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Multi-brand X MAX STARRY

Discussion in 'Portable Vaporizers' started by cobra505, Apr 20, 2017.

  1. Chiron

    Chiron Well-Known Member

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    Hi Raf,

    Today I did a last burn off for ten minutes with fresh sinus and mouth:) Ran it at different temps up to 215C and I could barely smell the oven if I removed the mouthpiece (and not a horrible odour), so it seems fine at this point.

    Cheers!
    Glen
     
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  2. PPN

    PPN Fleurs&Vapeur

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    Hi, happy to see you back Raf and happy to get your support even if you only mentionned Stickstones:D, if you are in close contact with Topgreen could you ask them to create a WPA lid as an optionnal accessory since the Starry is a cloud machine and can milk even a large bubbler easily although the existing wpa is not ideal at all.
     
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  3. Jimmyweaese

    Jimmyweaese Well-Known Member

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    When people go through burn offs and that doesn't work. Do they not ask for refund and move on????
     
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  4. His_Highness

    His_Highness In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king

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    IMO...They can if they purchased from the right retailer. Some retailers aren't that into customer service which is why I buy from POTV and PIU. POTV has an unconditional 14 day return/refund policy in the US even if you used the vape and has a 30 day policy for unused and unopened vapes. No restocking fee but you may pay for return shipping.

    In some cases I might not ask for a refund and opt for another unit if I read through the thread and only see a couple folks having the same issue. If the second unit fails I'm looking for that refund or credit. For example....the OG Focus had a period where the outer covering of the vape was absorbing a really bad smell from storage. I had an OG Focus that didn't have a smell or taste issue already so when the manufacturer fixed the issue I had one sent to a friend once the fix was reported as working.
     
  5. Jimmyweaese

    Jimmyweaese Well-Known Member

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    Can I add,,? I had super good service from Flowermate.
     
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  6. Chiron

    Chiron Well-Known Member

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    I bought from a particular company because I wanted to buy a silo for my vapcap at the time. The have a 30 day return policy if unused, with a 20% reduction if a seal is opened. I did not check this until after I started having second thoughts after shipping. They did price match the Starry to a nice price...

    Glen
     
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  7. Chiron

    Chiron Well-Known Member

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    OK, it took me a few days to try it, because I was trying out my new Vapcap first. I left the screen in the MP, but used an extra screen in the oven to hold down only a half load of leaf because it was a rather late start. Over the course of 3 or 4 three-minute sessions last night for a few hours, I increased the temperature from 180 to 195C. I waited 20-30 seconds after reaching temperature. I had no clue how long to take it, but judging by the nice brown ABV, there was a good, even vape.

    I was a bit concerned that the smallish oven would still be a bit big for my micro-dosing needs, but no, it is perfect for a good evening. Already recommended to a friend with a caution to expect to take the time to burn off any odors. Very happy now - well built, convenient, and smooth draws :) This is from the standpoint of someone who laid off consumption for however many years and never vaped before this week.
     
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  8. wushuliu

    wushuliu New Member

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    Not a hardcore vape enthusiast, but I got the Starry POTV last week thanks to the great sale price. I read some of the posts regarding chemical smell and taste and wanted to relay my experience. Unfortunately I will have to agree that from the moment I powered it up alarm bells were ringing in my head from the smell. I did multiple burn-outs to see if it would improve. I wiped the chamber clean with iso, which did help slightly. The smell also decreases with temp (duh). So anyone who vapes right away at say 370, may think eh not so bad. I tried to tell myself no big deal and put some material in and gave it a go. But the taste was indeed affected. Something wasn't right.

    I tinker with electronics a lot. Do a lot of soldering and messing around with small parts. So I am very familiar with the chemical and metallic fumes released by heat. The smell from the Starry is not a good one. Perhaps it's the tape, or whatever wire is used to heat the oven. It's not off-gassing. I think it's metal. The battery itself when you take it out right after also has the smell. Makes me wonder if using a different battery might have different results (battery terminals get too hot when on? Higher current capacity needed?). At any rate, I gave up after a session and will now return it to POTV. It is a slick looking and feeling unit and super portable, that's for sure. But there is no way that whatever is being released by the heat is healthy.

    Just my .02
     
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  9. Chiron

    Chiron Well-Known Member

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    Hi Wushuliu, I am very sensitive to burning electronics odour - cannot stand it myself. I think it is the worst and I would rather eat rare chicken, which I also hate:) While you have it in hand, I would like to suggest that you keep trying the burn-outs. It took me many more sessions than I expected to finally get rid of the odour, as I posted above. Longer than many here have posted. The thing is, that having gotten to the point where I was satisfied with the lack of odour, I just cannot smell it at all, ever. In fact I just heated up the vape to 185C for 3 minutes for a quick test and could not smell anything except a trace of plant that survived my last quick clean :)

    Edit: and the Starry works so well for my needs - I really like it now.

