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Why can't I get the same "high" than I used to get?

Discussion in 'Vaporization Discussion' started by TheFatBastard, Jun 19, 2018.

  1. TheFatBastard

    TheFatBastard Active Member

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    Thanks a lot for all the replies, I'm overwhelmed!

    Yesterday, as an experiment, I did a very short session, 0.3/0.4g maybe, just 5 or six puffs in 20 minutes...and I got a very nice high, not so "high" (almost psychedelic ) as I used to get in my first sessions, but I think maybe that is the way....the high lasted like 3 hours, and was very nice.

    As I said, I only vape once a week, maybe two (friday and saturday night), and I've got nice highs with my V-Tower Vape and the different strains I've used. Maybe I was trying to get that psychedelic high by using more weed, or vaping harder, and that gets me stoned.

    My favourite high is when I put a nice music concert (btw, The Cure "Show" is my favourite!!! You guys should give it a try) and can concentrate in the music and images, feeling and hearing each instrument separately and hearing almost in 3D...sometimes I could feel I was literally there, watching the concert live.

    I'm a music freak, and flowers improve the experience dramatically!!!!
     
  2. Silver420Surfer

    Silver420Surfer Well-Known Member

    Strain switching is probably one of the biggest factors to help keep tolerance in check.
     
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  3. Diggy Smalls

    Diggy Smalls Notorious

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    Dude, I love listening to that album stone sober, but it's amazing when I'm high. I love listening to music when I'm vaping. I love getting a mixture of live and studio music in my listening session, but some albums are worth listening to straight through from start to finish, and this is one. I love listening to Disintegration start to finish as well.
    Cannabis makes everything better for me, so yeah it makes music better, too. The experience, anyway.
     
  4. TheFatBastard

    TheFatBastard Active Member

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    I think maybe my problem is a problem of "puff timming".

    I've also ordered a precission scale to check exactly how many flowers am I using in each session. How many grams do you usually use in a vaping session if you wanna get real high?

    And.....What do you guys think about the possible effect of using the bong with the V-Tower???
     
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  5. TheFatBastard

    TheFatBastard Active Member

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    I've been tempted to get an e-nail, I even thought about the Sublimator.....but sincerely, I only vape one or two days a week, and I know I can get very good highs from the V-Tower. Also, I don't use any oils, just flowers, so I don't think I can justify the money for the use....

    But, damn.....I really like new toys! :cool:
     
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  6. Alexis

    Alexis Well-Known Member

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    You dont need to feel that way about the Flowerpot and not using oil. The FP stands as arguably the best flower only vaporizer (showerhead) but has the ability to do oils as well, seperately or together. It is an amazing vaporizer and the quality, fullness and pure enjoyment of the effects would greatly exceed the V tower.
    If you come into an inheritance, it would be worthwhild even if you vaped oncd a month, to at the very least elevate that special expereince to a level (somewhat) nearer to which it deserves.
     
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  7. TheFatBastard

    TheFatBastard Active Member

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    [​IMG]

    OMG....I've been reading more about the Flowerpot....and I'm feeling like I need it.

    This is all I need (plus my 18mm Mobius bong) , right?: https://vapefiend.co.uk/collections/e-nails/products/flowerpot-twax-starter-kit

    Anyway, I'm afraid to buy it and experience the same issues than with the V-Tower after some months...

    I got REALLY NICE highs with the V-Tower.....
     
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  8. TheFatBastard

    TheFatBastard Active Member

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    I don't have any access to concentrates, but I grow my own weed ;)
     
  9. TheFatBastard

    TheFatBastard Active Member

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    :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
     
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  10. Seek

    Seek Apprentice Daydreamer

    I think it's either a tolerance issue or a different strain.
    Try a T-break and don't vape more than once a day if you want to get a high like one of the first times.
    If you vape often or high doses, you will get a tolerance and then next time you will only get a meh sedative high, not the trippy one like without tolerance.

    If it won't work, try to get mroe sativa dominant strain.
     
  11. TheFatBastard

    TheFatBastard Active Member

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    Thanks!

    I usually only vape once a week as I said, I don't really think it is a tolerance problem....

    I've been using 4 diffrent strains in the last 2 months, some highs have been better than others, but I'm not able to get that kind of high again, I don't know if it is because I've changed the technique....but I've found out that with little dosage I get a nice little high (not like the high I used too, but nice), but if I continue vaping searching for that "more powerful high" I get sleepy and melt in the couch....
     
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  12. asdf420

    asdf420 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, maybe try sativa flower that isn't too old, not harvested more than a month or two ago. Or sativa concentrate.
    I dunno, that's what i'm gonna try next. maybe it's all futile. I'm having pretty much the same problem. I vaped a lot of several-months-old but recently opened sativa flower and it just put me to sleep. As did a GSC edible..

    though the flower had white trichomes, apparently none amber as far as i could see, it had been exposed to light for months.

    With weekly tolerance, I would only need a few puffs from a vapcap to get melted into the bed
     
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  13. Ricardo

    Ricardo Well-Known Member

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    I love this answer. I used to be so lightweight it was embarrassing... Now I'm having to budget!
    I usually have my T break on summer vacation, but I think a 72 hour mini T break is called for. Just have to schedule it in ;)
     
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  14. KeroZen

    KeroZen Chronic vapaholic

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    That's a lot of material to only get 6 puff really! Were you using that much when you began?

    According to polls about quantities we had in the past, I think your 0.4g would be between 3 and 10 bowls/sessions for the majority of our members!
     
