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Your favorite on demand vape.

Discussion in 'Ask FC' started by Crim, Feb 20, 2018.

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  1. little maggie

    little maggie Well-Known Member

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    Need to add the iHeat to your list.
    I think including portable and desktop in the same list is confusing. I have most of the portables and would vote for the tubos (both models) and splinter. Don't have the iHeat yet but I'm on the list.
     
  2. duff

    duff Well worn

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    @invertedisdead the elev8r is delicious and smooth through the dry stem in my experience.
    Had a full session video on my IG story.
    I was surprised how smooth and delicious it was.
     
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  3. ZC

    ZC Well-Known Member

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    iHeat, Milaana, Lotus. Everything else I've used is good in its own way, but those are easily my top 3.
     
  4. LabPong

    LabPong Well-Known Member

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    Ok...if bowl is loaded for both comparisons...(because that is not part of the vape heating up and getting ready to go status)....takes me about 45 seconds to get a hit out of the Elev8R.

    With the flowerpot you need to wait much more than that.

    I am not using any vape right not without water. Someone suggested I at least try the Elev8R wand and I would be surprised. I will try that out tomorrow. I really do not want to use one of my water units dry, tried it last week with a couple vapes and did not like it. I even tried to direct draw on my Air2 with the bigger bent stem and a little piece of organic cotton in it for particle catching. Cant taste the cotton at all but the taste with or without was harsh to me. Through water I can taste the terps much more clearly.
     
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  5. invertedisdead

    invertedisdead trance-form

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    I guess I consider a loaded bowl essential for the vape to be considered ready to use. IMO that is a key difference between the two vapes, is that you can prepare the load for the flowerpot while it is heating, and you can't with the Elev8r. That's definitely gonna make up for the slower heatup time.

    Let us know how you find it works with the dry wand, seems like a great test of smoothness if you could comfortably use it dry. The J hook looks sweet with it.
     
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  6. LabPong

    LabPong Well-Known Member

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    I have my flowers in 3 stages storage, so I always have ready to go grinds, or it will only take me 10 seconds to do so with a dried bud piece. lol So I have no wait time for prepping the bowl.

    I will see what happens when I use the wand tomorrow evening. I really have no desire to use it dry (with a torch anyway), but I will definitely find out how well someone like me that is highly sensitive deals with a dry draw on the Elev8R.
     
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  7. PPN

    PPN Fleurs&Vapeur

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    Absolute favourite is the Elevape smart vaporizer (ESV) since it's a true on-demand vape with inhalation detection so, basically, you only have to grab it and inhale, Nothing else!

    But I recently got a I-Heat which is pretty very good on this purpose and it's my actual go to. Along with the recently released Fog which the best for the money imo on the actual market.

    Grasshopper and MistVape Touch are top notch too!

    But there is so much good options now between Milaana, FW4,Vaponic, VapCap (all butane vaporizers in fact), Tubo, wax pens and I forget something else for sure!

    And so much incoming vapes: Lil'bud, Nomad,...
     
  8. Crim

    Crim No one gets out alive

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    No idea what this B1 is but surely sounds like I want one!

    As for the Arizer Air and Solo, these are more session vapes I would say vs on demand as they would surely burn up your stash if you left them on.
     
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  9. Crim

    Crim No one gets out alive

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    Okay, here is an updated list. Please let me know if something should be removed or if we still need to add some options. Please only suggest vapes that are actually out. It was also suggested to separate the portable vapes from the plug in vapes for this list as well. This is probably a good idea, but to be honest, I also don't expect any of the plug in units to blow away the portable versions and if they do it might be good to know. Here is the updated list:

    Dynavap Vapcaps
    Milaana
    Splinter
    Sticky Bricks
    Elev8R
    Enano Log
    The Tubo
    MFLB
    Firewood 4
    Zion
    MistVape Touch
    Nomad
    Firefly 2
    Grasshopper
    Ghost MV1
    FlowerPot
    ModPod
    Elevape smart vape
    I-Heat Vape
    Fog vape
    Tubo
    Lotus
    Vaponic

    Again, this list is not in any order. I will do a separate poll soon. The only real requirements I had in mind would be:

    1. Cannot waste or heat material when not triggered by user.
    2. Looking for best flower usage for the sake of this specific poll.
     
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  10. Boden

    Boden Aspie polymath

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    Unless you took the stem out. I’ve used a solo like a battery powered log.
     
  11. Jill NYC

    Jill NYC Portable Collector

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    @Crim Thanks for putting together the poll. I am pretty sure polls are limited in the number of choices you can have. I feel like you can only have somewhere in the range of 12-15. I can’t remember exact maximum.
    So you may have to bucket a few together as “other”.
     
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  12. P.A.M.

    P.A.M. Vapo Rising

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    @Jill NYC , @Crim , I don't know about option limits but I agree iHeat and Splinter are quite similar, could be on same line / mention . I don't have either but typically same beast , similar roar.

    same idea for e-nano log , the Underdog log and the HI logs are basically the same in concept / functionality.

    Not sure about about other vapes but surely some are similar
     
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  13. PPN

    PPN Fleurs&Vapeur

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    I don't remenber exactly how but Alan mentionned heating coil to be different than the Splinter one, and there is no glass , only wood, in the I-Heat but I agree they are both convection based device with 510 connexion and load in the stem style.

