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Discussion in 'Cannabis News and Activism' started by Magic9, Mar 25, 2016.

  1. macbill

    macbill Gregarious Misanthrope

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    macbill Gregarious Misanthrope

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    See a map of all the legal pot farms in the Sacramento region

    More than 150 pot farms have been permitted in the capital region in the last year. All of them are located in the city of Sacramento and Yolo County, the only jurisdictions that have approved commercial pot farming in the region. In Yolo County, there are 68 approved farms, which are generally outdoors. Sacramento only allows indoor commercial cultivation. More than 100 businesses were seeking special permits from the city of Sacramento to run indoor marijuana growing operations as of July. Many of those sites are still under review by the city.

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    Long, Strange Marijuana Case Takes Another Turn in Pot Entrepreneur's Favor
    San Diego District Attorney Summer Stephan agreed on Friday to return to the medical marijuana pioneer and his business, Med-West Distribution, $289,979 — plus $5,484 in interest — that authorities confiscated in a January 2016 raid on his Kearny Mesa facility. So ends a nearly two-year case with sudden and suspenseful turns.



     
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    macbill Gregarious Misanthrope

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    LA Times Editorial:
    California's new pot rules violate the promise to small farmers
    The California Department of Food and Agriculture released an environmental impact report on the new licensing program for marijuana growers in early November that indicated the state would limit license holders to farming one acre or less.

    So growers and other industry watchers
    were shocked last month when the emergency regulations issued by the department did not limit the size of marijuana farms as expected. Instead, the rules allow applicants to seek an unlimited number of small-farm licenses, each of which allows up to 10,000 square feet, or roughly one quarter-acre, of pot cultivation.

     
  4. CarolKing

    CarolKing Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur

    Interesting info I was hearing today. I hadn’t thought about insurance. Fires are a huge concern in CA. If a cannabis farm had a fire their crop isn’t covered under insurance because cannabis is illegal far as the Federal Government is concerned. That needs to be changed but probably not with Sessions as AG. Yes voting for the right person does make a difference.

    I look forward to hear how CA does with the beginning of legal weed. The world is watching. :popcorn::bigleaf:
     
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  5. C No Ego

    C No Ego Well-Known Member

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    you can get a hemp tax stamp to grow hemp! better not report your earnings though... you earn the right to go to jail, those are the earnings
     
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    macbill Gregarious Misanthrope

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    Jack in the Box Tests Munchie Meals for California Pot Smokers

    For Jack in the Box Inc., the warm smell of marijuana is rising in the air.

    As California prepares for legal recreational pot on Jan. 1, the fast-food chain is partnering with a digital media company backed by rapper Snoop Dogg on a new “munchie” meal aimed at cannabis enthusiasts. While marijuana’s connection to fast food is well-established, Jack in the Box will become the first national chain to explicitly embrace the drug.

    The “Merry Munchie Meal,” which will be available at three California locations for a week in January for $4.20.......
     
  8. macbill

    macbill Gregarious Misanthrope

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    macbill Gregarious Misanthrope

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    Federal agents can still seize marijuana at California checkpoints despite legalization
    California legalizes marijuana for recreational use Monday, but that won’t stop federal agents from seizing the drug — even in tiny amounts — on busy freeways and backcountry highways.

    Marijuana possession still will be prohibited at eight Border Patrol checkpoints in California, a reminder that state and federal laws collide when it comes to pot. The U.S. government classifies marijuana as a controlled substance, like heroin and LSD.

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    LA Times Editorial: The lack of health research into marijuana makes it hard to tell people whether it is safe
    With just days to go, public health agencies are scrambling to put together education campaigns before Jan. 1. But experts in the field say they face a big problem: There simply isn’t enough research into the impact of adult marijuana use to offer a lot of proven and practical health guidance.
     
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  10. looney2nz

    looney2nz Research Geek, Mad Scientist

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    Yeah, the FEDS will endear themselves by using confiscation and asset forfeiture in a legal state :(
    (under Trump/Sessions, sadly likely)
     
  11. CarolKing

    CarolKing Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur

    By The Associated Press
    Published at 3:56 PM PST on Dec 25, 2017


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    Dave Warden, a bud tender at Private Organic Therapy (P.O.T.), a non-profit co-operative medical marijuana dispensary, displays various types of marijuana available to patients on October 19, 2009 in Los Angeles, California.
    California has published the rules that will govern its legal marijuana economy in 2018, giving businesses and consumers a glimpse into the future.

    But there are important steps before legal recreational sales kick off on Jan. 1, and even more uncertainties about how the marketplace will function.

    Warning: Don't count on being able to stroll into your local dispensary on New Year's Day to celebrate with a pot cookie or joint.

    WHY ARE THE REGULATIONS IMPORTANT?
    They form the framework of the new pot economy, estimated to be worth $7 billion. Can you make animal-shaped edibles? No. Transport pot in a drone? No. But retailers can be open from 6 a.m. to 10 p.m. It's a dense stack of rules that includes fees for licensing (nearly $80,000 annually for a large grower), how pot will be traced from seed to sale and testing requirements to ensure customers get what they pay for.

    CAN I BUY LEGAL RECREATIONAL POT ON JAN. 1?
    For most people, probably not. It will vary place to place, but many cities are not prepared. Even though the state regulations went out Thursday, the Bureau of Cannabis Control is still developing an online system for businesses to apply for operating licenses. California is working out technical bugs and hopes it will be ready in early December.

