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What's your favorite torch or lighter to use with the Vapcap?

Discussion in 'Ask FC' started by Mr. Me2, Dec 10, 2016.

  1. beyond6strings

    beyond6strings Just another traveller in the Dynaverse

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    I found a 3 pack for $16 on Amazon and snagged that. Thanks for the heads up @cybrguy. They'll come in handy when I get my Cocobolo Omnivap this weekend.
     
  2. Diggy Smalls

    Diggy Smalls Notorious

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    I use the triple inline lighter that dynavap sells. Though, I had to tweak it slightly to actually get it to work. I prefer the triple inline style because they happen to line up perfectly with the size of the Cap, and it's fast but not too fast. Sometimes I turn the lighter so the flames go sideways and concentrate in one area. I do that right at the base sometimes for part of my heating cycle when I want it darker. I do it sometimes like that until it clicks but it doesn't taste great and doesn't seem as efficient.
    I would love to have a more reliable torch.
     
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  3. stickstones

    stickstones Vapor concierge

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    Tested about 6 lighters so far and found my game changer!

    The Vertigo Tron!

    Click to play YouTube Video
     
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  4. beyond6strings

    beyond6strings Just another traveller in the Dynaverse

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    @stickstones great video. I could see picking one of these up now. Thx.
     
  5. MinnBobber

    MinnBobber Well-Known Member

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    Nice video.
    How is the ABV color as you can't do a 360 heatup , the digger gets in the way?
    My ABV seems to come out very uneven, even with a full 360 heatup.
     
  6. beyond6strings

    beyond6strings Just another traveller in the Dynaverse

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    @MinnBobber That's surprising. I've used both three torch and single torch lighters and the one consistent thing I've always gotten from my Omnivap is consistently roasted ABV. It's frigging gorgeous-way more consistent than I get from my Milaana.

    It's funny how we can use the same devices and get quite different experiences.
     
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  7. stickstones

    stickstones Vapor concierge

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    Flawless. I think the consistency in heating this thing allows me to get more even heating than when I get it all the way around using my unsteady hands. This was the load from that video. I use nugs, so I crumbled it, hit it once more on high and took that pic.

    [​IMG]
     
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  8. MinnBobber

    MinnBobber Well-Known Member

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    I have consistent difficulty with my VCs, lol.
    I use in bathroom with subdued lighting to better see the exact flame shape, have tried 3/2/1 flame torches, listen intently, have never knowingly gone beyond heatup clicks, gave up on using outdoors at all, have tried many a "hand adapter" to spin better, yet combustion still happens way too much,

    So when I see these posts that say it's almost impossible to combust if you respect the click and folks go 2 -3 secs beyond the click with no probs ...... I just sigh and think wtf
     
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  9. Squiby

    Squiby Well-Known Member

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    In two years I've never combusted. But I've come close and its always been with bone dry weed. On the other hand bud that has been stored in jars with Boveda packs only ever vape to a caramel brown.

    Might your bud be on the dry side?
     
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  10. beyond6strings

    beyond6strings Just another traveller in the Dynaverse

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    @MinnBobber that really sucks. Sorry to hear that. If it was me I'd contact George at Dynavap. Their customer service is off the charts.
     
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  11. stickstones

    stickstones Vapor concierge

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    how many caps do you have?
     
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  12. MinnBobber

    MinnBobber Well-Known Member

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    I have several caps and have swapped around. I try and then take a break from it, to try again some other time.
    Maybe I'll try again tonight??

    I have good dexterity, have never broken any of my many glass pieces or adapters (vs Ataxian who I see jumped right in at 100% on his new VC--- good for him who I was guessing would have some or great difficulty ), and I do have poor hearing BUT have very good hearing aids and have even played with different settings. I keep moving forward in baby steps like:

    - too short to fit good in hand, so got XL. Better. Still wants to "Walk" in my palm when spun :myday:

    - need lighter in right hand and left has one bad finger which cramps my style a little :) so use F/M glass adapter in my left palm (VC in male end of it). It has 30? degree bend so sits in palm easily and slippery for easier spinning. :rofl:

    - got a few 3 flame torches first as those seemed popular. I could see the flames easily BUT with my hearing aids it sounded like I was pointing a F-18 jet turbine engine at it :cuss: So have been trying 2 flames and 1 which work much better to reduce the roar :nod:

    - even when it was good clean hits, my ABV came out with a lot of variance but maybe my standard is too high as my daily drivers (miniVAP and Herbalizer) give absolutely uniform ABV :science:

    I'm slowly working on it, no hurry, as it's likely a better fit for mobile use if my canna-noid (cannabis paranoid) state of MN ever gets the guts to legalize (only state legislature can make it legal--no citizen ballot law change).

    I'm in no way dissing them as they work very good to great for most people. Great design.

    I did put my name on a waiting list for induction heater BUT that is half -hearted as if I wanted an electric portable, I'd get one from the factory. "Reluctant" order but probably what I need to reach :clap: level ????