    Hi @Crim just saw you mentionned the Tubo 2 times in your list, not a big deal although... You can add to your list the DT Gen 2 atty from Divine tribe and maybe the Minivap if you don't mind if the device have to be powered on/off for each hit (like a log vape).
     
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  14. Crim

    Crim No one gets out alive

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    As previously stated it looks like I am going to need to reduce my poll list to 10 options. Admittedly, I really don't have all the facts on all these vaporizers and I am trying to reduce this list to 10 and group similar vapes. Here is my latest list:

    Dynavap Vapcaps - Vaponic
    Milaana - MistVape Touch
    Zion - Firewood
    Splinter - Iheat
    Sticky Brick
    Elev8R
    Tubo
    Firefly 2
    Grasshopper
    Ghost MV1
    Elevape smart vape
    Minivap
    Lotus

    I am looking for suggestions on getting the list to 10 options. Please let me know if you have any thoughts on dropping any of these from the current list or grouping a few more together.

    I have now reduced this list to portable only to help reduce the list to 10. Also, if I have removed something or not mentioned something I should please let us know.

    Thanks
     
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  15. Jah1975

    Jah1975 Well-Known Member

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    You could separate it into 2 lists, one with batteries, one with Butane in order to bring the list down a bit
     
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  16. Morty

    Morty Well-Zoned Member

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    Then we're pretty much talking convection vapes, right ? Don't the VC & the Vaponic have some conduction going on ?
     
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  17. Boden

    Boden Aspie polymath

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    The VC are mostly conduction but they cool down quite fast. I never leave a half spent load in the VC though. Two cycles and it’s spent.
     
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  18. Crim

    Crim No one gets out alive

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    I have seperated the polls as suggested above. The polls are now live so please submit your votes.

    Battery Vape: http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/favorite-on-demand-battery-vape-poll.26392/
    Butane Vape: http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/favorite-on-demand-butane-vape-poll.26391/

    I have allowed two votes per user. Please only vote for vapes you have actually used.

    If I got something wrong or missed something please let me know and we can reset poll.

    Thanks! :brow:
     
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  19. looney2nz

    looney2nz Research Geek, Mad Scientist

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    KeroZen, you slay me :)

    about did a spit-take on the laptop!

    hopefully I'm not being redundant... but I've been very happy with 'roll your own' Divine Tribe atomizer/Box Mod combos. A learning curve, but by no means insurmountable.
    More of a 'palm' sized vape, so still portable... looks very much like the array of eCigarette units.
    Option of using a session based atomizer or a tank unit.
    (I only use it for concentrates, but they have a flower vape as well).

    I have three of them in various configurations (easily changeable), know folks who have units with 2-3 batteries in 'em.
     
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  20. Fat Freddy

    Fat Freddy FUCK CANCER TOO !

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    My 3 year old Elevape still works great!
    (Knock on wood!)

    .
     
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  21. Crim

    Crim No one gets out alive

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    Semi related to this post I think I will also post a poll for best session vape soon. This list will easily be longer than 10 so I will cut it down to the 10 "most popular" session vapes I know of. If you would like to make a mention that would be cool.
     
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  22. Used2use

    Used2use Sometimes to stupid to become a fool

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    The sticky brick jr really is my favourite for that purpose. Turn on torch, inhale for 3sec and set aside for later, zero lost (sry vapcapers but i'm done drawing when u still heat) - vapor genies are kind of similar, but have a little heat sink...
    I'm on opposition to @KeroZen degrading high exergetic, hard to create electrons to do low grade anergy heat applications is disrespectful to them :p and torches filled with biomethane would be renewable ;)
     
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  23. CL52613

    CL52613 Well-Known Member

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    I could be mistaken, but in the videos for Elev8r when the wand is used, they blast the heater with a serious blow torch, and leave the heater attached to the wand between hits. With the amount of heat generated by the torch directed at the heater, with the herb chamber located immediately below the heater, how much of that heat is getting to the herb before the first draw and between hits? The hits might be so tasty, as reported here, but couldn't one factor be the amount the of herb the herb chamber holds; reportedly up to 2.5 grams? I was under the impression the original question was about on-demand vapes that do not heat the herb except for when taking a hit? Unless heat is only available during the draw or in preparation for the draw, I cannot see how that would be possible, unless you physical remove the herb from the heat path, as in removing the tube from an E-nano or the heater in the Flowerpot. The only truly on-demand vapes, in my own way of thinking, is the FireFly (super finicky) or the RBT vapes. And I sure hope I can get my hands on one of the Milaana 2 vapes when they are released. I hope the Wizard at RBT sees this and takes pity on this 65 year old dexterity challenged medical user seeking the ease and effectiveness of combustion in a vaporizer, so I can stop the search.
     
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  24. LabPong

    LabPong Well-Known Member

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    The way I heat the Elev8r.....with a Blazer Big Buddy Turbo on lowest possible heat setting.....usually I will get max 2 draws off each heat torching. Sometimes just one pending on how hot and how big I go.

    The load is far enough away from the heater any conduction heat and is not a concern. The glass bowl walling holds the heat more from the prior draw than any heat from the heater unit above.
     
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  25. stickstones

    stickstones Vapor concierge

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    If we’re gonna include the flowerpot then we need to include a lot of desktops that can be used on demand. I still think the king of on demand vapor is the Herbalizer. I turn that thing off between hits during a session!
     

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