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What makes cannabis medical?

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I haven't attacked anybody..Alcohol just can't be worth the breathe it takes to argue it medically valuable..a hangover from drinking is JUST the complete opposite of health wise..as I repeat myself again, there is no fatal dose of Marijuana that will wrot your organs to death...which proves it's medical value..it Just Won't Kill You

My next signature will probably be "Opiate, alcohol, crack and heroin heads really screw it for potheads
 
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We are all adults I hope, so I guess we will have to decide for ourselves what's medical and what works to treat our conditions. It's really sometimes trial and error. It's important to keep track.

People are commenting on the thread but nobody knows what some of us are going through and how much cannabis we use. Its really too difficult for some to comment about others and say what's good for them.

It's fine to have a comment and opinions but attacks aren't OK.

Opinions on the net are like shopping for fruit, you select what you want and pass on the rest.
 

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It may have medicinal properties, but I don't consider all consumption to be medical use. Lots of fruits have anti-oxidants and other beneficial chemicals, but I don't consider eating fruit to be medical use. If you are taking it just for that purpose, and not because you want the buzz, then possibly. Otherwise, I'd say it's recreational use with potentially beneficial, medical side-effects.


I wouldn't say that. Alcohol can help ease physical and psychological pain, as well as removing anxiety/stress, all of which are reasons people use Cannabis.

They are also both psychoactive, so they are very much comparable.
it is great we can enjoy our medicine hey? who says all medicine needs to taste bad or hold your nose while you take etc... most people come to realize that their use of cannabis can be healthy use or that they enjoy the high but also notice that they have less pain with use etc... better bathroom experience etc... everything you do is a medical act! breathing = 100 % medicine... we are holding off death as much as possible and every act either affirms your life or denies it...

sorry for double post couldnt find the quote button...

this is true... maybe today we know more strains than what even existed before (lets say 1000 years ago) so maybe were going through some sort of second golden age of cannabis... but who knows maybe they did have things like Kush, Haze 10000 years ago?

The monks in the Himalayan mountains cultivated cannabis from a High State of existence! In other words they were seeking enlightenment and not escape.. the breeders who breed IT will determine the outcome of the strains and effects from said strains... think brick weed and the consciousness that led to that stuff... it was not enlightened monks. LOL
I don't know what you're yelling about. If you are saying that consuming alcohol to calm anxiety isn't medical use because a doctor wouldn't prescribe it, then what I said said is correct.

Do you consider eating fruit with antioxidants to be medical use of fruit, even if that isn't the main reason the person is eating the fruit and they are just snacking because it tastes/feels good to do so?

some things we either participate fully in or don't... just because we do not know what is happening does not mean it's not.... the dumbest most stupid person in the world could learn to levitate just because they might want to do that... just the desire to do so negates all knowledge just straight desire
 

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poisons also are "medical" some kinds of disease can be treated with small amounts of poison that will up the immune system to fight the disease, i cant quote an exact source but... i believe that

or just as a too large dose of most drugs is poisonous... alcohol is near barbiturates en benzodiazepines in its effects its just a more simple molecule weve been using for very long too, doesnt mean its bad or safe its still a drug,

but the medicinal use of alcohol would be as a pain killer (the shot the give before an amputation at war)
 

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I do not know if anyone here has looked into the Dogon tribe from Africa and cannabis but it is fascinating stuff! I read the Syrius mystery book years back when I thought cannabis was a horrible people eater and would not touch the stuff... I looked past the cannabis references then but now find it quite interesting...

Why I bring this up,one of the main points noted from their knowledge and understanding is.... cannabis is the only plant on our world that can potentiate human gene expression! those tribal people knew of bio-mimicry and cannabis is their main crop... anyway, I recommend learning about them just because they are Space Brothers, LOL
 

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I do not know if anyone here has looked into the Dogon tribe from Africa and cannabis but it is fascinating stuff! I read the Syrius mystery book years back when I thought cannabis was a horrible people eater and would not touch the stuff... I looked past the cannabis references then but now find it quite interesting...

