The torch is a mostly a water device, although one does not have to employ water. I view the Hive 2.0 as more a discreet on-the-go device for concentrate. There is only one small wrapped coil as opposed to the Torch's two larger coils. On the other hand, I really like that one can use commercially purchased oil carts (some are too wide) in the Hive. It is far easier to carry in a pocket than a 510 e-cig battery. Since it has 3 temperature settings, you can set it where you like.