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Discontinued Zion vaporizer

Discussion in 'Portable Vaporizers' started by lwien, Jan 22, 2015.

  1. Dramma Lamma

    Dramma Lamma Looks like a job for!

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    Yes, I feel like the air leaking is part of the problem but may not be the full picture.

    I did the same as you and put small piece of packaging foam in the battery terminal holes and it did seem to help a bit.

    I don't want to make problems for RBT/ryan so I can't detail much past this: I am testing the fix to my unit now in another unit. If it holds up for a few weeks we can probably put this all behind us with the fix.

    The test unit with the fix works amazingly at ~60% with no need to restrict draw which is a huge difference from the other which takes 75% or more and heavily restricted draw to work the same.

    This test unit I am very happy with and it is working like I imagined.
     
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  2. Cl4ud3

    Cl4ud3 Well-Known Member

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    Sounds like what we wanted to hear, so there were some issues with some units in the last batch but it is being fixed, awesome news. Maybe I will get a Zion for Christmas!
     
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  3. Shit Snacks

    Shit Snacks Milaana. Lana. LANA. LAANAAAAAA

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    Hmmmm yeah I don't know if I can get quite what @AJS can in the vid (thanks again man! knew you would come through) but I am doing more sessions through without bumping to max. Milked at 50% as long as I could before bumping to 75 to continue and finish. Though I am still not sure my max can do what your max can, and it does seem I have to coax mine a bit for proper cloudage below max... So yeah mine could be fine, may need this solution, we shall see. I encourage all owners to conduct extensive testing before presuming it is faulty though :brow:
     
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  4. Farkas

    Farkas Do you know about the bird?

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    I saw you all trying some stuff and I figured I'd give mine another shot. Full batteries, super slow draw, covered carb - tried the dial on 50%, 75% and full blast. Unfortunately, nothing. Unit is just not getting to temp at all.
     
  5. HD Springer

    HD Springer Well-Known Member

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    I would send it back to get worked on. The Zion should be able to combust at 100%. That's the standard that was asked for and given as far as I remember. And you shouldn't have to coax anything at any time. IMO. I realize some people have a hard time limiting their draw rate on a clean stem/screen. But we are way way past all that with all the different "tricks" everyone keeps coming up with.
     
  6. Farkas

    Farkas Do you know about the bird?

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    Yep, and I agree wholeheartedly. She worked great out of the box (had a scare with the overheating thing but it may have just been me being overcautious and not knowing the unit yet), but then crapped out. Wish I kept the original packaging, as that is the main issue for me now, finding a good enough sized box to use. Once I get that sorted, I'll pack her up, fill out the warranty page info on the RBT site, and send her off.
     
  7. KeroZen

    KeroZen Chronic vapaholic

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    Damn, one of my pair of cells that I bought early on for the Zion crapped on itself! It's my fault and it's the proof that you should not let them sit charged for too long.

    I had two pairs of rewrapped HE2 from VapPower, they performed pretty nice. I left one pair discharged in the area where I put the charging "queue". But I fully charged the second pair, and this was when I started using the power adapter exclusively with the Zion. Since I didn't want to break the pair by using them in my other devices, it sat on my desk for some time.

    Tonight I tried to use them and one is at 2.53V and the other is flat at 0.08V, FUBAR. I tested the pair that was discharged and it's sitting happily at 3.3V each...

    Normally I would dispose the flat cell but I'll try to revive it for science in order to measure how its IR changed using the new gizmo I bought. I'll post the results in the 18650 safety thread for those interested. The other cell surely took a hit too.

    So conclusion: if you plan to let your cells unused for more than a month, discharge them under 3.7V first!
     
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  8. AJS

    AJS Calm Consistency

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    Just had suuuch a nice sesh in the Zion.

    Normally through water I'm using a light, checking abv after every hit, trying to perfect technique, analyzing every variable, trying to get big clouds, etc etc.

    Instead, this time I packed a bowl and went outside with my D020D and Zion. Set the dial to 60% and just sat back and vaped. Used the built in stir tool to stir...don't even need to take it out of the Zion to stir, I just keep the tool in there, flip the zion over and use the whole thing to stir as if it's an oversized Lotus adapter.

    I never even looked at the bubbler or changed the dial or anything. Just sat back, pressed the button, and pulled at whatever pace was comfortable. Exhaled huge clouds. Flavor never went poor, just turned neutral and stayed that way ...something I couldn't fully accomplish with other vapes.

    That was one of my most enjoyable sessions. Just good ol' fashion vaping without any bells n whistle. As I was sitting there, I thought of how much hassle it was getting my LSV to be used in that exact same seat. Bring full duffle bag outside, slide chair closer to the outlet, etc. Now I just grab my zion and bubbler and walk outside and start vaping. No heatup time, literally just go outside and vape. All my vapes with the exception of the Solo 2 (still only a 25 second heatup) are 100% on demand...so it's something I take for granted sometimes. It truly is a blessing to have this.
     
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  9. AJS

    AJS Calm Consistency

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    Kinda really want a cheap Chinese hydratube. Seems like it would be super chill with the Zion! They're just kinda bulky ... hmm
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  10. Farkas

    Farkas Do you know about the bird?

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    Well, Neo is on his way back to his maker. And, of course, I found the original shipping box after the fact. Isn't that always the way?
     

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