Why I bring this up,one of the main points noted from their knowledge and understanding is.... cannabis is the only plant on our world that can potentiate human gene expression! those tribal people knew of bio-mimicry and cannabis is their main crop... anyway, I recommend learning about them just because they are Space Brothers, LOL

Cannabis is alien life.
"we come in peace"

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poisons also are "medical" some kinds of disease can be treated with small amounts of poison that will up the immune system to fight the disease, i cant quote an exact source but... i believe that

or just as a too large dose of most drugs is poisonous... alcohol is near barbiturates en benzodiazepines in its effects its just a more simple molecule weve been using for very long too, doesnt mean its bad or safe its still a drug,

but the medicinal use of alcohol would be as a pain killer (the shot the give before an amputation at war)
Well that just means marijuana is better because more can be used with less threatening side effects and so obliterates all competitions medical value
 
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I don't know why people seem to think that Cannabis is more special than any other plant, in terms of it's connection to the human species. It isn't. It evolved to suit itself, and just so happens to have some beneficial effects on us, when consumed. Many other plants have wonderful medicinal qualities, and aren't given the same worshiping treatment by the Cannabis loving community. How many berries have amazing health benefits, such as antioxidants and such? Nobody grabs a bowl of berries and says, "I'm taking my meds", or "Look at these delicious meds". That would sound pretty dumb.

cannabis is the only plant on our world that can potentiate human gene expression!
Do you have a source for that? There are so many plants that haven't been studied to the same extent as Cannabis, and even more that haven't even been discovered, yet. I wouldn't be surprised if other species could do the same, or similar things.

it is great we can enjoy our medicine hey? who says all medicine needs to taste bad or hold your nose while you take etc... most people come to realize that their use of cannabis can be healthy use or that they enjoy the high but also notice that they have less pain with use etc... better bathroom experience etc... everything you do is a medical act! breathing = 100 % medicine... we are holding off death as much as possible and every act either affirms your life or denies it...
It definitely is great that a beneficial plant like Cannabis can be enjoyed with relative safety.
some things we either participate fully in or don't... just because we do not know what is happening does not mean it's not.... the dumbest most stupid person in the world could learn to levitate just because they might want to do that... just the desire to do so negates all knowledge just straight desire
When I said I don't consider all use to be "medical use", I don't mean that all use doesn't have the same effects on our health. I meant that the purpose of said use, isn't necessarily always medical, particularly in the cases I mentioned. Percocet always alleviates pain, but taking it for fun is more "recreation use" than "medical use", imo.

As for levitating...huh? :hmm:
 
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Nobody grabs a bowl of berries and says, "I'm taking my meds", or "Look at these delicious meds". That would sound pretty dumb.
Wats prune juice known for?...and as for levitating, weird that you mentioned it but I just had a dream where I was levitating this morning. I tend to dream of levitating and hovering a lot. Sometimes I'm making leaps and bounds like the Hulk. I think I was even Gohan one time.
 
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Folks categorize cannabis as medicine because we need to get a medical certification to use it in over 50% of the states.
We need to gather up all our blood tests, dr appts, X-rays, MRIs, hospital and doctor clinic notes and take them in to someone so they can authorize a medical card for us to carry. It's only legally sold as medication in the medical cannabis only states.

When I was younger I strictly used cannabis "recreationally". I didn't even know how great it was for different medical problems until I got older.
The largest increase in cannabis use has been the older population because it helps with many types of health issues related to aging.

I'm using some RSO which is strictly for medicinal reasons.
 
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I don't know why people seem to think that Cannabis is more special than any other plant, in terms of it's connection to the human species. It isn't. It evolved to suit itself, and just so happens to have some beneficial effects on us, when consumed. Many other plants have wonderful medicinal qualities, and aren't given the same worshiping treatment by the Cannabis loving community. How many berries have amazing health benefits, such as antioxidants and such? Nobody grabs a bowl of berries and says, "I'm taking my meds", or "Look at these delicious meds". That would sound pretty dumb.

