems ideal, you start thinking about what could be even better. The cycle never really stops.
New technology and hype are big contributors. It’s easy to convince yourself that your collection isn’t complete yet.
There’s the whole different vapes for different situations reasoning. Yeah, convection and conduction are different, session and on-demand have their place, and desktop vs. portable can be a legit reason to own multiple devices. But most of the time it’s just a justification to keep buying more.
The honeymoon phase is another big part of it. A new vape always feels amazing at first, but after a while, you start noticing little things you don’t like. VAS isn’t about functionality, it’s about satisfaction. If buying a new vape feels like it’s improving your experience, you’ll keep chasing that feeling instead of actually enjoying what you already have.
The only way to really stop VAS is to recognize that it‘s not about the devices, it’s about the mindset. A lot of the time it’s just boredom disguised as a need.
That said, I can’t wait to pick up one of those Qaromashop 360XLS’s. That vape is definitely gonna kill my VAS.
New technology and hype are big contributors. It’s easy to convince yourself that your collection isn’t complete yet.
There’s the whole different vapes for different situations reasoning. Yeah, convection and conduction are different, session and on-demand have their place, and desktop vs. portable can be a legit reason to own multiple devices. But most of the time it’s just a justification to keep buying more.
The honeymoon phase is another big part of it. A new vape always feels amazing at first, but after a while, you start noticing little things you don’t like. VAS isn’t about functionality, it’s about satisfaction. If buying a new vape feels like it’s improving your experience, you’ll keep chasing that feeling instead of actually enjoying what you already have.
The only way to really stop VAS is to recognize that it‘s not about the devices, it’s about the mindset. A lot of the time it’s just boredom disguised as a need.
That said, I can’t wait to pick up one of those Qaromashop 360XLS’s. That vape is definitely gonna kill my VAS.
Suki
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I think part of VAS is caused by the number of devices available and the sad fact that you can't trust reviewers because most of them are paid shills, so you have to try a few DHV before you know what is best for you
I'm really happy with the devices I own and I don't feel like I'm missing, but I'm sure if I read enough marketing bullshit, I might eventually convince myself otherwise
I'm really happy with the devices I own and I don't feel like I'm missing, but I'm sure if I read enough marketing bullshit, I might eventually convince myself otherwise
Pukka
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Truer words, particularly the latter, have never been said ...
Vaptic_Feedback
Chasing that smooth vapor
Been rocking the TM2 for months, got the Bowle 2 on Friday and the Ace arriving tonight. I am hoping this is the cure. I am likely wrong.
My hope is to settle with these three, then invest in accessories to make them better, rather than chasing newer vapes. But then cool shit comes out and then I have to buy....
My hope is to settle with these three, then invest in accessories to make them better, rather than chasing newer vapes. But then cool shit comes out and then I have to buy....
Flotsam
Well-Known Member
I think Emily is pot on with the assessment on VAS. I think the points are accurate as far as I am concerned..
bellona0544
Well-Known Member
@emily is right on!!
Humans in Western cultures in particular are currently expected to spend more money in order to solve their problems, and they are expected to create problem that can be solved by spending money. We are taught that products like vaporizers can be refined to perfection and that perfection makes the experience--any experience--superior to all other similar experiences. In the same breath, we are taught that things are constantly being refined and improved, and so even when a device is touted as "perfect" by the majority of the community for a bit, eventually we find things that we personally feel could be improved. Then we begin the quest anew for the next "perfect" device, never realizing that there is no such thing as underlying reality meaning things can only ever be perfect *to a person* and not perfect in the abstract.
The only cure is adjusting one's mindset, and that isn't so easily accomplished. I'm a full-on commie and can't just "turn off" my desire for shiny new things. I've tried to channel that into purchasing more secondhand devices and pieces when I can. I also am extremely cautious to avoid spending more than I can, and I've never spent money I didn't have on this hobby.
One way I've found of reducing my desire for brand-new devices is playing around with lots of DIY stuff and trying to get new uses out of devices I already have. By playing with the toys I already have, I get to fulfill my need for tinkering and playing and shiny-object-appreciating and I don't have to spend any more money.
Anyhoo I'm off to buy a wireless CC Omega so byeeee
Humans in Western cultures in particular are currently expected to spend more money in order to solve their problems, and they are expected to create problem that can be solved by spending money. We are taught that products like vaporizers can be refined to perfection and that perfection makes the experience--any experience--superior to all other similar experiences. In the same breath, we are taught that things are constantly being refined and improved, and so even when a device is touted as "perfect" by the majority of the community for a bit, eventually we find things that we personally feel could be improved. Then we begin the quest anew for the next "perfect" device, never realizing that there is no such thing as underlying reality meaning things can only ever be perfect *to a person* and not perfect in the abstract.
The only cure is adjusting one's mindset, and that isn't so easily accomplished. I'm a full-on commie and can't just "turn off" my desire for shiny new things. I've tried to channel that into purchasing more secondhand devices and pieces when I can. I also am extremely cautious to avoid spending more than I can, and I've never spent money I didn't have on this hobby.
One way I've found of reducing my desire for brand-new devices is playing around with lots of DIY stuff and trying to get new uses out of devices I already have. By playing with the toys I already have, I get to fulfill my need for tinkering and playing and shiny-object-appreciating and I don't have to spend any more money.
Anyhoo I'm off to buy a wireless CC Omega so byeeee
Perfect_Speed4069
I am the beetle in a box that only you can see
As a fellow traveller (I prefer autonomist, but round here that's probably beside the point) my strong advice is: give stuff away. Give it a kiss, and then wave it goodbye. The real joy is in the sharing of assets, not in the hoarding. Sell if you need to sell, but knowing you're gifting pleasure (not because you should, but because you can) is a thing in itself.
Anyways, Bella Ciao from the rainy north western parts of Brexit Island.
florduh
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This is also how we are kept in line. Virtually everybody spends most of their waking lives laboring in petty private dictatorships. A tiny number of people leech off of your labor to live like gods. Even if you receive enough in return to cover your cost of living, you know you're a bit of bad luck and a few missed paychecks away from ruin. All while leeches mooch off your labor, amassing more wealth than any one person could spend in centuries. Logically, you should be taking up arms to free yourself from this unjust tyranny.
But... if I can get the dopamine hit from buying a new vaporizer. Well, maybe the chains aren't so bad? Maybe the total lack of security for me and my family is tolerable
I will say... I don't really have a problem with how Neoliberalism keeps citizens in line. I think offering treat and toys and vaporizers to subdue the masses is better than using secret police oppression. I just believe the organizations making and distributing the treats and vapes should be owned by workers instead of lazy shareholders
TigoleBitties
Big and Bouncy
I always try to get the best out of the vapes I purchase and learn them to their fullest. This is a great tool not only for delaying VAS but increasing your enjoyment as well.
Already started doing this. It's good advice.
bellona0544
Well-Known Member
This also works as a potential solution to VAS! Channel your own energy into providing things for other people, and you still get the dopamine hit but you don't have to have nearly as much random crap!! I've bought about half a dozen vapcaps for others and given away about a third of the total amount I've purchased so now my collection is much smaller and I have several friends who will always think of me whenever they pull out their vape! And if they turn it into a fancy one-hitter? So it goes!!