    My bud is all stored with 62% Bovedas so should be perfect. All fresh loaded from there, tiny calyxes plucked with tweezers.
    Work in progress
     
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  13. ataxian

    ataxian PALE BLUE DOT

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    I got a "M" from VAP CAP that came with a lighter that work's pretty good.

    Too have your collection would be amazing!
    My dexterity was incredible until 47 then is got weird?

    MEDICAL CANNABIS is very modern thinking!
     
  14. JetHead

    JetHead Well-Known Member

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    I started with cheap (<$10) torches from convenience and gas station. When they both stopped igniting after refilling with decent fuel, I bought a Xikar Stratosphere for about $25 (http://www.xikar.com/products/lighters/stratosphere/). It's been a much more reliable and higher quality lighter. Single adjustable flame. Ignites 95% of the time and when it doesn't it means I didn't bleed it enough before refilling. I'm a moderate cannabis consumer and typically enjoy 3-6 Vapcapfulls each night. Usually takes less than 20 seconds to heat the first cycle (typically low temp/top of cap heating) and then 10-15 seconds for the second (mid-cap heating) cycle and about the same for third cycle. I don't often get a fourth cycle that is palatable for my preferences.

    I find that higher temp cycles can take a bit longer to heat. The only issue is that it can get quite hot holding the button down for the hotter temp cycles. Too hot for me to continue to hold down the button until cap clicks. This is a solid lighter and well worth the $25-30.

    I'm looking for a dual or triple flame next. Leaning toward the Xikar Tech (dual or triple) as I appreciate the quality of the the Stratosphere.
     
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  15. oddjobold

    oddjobold 510 Vaporist

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    To report back this more expensive lighter seems a lot more reliable. Happy with my purchase. Will buy some quality gas next.
     
  16. Ramahs

    Ramahs Fucking Combustion (mostly) Since February 2017

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  17. cybrguy

    cybrguy I mean really, WTF

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    Can't imagine what would make it worth $50. It looks much like all the other $10 torches. I'm not slamming it, I have never seen it, just wondering why the cost.
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  18. JetHead

    JetHead Well-Known Member

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    As someone who bought two $10 lighters (both failed within days) and then $30 two weeks later for a better one to replace them and $15 for a quality fuel and just dropped another $40 last night for a dual flame I bet I would pay $50 for that lighter... which I probably just should've done in the first place.

    Much better quality materials. Rarely misfires or won't ignite. Very powerful flame(s).
     
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  19. shredder

    shredder Well-Known Member

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    Next to pipe's ih heaters the tron is my go to. Love the flame spacing cause it seems to get consistant great heat ups. The only con I see, it's a bit heavy, and the site window is limited, although it feels great in my hand. I seem to get a lot of heat ups per charge, so I assume it's easy on butane.
     
  20. Ramahs

    Ramahs Fucking Combustion (mostly) Since February 2017

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    Well, the word seems to be that it fires, reliably, for years and years. It has a unique spark system that wont degrade. It also has a switch on the side that locks the flame on, hands free.
     
  21. Mr.Sifter

    Mr.Sifter Well-Known Member

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    i think i will order the cyclone2 or the venom2 directly from dynavap.
     
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  22. Used2use

    Used2use Sometimes to stupid to become a fool

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    out of curiosity - what source do u refer to? - there are torches that look exactly the same for 5$...
     
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  23. cybrguy

    cybrguy I mean really, WTF

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    Back in Oct folks were talking about that torch too. My point is only that all the torches in my "box o fire" work well to excellently and other than the anteater Zico (which was probably $12 or so) and the Jobon I recently got from Lotus (about the same) all of them were under $10 and a couple under $4.
    [​IMG]

    Now, what I can't tell you is how long they will last as I have only been buying them since 2014, but several of these I have had most of that time. And only some really cheap ones (not shown) have died early when I was using shitty butane.
     
  24. Used2use

    Used2use Sometimes to stupid to become a fool

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    i only had real bad luck with a cheap 5 pack of atomic lighters - all piezos died after maybe 20 sparks :goon:
    ...so i bought almost any other cheapo brand model from china (twice :rolleyes: ), yea i'm addicted but i stopped buying after realizing that i have more torches than i can fill with a full can of butane :evil:
    So far i would say for single torches the 3 $ vapman torch clone is very good (mine is branded Honest)
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/1pc-color-...504406&hash=item4b252f27b2:g:AosAAOSwKM9Zrlp0
     
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  25. Squiby

    Squiby Well-Known Member

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    I have had very good luck with the Honest brand lighters (I have a few different models), as well as the Aomai cylinder flint single jet lighter.

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/Jet-Flame-...993030?hash=item2c837438c6:g:P5oAAOxyeZNTU~O3

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/Honest-Lig...438492?hash=item3d41e3935c:g:atYAAOSwb3lZcK0C

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/HONEST-met...815177?hash=item2ef3fb1989:g:dp8AAOSw-kdXzTt~

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/Great-Gift...197379&hash=item1c37844bd9:g:FOIAAOxyYTRSU5GI

    And my favorite...

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/Honest-Sky...396465?hash=item1c9c3e0cb1:g:kYMAAOSwiIxaQfES
     

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