Do you have a source for that? There are so many plants that haven't been studied to the same extent as Cannabis, and even more that haven't even been discovered, yet. I wouldn't be surprised if other species could do the same, or similar things.


It definitely is great that a beneficial plant like Cannabis can be enjoyed with relative safety.

When I said I don't consider all use to be "medical use", I don't mean that all use doesn't have the same effects on our health. I meant that the purpose of said use, isn't necessarily always medical, particularly in the cases I mentioned. Percocet always alleviates pain, but taking it for fun is more "recreation use" than "medical use", imo.

As for levitating...huh? :hmm:
more special= more constituent parts than any other plant, many more parts in fact... those parts represent potential or biological information that can be tailored to specific ratios that benefit human life... what makes the cannabis more special is all of the bio-actives and all of its parts. in words from doctors etc... "it is the most biologically active substance known to man...." not my words, words from the professionals that I am learning this stuff from..

bio-mimicry of human the human genome= Source= Dogon tribe as posted in original post... those Dudes

and because we are on the fast train to death and anything we do stalls that or increases that... cannabis use decreases it, simple as that and levitation is True Freedom from your earthly chains, try it some time
 
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It's not really just a hobby as much as it is a ritual as well.. The flowers die for us so that we shall have eternal life on Earth as it is in Heaven.
 

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Relieves pain-
Marijuana has been associated with pain relief for centuries. Researchers have found the cannabinoids in marijuana dampen pain signals by binding to the pain receptors in the central nervous system (CNS).

Inflammation relief-
People not only rate cannabis sativa L. highly because of its intoxicating effects; it has also long been used as a medicinal plant. Although the plant has been scrutinized for years, surprising new aspects keep cropping up. For example, researchers from ETH Zurich and Bonn University examined a component in the plant’s essential oil that until then had largely been ignored and found it to have remarkable pharmacological effects. The findings open up interesting perspectives, especially for the prevention and treatment of inflammations.

Completely different molecule structure
The cannabis plant contains over 450 different substances, only three of which are responsible for its intoxicating effect. They activate the two receptors in the body CB1 and CB2. Whilst the CB1 receptor in the central nervous system influences perception, the CB2 receptor in the tissue plays a crucial role in inhibiting inflammation. If the receptor is activated, the cell releases fewer pro-inflammatory signal substances.

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Ive had arthritis for several years. I used the medications that the doctors told me to take. The medications over the years weaken my kidneys. When I use NSAIDS or any anti inflammatory my kidney function goes down. If I just use cannabis for pain and inflammation my kidneys act normally. That's why I use cannabis for my ongoing arthritis and every day pain and discomfort.
 
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I don't know why people seem to think that Cannabis is more special than any other plant, in terms of it's connection to the human species. It isn't. It evolved to suit itself, and just so happens to have some beneficial effects on us, when consumed. Many other plants have wonderful medicinal qualities, and aren't given the same worshiping treatment by the Cannabis loving community. How many berries have amazing health benefits, such as antioxidants and such? Nobody grabs a bowl of berries and says, "I'm taking my meds", or "Look at these delicious meds". That would sound pretty dumb.

Cannabis is definitely a special plant in that it interacts with our innate endocannabinoid system like no other plant does, through our specialized CB-1 and CB-2 receptors, found mostly in the brain, immune, and nervous systems. There may even be more receptors to be discovered, in the future.

Each time a cannabinoid (or terpenoid) interacts with a receptor, a chemical signal is created, coded and activated, with specific instructions, to carry out a biological function in parts of the body that are out of balance. The cannabinoids (and some terpenes) from cannabis just happen to "fit" perfectly into our receptors, like a 3D molecular puzzle, (coincidence?, I think not!!). They work much like the endocannabinoids that the body produces, like anandamide (which acts much like THC and binds to the CB-1 receptors) and 2-Arachidonoylglyceroll (2-AG) (which acts much like CBD, and can bind to both CB-1 and CB-2 receptors).