  15. TheFatBastard

    TheFatBastard Active Member

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    No, I did that on purpose, put a lot of material and take big puffs in a long lapse of time, trying to get a big psychedelic high.

    When I started vaping, I used to pack the elbow with the Extreme Q, that's like 0.1g, and I used it for a whole session, 2/3 hours, like 20 big long puffs or even more....

    I guess 0.1 is an ideal quantity for a session, but sincerely, I don't really know when the material is "wasted", I used to continue puffing until no vapour comes out of the weed....

    Any suggestions about quantities to use for a session???

    Maybe 2 bowls of 0.05 instead of just one of 0.1???
     
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  16. EverythingsHazy

    EverythingsHazy Well-Known Member

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    Splitting one large bowl into two smaller ones gives you more fresh hits, which is nice for enjoying the flavor.

    If your session is lasting 2-3 hours, that’s probably why you’re not getting the high you want. I find that if you prolong a session for too long, you start to experience tolerance and diminishing returns.
     
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  17. TheFatBastard

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    Thanks for the info!

    I don't really know what has changed in my vaping sessions, but as I said, the highs have changed.

    When I got the Ddave mod for the Extreme Q and a water bong to use with the Extreme, I though it would improve the experience...but it really has not. I'm also thinking that maybe the bong is affecting somehow to the quantity of THC I'm getting from the flowers.

    Still experimenting, any ideas are welcome!
     
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  18. Zow237

    Zow237 Well-Known Member

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    its very simple. stop using... come back and only use once in a long while. That is the only way to get the high back. We will oversaturate these receptors and the body just becomes used to it. Quit for a few weeks, months, years, the longer you go without the more intense the experience will be. Itd be the same way for just about everything (caffeine,nicotine, alcohol or any other drug). our bodies are very adaptive and will counter that high after the continuous use. the body is super smart :)\so.... if i drank wine once a week and drank the same amount for years itd still build up a tolerance.... would it not? So it seems that just using once a week for a long period of time can build up a tolerance and would require not using at all for however long itd take? also have to take individual variance as well... i noticed when i lost weight and was much more skinny than i was used to that I wasnt getting as high as i used to. so many variables too that go into something like this. Something life changing could have happened and itd change up exactly how you respond to getting high. Just throwing my 2 cents out there
     
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    Zow237 Well-Known Member

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    delete
     
  20. Mookie0608

    Mookie0608 Active Member

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    Been vaping for 3 months now and I ask the same thing. It’s tolerance. Plus I’m finding out that I only get the buzz high on my first vape with my purple Urkel after that’s it’s very minor if at all and mostly re vaping all night long there’s no buzz and it’s just a more stringer intense body high feeling heavy and dreamy.
     
  21. Jill NYC

    Jill NYC Portable Collector

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    What helps for me:
    Rotating my vapes. I think anyone who vapes daily will benefit by having more than one vape.
    Rotating strains (when possible) also helps keep that plateau at bay.
    I don’t use water a lot, so when I break out the water tool that will sometimes take things up a notch.
    Or if none of that is helping, I will take at least 2 days off. Once I start again, I will start at a lower dosage (like 2-3 hits) and wait 15-30 minutes to see effects. I rarely remember to check after 30 minutes b/c I broke past that plateau.:whoa:
     
  22. Ramahs

    Ramahs Fucking Combustion (mostly) Since February 2017

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    Concentrates can get me there...but I just save them for the weekends because I want to keep my tolerance in check.

    Also, as I think others here have said...you should work on microdosing. Practicing using as small an amount as possible to get you to a comfortable high. Remember, vapor can take longer to fully kick in than smoke. I feel like, while smoke hits me almost fully in 3-5 minutes, vapor takes more like 15 minutes to fully "kick-in". In other words, take a smaller amount than you think you'll need, and wait 10-15 minutes, then re-evaluate. You may be surprised how little is required to get to "good" with a little experience.
     
  23. TastyClouds

    TastyClouds Well-Known Member

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    Its your tolerance my friend. If you want to unlock those stronger effects you described, you need to have more active cannabinoid receptors available in your brain to make the most out of the herb you inhale.

    The key is keeping your tolerance low, which takes discipline. You will want to keep reaching those strong level 10 highs where you can be almost overwhelmingly high, but it is simply not sustainable long term without increasing use and raising tolerance. The best way to feel that again is to take a tolerance break of at least 2 weeks to reset your tolerance and allow those receded cannabinoid receptors to grow back and then have 1 sesh where you get super blown and enjoy those effects to the fullest (a reward for your discipline). After that, the fork in the road is either you...

    A- Go back to daily or frequent use, being content with a higher tolerance and only being able to get "normal highs" which are still enjoyable, but not the high as Elephant balls feeling that all of us have known and loved.

    Or B- Keep a strict routine of when how often you let yourself partake to maintain a low tolerance to be able to feel those strong effects on a semi- frequent basis. This would probably be around once every 5-7 days, but man would you be feeling good especially with some good tunes and food. :o
     
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  24. Ramahs

    Ramahs Fucking Combustion (mostly) Since February 2017

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    I have no interest in t-breaks. I just use less when my tolerance gets higher, work on my microdosing habits, etc...till I get my tolerance where I want it.

    But...I do tend to prefer to maintain an average high through the day, not be on an up and down roller. I'll do it sometimes, but more just on my days off, like the weekend and holidays. That's when I break out the high-potency stuff.
     
  25. stonedbob

    stonedbob 100% THC

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