    Cheers!
    Glen
     
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  10. Used2use

    Used2use Sometimes to stupid to become a fool

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    Good nose i would say :clap: - it looks to me like it has the similar problem like the fog, the insulation is degrading and emitting white dust over time :mad:.
    It even can be seen on the PIU teardown (the dusty carpet/insulation is 2. from the left) and the white stuff on the silicone ring on the right:

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    that pic is not sharp enough but it also looks like dust below the heater at the intake?

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    btw it would definitve make sense to do teardowns with a new and an used unit side by side, to see what changed...
     
  11. Wolvey

    Wolvey New Member

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    so keep doing burn offs til it doesnt smell?? I just got one of these things and that is one thing I noticed. I am new to the vaping and still unsure of the whole thing

    should i buy something else?
     
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  12. Chiron

    Chiron Well-Known Member

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    Yes, that is the plan i think. I would not recommend running it empty at a high temperature for too long a time though. Maybe mix it up a bit with some low, some high, some off time instead of 10 minutes straight at 240 or some such torture. I did a lot of runs with mine.
     
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  13. Wolvey

    Wolvey New Member

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    I did about 4 or 5 of them, gradually increasing the temp until it was maxed on the last one. all 5 minutes.

    I think Im going to pack a little bit in now and see how it tastes?

    edit: I did one more burn off at a lower temp (400). Like...what should I smell when its "okay"? nothing??
     
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  14. Chiron

    Chiron Well-Known Member

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    Yeah nothing :) I got mine there eventually. I really hate that burned or heated electronics smell and I believe the chemical is bad for health. As an electrician, I cannot stand the odour of a burned transformer etc. and get it out of my shop ASAP:) I thought I might have to give upon mine, but no,,,, the smell did go away.
     
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  15. Wolvey

    Wolvey New Member

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    yup 100% a health issue

    I could honestly care less how anything smells or tastes... as long as its supposed to be like that! but if its not,, and its unhealthy I cant go for that..noo no can do
     
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  16. Used2use

    Used2use Sometimes to stupid to become a fool

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    Well vapor is supposed to taste only like the herb u put in and nothing else :whoa: - and honestly there are other vapes out there that leave less doubt about that just by looking at the construction/airpath...
    And i would always go for max temp with burnOFFs otherwise it would be more like a burn-in ;)
     
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  17. Wolvey

    Wolvey New Member

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    whats a burn in
     
  18. Used2use

    Used2use Sometimes to stupid to become a fool

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    some things like eg the glue from the tape that holds the temp sensor might get only heated to a melting point at lower temps but not to evaporate off
     
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  19. Chiron

    Chiron Well-Known Member

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    Hi guys, I bought into the concept that heating the unit's internals beyond what could be considered reasonable operating conditions (empty, extended high temp) might harm it or cause additional internal stuff to burn in or off.

    This one is best for out and about, so it won't get used as much. Maybe a good thing?
     
  20. His_Highness

    His_Highness In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king

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    IMO - The burn-off for a new vape should be done at the highest temp the vape was manufactured to reach. Every vape I've ever owned got a series of burn-offs that way. Even if the vape didn't have a taste or smell issue to start off with doing a burn-off at max temp for the life of a battery or charge can be a way of testing battery life, how hot the vape can get and expose other potential issues.

    Mouth pumping (drawing on a vape but only filling your mouth and not inhaling) during burn-offs is a good way to expose smell and taste issues without exposing your lungs. Sometimes off-gassing can be seen during a burn-off by pointing the beam from a flashlight, in a dark room, just above the oven with the oven/vape cap off.

    Some companies have a "short, no questions asked, return period" as well as normal warranty periods so it's best to stress test that vape when first received.

    I consider new electronic smell not to be an issue. Just for the record - I've got a couple Starry's and none of them had a taste or smell issue.
     
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  21. wushuliu

    wushuliu New Member

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    I'm glad it's not an issue for some. I returned my unit and am now waiting for the refund. The good news is that dealing with the Starry inspired me to research how to open up my old Davinci (Classic) Vaporizer. It was easier than I expected, so I gave it a good and thorough internal cleaning. Now it's performing great again and I no longer feel the need to get a new vape.
     
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  22. Simon Moker

    Simon Moker New Member

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    Btw any of you guys had a look at the new grey starry?
     
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  23. GreenJeans_55

    GreenJeans_55 Active Member

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    Mine is a black, the Starry.

    It was my first dry herb vaporizer, it does the job but ya only get 2 tasty draws and after that not much flavor. Its an ok backup, will get u there but not the best for high grade inserts.
     
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  24. Jimmyweaese

    Jimmyweaese Well-Known Member

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    Never heard of gray.
    I get good taste. But Flowermate is way cleaner smell after a couple loads.
     

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