All types of cannabinoids and terpenes are involved in the regulation and balance of pretty much every major system in the human body, including appetite, immune system functions and pain management, among countless others. All working together, to fight the cause (not the symptoms), of all kinds of health problems and diseases.
 
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Opinions on the net are like shopping for fruit, you select what you want and pass on the rest.
Actually, I have read that opinions & excuses are like a-holes, everyone has one, and they all stink.
Cannabis is definitely a special plant in that it interacts with our innate endocannabinoid system like no other plant does, through our specialized CB-1 and CB-2 receptors, found mostly in the brain, immune, and nervous systems. There may even be more receptors to be discovered, in the future.

Each time a cannabinoid (or terpenoid) interacts with a receptor, a chemical signal is created, coded and activated, with specific instructions, to carry out a biological function in parts of the body that are out of balance. The cannabinoids (and some terpenes) from cannabis just happen to "fit" perfectly into our receptors, like a 3D molecular puzzle, (coincidence?, I think not!!). They work much like the endocannabinoids that the body produces, like anandamide (which acts much like THC and binds to the CB-1 receptors) and 2-Arachidonoylglyceroll (2-AG) (which acts much like CBD, and can bind to both CB-1 and CB-2 receptors).

All types of cannabinoids and terpenes are involved in the regulation and balance of pretty much every major system in the human body, including appetite, immune system functions and pain management, among countless others. All working together, to fight the cause (not the symptoms), of all kinds of health problems and diseases.
^I see this posted by many canna forums members who have no clue if the studies support that or not, because they do not know how to evaluate and understand the studies they read...assuming arguendo, they even bother to read the actual studies, rather than the more common cutNpaste from canna/blog/alt-med sites posting their own opinion pieces as though they are representing a factual assessment of those studies. I know herbivore21 knows this all too well, but doesn't often provide much useful guidance to the masses of those so misinformed on canna sites.

uh, forget the blue bold fanboisssmmm; quite obvious to me nicelytoasted is just 1/2 way in understanding what is written in the post above...much like many on this and other forums


It's not really just a hobby as much as it is a ritual as well.. The flowers die for us so that we shall have eternal life on Earth as it is in Heaven.
this is a medical forum, where specific advise is against the rules. Entertainment purposes, much like legal sites where all lawyers state their opinions and the specific this is not intended, nor should be taken as profession legal advise...seek such advise in person, same for doctors. Med discussion forum, not a religious zealot site, I don't care about religion when it comes to my health. I do not believe in Heaven, eternal life...gibberish. The thread topic doesn't ask why cannabis is medical because of ritual/religious beliefs, no science in that
 
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It's not really just a hobby as much as it is a ritual as well.. The flowers die for us so that we shall have eternal life on Earth as it is in Heaven.
this is a medical forum, where specific advise is against the rules. Entertainment purposes, much like legal sites where all lawyers state their opinions and the specific this is not intended, nor should be taken as profession legal advise...seek such advise in person, same for doctors. Med discussion forum, not a religious zealot site, I don't care about religion when it comes to my health. I do not believe in Heaven, eternal life...gibberish. The thread topic doesn't ask why cannabis is medical because of ritual/religious beliefs, no science in that
Clinical trials have tested the effects of marijuana on diseases such as HIV/AIDS, arthritis, glaucoma, cancer, attention deficit disorder/attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, neuropathy, seizures, bipolar disorder, Crohn’s disease, epilepsy, emotion regulation, restless leg syndrome, broken back/spinal cord injury, diabetes, hypertension, irritable bowel syndrome, multiple sclerosis, premenstrual dysphoric disorder, sciatica and recovery from surgery.

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I personally have five of the health problems listed above.
For folks that can't take antiinflammatories for pain there aren't any options out there except for natural remedies.
been used medically for thousands of yrs, all naturally derived...anti-inflamatory>>>gift of the god's to humans...huh? It's called aspirin.

Quoting that clinical trials have been performed, does not mean definitive, repeatable results have been obtained through multiple peer-reviewed studies...correct @herbivore21 ? I also have 5 + PSTD, & have had two family members die, where cannabis didn't do jack shit for them as they suffered & suffered in the failed healthcare delivery system. Studies are statistics, death is another statistic you don't read about later...when you die CarolKing, will you husband come on all the canna forums telling everyone how the MMJ did not save your life, cancer prevailed??? Not to be persnickety but cancer tumors shrink, not 'cancer'.

alcohol has no medical benefits? so *you* say, & you are all superior research scientists I should consider your views? I think not, I do not even subscribe to many "MD/PhD'" such as Dr Oz, Dr Mercola the quack, etc.

Drinking wine can fight diabetes: Regular glass can cut risk by a third say experts
http://www.express.co.uk/life-style/health/833913/diabetes-latest-drinking-alcohol-could-reduce-risk

"The findings come after researchers from Denmark’s National Institute of Public Health examined the effects of drinking frequency on risk and the association with different types."

Ya all think I should start a thread about today's study about increased risk of hypertension/death from cannabis use? ...ya all don't want to read about that, do you, doesn't fit with the cannabis is the sacred plant, mantra. Go read the study, read the counter that argument Dr's the find flaws with the methodology/conclusions, point out the flaws with those studies. Always I saw, don't believe what your read on the internet, follow as though you are choosing a surgeon to operate on your brain...the devil is in the details, with all scientific studies.
 
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alcohol improves fluidity inside the brain, i think it is partly because it drains the water inside the cells...
 
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CarolKing

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I was wrong about all alcohol. A glass a wine a day is good for some people. I'm biased a bit because my dad and my brother were both alcoholics and almost destroyed both their lives. My brother almost died in a car accident and he still was a drinker even after that. They both finally quit after 3/4 of their lives were mostly over.

@zenmasterofzinfandel i believe those studies on cannabis and heart disease was done with smoking our fave plant. I'm not a superior research scientist and never pretended to be one. Most of us don't smoke our flowers on the forum we vaporize or use cannabis oil as an edible.

I'm just trying to live my life and try to feel the best I can no matter what medical problems I'm dealing with. Cannabis seems to work well for me with less side effects since I'm limited as to what I can use. I'm unable to take aspirin or ibuprofen or anything that's an anti inflammatory, I stated that above. Others need to do what works for them - we are all different.
 
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more special= more constituent parts than any other plant, many more parts in fact... those parts represent potential or biological information that can be tailored to specific ratios that benefit human life... what makes the cannabis more special is all of the bio-actives and all of its parts. in words from doctors etc... "it is the most biologically active substance known to man...." not my words, words from the professionals that I am learning this stuff from..

bio-mimicry of human the human genome= Source= Dogon tribe as posted in original post... those Dudes

and because we are on the fast train to death and anything we do stalls that or increases that... cannabis use decreases it, simple as that and levitation is True Freedom from your earthly chains, try it some time
I wouldn't trust the Dogon tribe as a legitimate scientific source.

Do you have a link to the doctors that say that it's the most bioactive substance known to man? Or a link to a scientific source that says it has the most constituent parts out of every plant on Earth?

I think a lot of those superlatives are unlikely to be true. Also, being bioactive doesn't doesn't necessarily mean something is good (it just means that it has effects on living tissue), and having more chemicals doesn't automatically make something better, especially if not all of those chemicals have extensive, unbiased, medical research behind them.

Cannabis is definitely a special plant in that it interacts with our innate endocannabinoid system like no other plant does, through our specialized CB-1 and CB-2 receptors, found mostly in the brain, immune, and nervous systems. There may even be more receptors to be discovered, in the future.

Each time a cannabinoid (or terpenoid) interacts with a receptor, a chemical signal is created, coded and activated, with specific instructions, to carry out a biological function in parts of the body that are out of balance. The cannabinoids (and some terpenes) from cannabis just happen to "fit" perfectly into our receptors, like a 3D molecular puzzle, (coincidence?, I think not!!). They work much like the endocannabinoids that the body produces, like anandamide (which acts much like THC and binds to the CB-1 receptors) and 2-Arachidonoylglyceroll (2-AG) (which acts much like CBD, and can bind to both CB-1 and CB-2 receptors).

All types of cannabinoids and terpenes are involved in the regulation and balance of pretty much every major system in the human body, including appetite, immune system functions and pain management, among countless others. All working together, to fight the cause (not the symptoms), of all kinds of health problems and diseases.
Other plants have terpenes and chemicals that affect various receptors in our bodies.

It is no less a coincidence that cannabinoids affect our receptors and produce enjoyable results, than it is that toxins affect our bodies in negative ways.

Quoting that clinical trials have been performed, does not mean definitive, repeatable results have been obtained through multiple peer-reviewed studies...correct @herbivore21
Ya all think I should start a thread about today's study about increased risk of hypertension/death from cannabis use?


ya all don't want to read about that, do you, doesn't fit with the cannabis is the sacred plant, mantra. Go read the study, read the counter that argument Dr's the find flaws with the methodology/conclusions, point out the flaws with those studies. Always I saw, don't believe what your read on the internet, follow as though you are choosing a surgeon to operate on your brain...the devil is in the details, with all scientific studies.
On here, if you quote studies that show anything potentially negative about Cannabis, you'll get bombarded with hate and mocked for not following the trend of pretending Cannabis is the only plant in the world with insane beneficial effects and no negative ones, but if you quote studies that show anything possibly good about Cannabis, they'll be taken as fact, even if they are just correlations or anecdotes, which are, ironically, two of the main reasons people here blast studies that say anything negative.
 
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this is a medical forum, where specific advise is against the rules. Entertainment purposes, much like legal sites where all lawyers state their opinions and the specific this is not intended, nor should be taken as profession legal advise...seek such advise in person, same for doctors. Med discussion forum, not a religious zealot site, I don't care about religion when it comes to my health. I do not believe in Heaven, eternal life...gibberish. The thread topic doesn't ask why cannabis is medical because of ritual/religious beliefs, no science in that

been used medically for thousands of yrs, all naturally derived...anti-inflamatory>>>gift of the god's to humans...huh? It's called aspirin.

Quoting that clinical trials have been performed, does not mean definitive, repeatable results have been obtained through multiple peer-reviewed studies...correct @herbivore21 ? I also have 5 + PSTD, & have had two family members die, where cannabis didn't do jack shit for them as they suffered & suffered in the failed healthcare delivery system. Studies are statistics, death is another statistic you don't read about later...when you die CarolKing, will you husband come on all the canna forums telling everyone how the MMJ did not save your life, cancer prevailed??? Not to be persnickety but cancer tumors shrink, not 'cancer'.

alcohol has no medical benefits? so *you* say, & you are all superior research scientists I should consider your views? I think not, I do not even subscribe to many "MD/PhD'" such as Dr Oz, Dr Mercola the quack, etc.

Drinking wine can fight diabetes: Regular glass can cut risk by a third say experts
http://www.express.co.uk/life-style/health/833913/diabetes-latest-drinking-alcohol-could-reduce-risk

"The findings come after researchers from Denmark’s National Institute of Public Health examined the effects of drinking frequency on risk and the association with different types."

Ya all think I should start a thread about today's study about increased risk of hypertension/death from cannabis use? ...ya all don't want to read about that, do you, doesn't fit with the cannabis is the sacred plant, mantra. Go read the study, read the counter that argument Dr's the find flaws with the methodology/conclusions, point out the flaws with those studies. Always I saw, don't believe what your read on the internet, follow as though you are choosing a surgeon to operate on your brain...the devil is in the details, with all scientific studies.
I guess I maybe could see where you're coming from(not that I have much of a clue what you're trying to say)...but all I know is youre pretty full of it to think cannabis and Christianity arnt itertwined..they coin it "stoning" for reasons. Everything to do with it is ritual. You can deny a god if you want but not religion
 
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i think if we went on selective breeding with other herbs that have slight effects to increase their potency and diversify their taste we would end up with products that could be used recreationnaly because lavender would be so much funnier if it had 5x more psychoactive substances in it, and a taste of skunk
 

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So what's THC mean to you? :science:
JUS<THC? or JUS=THC? or JUS/THC? or JUS≥THC? etc...
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I posted this question in the news and activism section under "Cannabis, religion, America, feminism" because somehow it touches nerves either way
 
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Ok, looking at cannabis properties and what makes it medicine has led me to one of the biggest questions... how does decarboxylation work? in the cannabis community there is still the confusion... is heating cannabis better than Raw cannabis? Vaporizing cannabis quickly changes the natural plant derived bio-chemicals/compounds when we introduce the heat ( those carboxylic/oxidation changes happen naturally over time in harvested cannabis) and we leave those chemicals in tact when eating or juicing raw cannabis only to change the chemical structure upon assimilation in our bodies....

a few notes here... heat/time oxidizes... so in effect upon vaporization we are taking in oxidized activated molecules.. the level of heat/time etc determines the oxidation amounts..

I was Vegan for 4 or 5 years and Ate lots of Raw Food and learned then that oxidation (old food) is not always good for you but rather fresh living food is better... the enzymes though from raw food can cause intestinal distress so a balance of cooked and raw is best imo...

maybe that philosophy works with cannabis too, both live fresh-Raw and oxidized..

anyway, decarboxylation is still a fascinating area of research and leads me to wonder what other plant compounds etc... can be altered via decarboxylation/heat? We cook foods to change them chemically but usually lose so much beneficial stuff in the process too...




I wouldn't trust the Dogon tribe as a legitimate scientific source.

Do you have a link to the doctors that say that it's the most bioactive substance known to man? Or a link to a scientific source that says it has the most constituent parts out of every plant on Earth?

I think a lot of those superlatives are unlikely to be true. Also, being bioactive doesn't doesn't necessarily mean something is good (it just means that it has effects on living tissue), and having more chemicals doesn't automatically make something better, especially if not all of those chemicals have extensive, unbiased, medical research behind them.


Other plants have terpenes and chemicals that affect various receptors in our bodies.

It is no less a coincidence that cannabinoids affect our receptors and produce enjoyable results, than it is that toxins affect our bodies in negative ways.


On here, if you quote studies that show anything potentially negative about Cannabis, you'll get bombarded with hate and mocked for not following the trend of pretending Cannabis is the only plant in the world with insane beneficial effects and no negative ones, but if you quote studies that show anything possibly good about Cannabis, they'll be taken as fact, even if they are just correlations or anecdotes, which are, ironically, two of the main reasons people here blast studies that say anything negative.

ok man back to your inquiry... well of all the research I've gathered I have not been able to find the exact science reference going back to the 560 plus constituents.. still looking.. if you look at any article talking about cannabis it is known that there are 420 plus active compounds and over 500 total constituents with about 118 of those being specific to cannabis only...
here is a somewhat anti- euphoria cannabis article that actually explains it some more
https://cannacompanionusa.com/faq/cannabis-science/

plus the big thing here that is what happens all the time.... take any of those varying compounds from the cannabis, put them in you and they then turn into something else.... one compound becomes multiple compounds from direct assimilation and metabolism etc... so we take all that complexity and make it more complex!

and Judge Francis Young's ruling after seeking to reschedule cannabis after doctors tested it for him... the conclusions from them - it is the most biologically active substance known to man
 
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I guess I maybe could see where you're coming from(not that I have much of a clue what you're trying to say)...but all I know is youre pretty full of it to think cannabis and Christianity arnt itertwined..they coin it "stoning" for reasons. Everything to do with it is ritual. You can deny a god if you want but not religion

certain perspectives of cannabis use is spiritually derived as in sparking neurogenesis for new inner visualized ideas to formulize... meditation and inner vision go well with the cannabis

too, I would like to call it spiritual as opposed to religious but that is just terminologies...
 
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