    "There certainly will be licenses issued on Jan. 1," said Alex Traverso of the Bureau of Cannabis Control.

    But there's a snag: To apply for a state license, a grower or seller first needs a local permit, and many cities are struggling to establish those rules, including Los Angeles and San Francisco, two of the biggest markets.

    "I think the state dropped the ball big time. This should have been done by June, July," said Los Angeles grower and retailer Donnie Anderson. "I don't think this is going to be ready."

    Other places, like Kern County, have banned commercial pot activity. At the same time, San Diego is among the cities that have local rules in place and are ready for legal sales. Palm Springs is planning for cannabis lounges, where recreational pot can be smoked on site.

    A GRADUAL START

    For six months, the state is allowing businesses to bend the rules a bit, recognizing it will take time for the new system to take hold. During that period, businesses can sell products that do not meet new packaging requirements. Retailers can sell inventory that does not meet new rules for ingredients or appearance.

    At an industry conference in September, California's top pot regulator sought to ease concerns that the state would move quickly on enforcement against operations without licenses. If authorities are aware a business has applied for a license "I don't want you to have anxiety that we're out there and we're going to be enforcing everything right away," said Lori Ajax, who heads the state cannabis bureau.

    EVERYTHING IS TEMPORARY
    Even if you get a license, it will be temporary — good for 120 days. In some cases, there can be a 90-day extension on top of that. During that time, the state will review a business' credentials and information submitted in the license application, such as financial records and investors in the business.
    The regulations issued by the state this week are temporary, too.

    MANY CHALLENGES REMAIN
    Key pieces of the legal pot system are still in the works. A massive tracking system that will follow plants from seed to sale is in development, but officials say it will be ready at the start of the new year. It's not clear if enough distributors will be available to move cannabis from fields to testing labs and eventually to retail shops, possibly creating a bottleneck between growers and store shelves.

    THE LOOMING BLACK MARKET
    No one knows how many operators will apply for licenses. While medical marijuana has been legal in California for over two decades, most growing and selling occurs in the black market. Come Jan. 1, officials hope those growers and sellers will join the legal pot economy.

    But there are concerns many might continue business as usual to avoid new taxes, which could hit 45 percent in the recreational market in some cases, according to a recent study by Fitch Ratings.

    "The existing black market for cannabis may prove a formidable competitor" if taxes send legal retail prices soaring, the report said.

    In WA - July 2016 when the state turned over from medical to legal cannabis my fave cannabis shop was told they could stay open until their inventory was sold but was busted by the sheriffs dept 2 weeks later. They were Sunshine Organics that got screwed when they pasted out the licenses. They were so low on the list their name never came up. They had been in business since 2012. They were told they didn’t need to apply early on. That they would be grandfathered in because they had been paying all their taxes. They were lied to and then lied to again. It was a very unfair system here. Hopefully CA won’t screw over the long-term shops.
    CK
     
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  12. C No Ego

    C No Ego Well-Known Member

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    with all that massive federal legal hurdle Legal cannabis States need to bypASS all that mumbo jumbo to come up with a new Green money system to sell all that cannabis!! new Banks - the works... Canna Banking Inc
     
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  13. macbill

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    ‘Cannabis will be everywhere’

    Once a thriving gold-mining town, Nipton is now an experiment.

    The nation’s largest publicly traded marijuana company, American Green, recently bought the town for $5 million, with plans to develop a “cannabis-driven” resort on the edge of the Mojave.
     
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    I linked an article on Nipton a few months ago. It is quite interesting. (The idea, not the town.) I have a question; would anyone here really want to go?

    It does not ring my bell too loudly to go to an inhospitable place that will have pot available to freely use whenever you want. I've pretty much got that now; except that the place is not inhospitable and I can wear my slippers and jammies all day. While I'm sure those in Nipton wouldn't mind if I did so there, I just don't really see any advantage to going.

    I suppose some might love the culture of everyone being involved with the same activity, ordering the Rastaburger and Roachfries at every meal (Don't forget your Bongwater soda, it's cheaper as a combo.) does not seem to be tripping the light fantastic. My home is pretty comfortable. And, my dogs are there.

    Having a pot town to go to if there is nothing like it might be great. If everywhere is like it, I don't see traveling a few hours to a desert nowhere is going to be on my agenda. I would think the real money would be as a production and refining town that creates all the wonderful products legal users may want.
     
  15. invertedisdead

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    The only hope I see would be applying for a license that will already be impossible to get unless you are already a mayor/governor/senator. This article is worded like all you need to do is give the thumbs up and you will be allowed to enter the legal market.

    I think it's pretty funny they used a photo of some dense outdoor schwag bud too. I hope that's not foreshadowing what's to come to the rec market.
     
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  16. macbill

    macbill Gregarious Misanthrope

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    They're from the government. They're here to help.....
    Northern California Pot Distributor Wants Its Seized Marijuana Back

    A licensed marijuana company in Ukiah wants law enforcement authorities to return the marijuana they seized.
    “The idea that this industry starts on January 1 is just absurd,” said Lucas Seymour, the co-founder and CEO of Old Kai.
    Last Friday, California Highway Patrol officers pulled over one of the logistics company’s delivery trucks, arrested two employees and seized 1,875 pounds of pot, along with the van.

    The weed distributor has a local pot license.
    But the CHP says the company needed a state license to transport marijuana. The state licensing takes effect Monday.
     
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  17. looney2nz

    looney2nz Research Geek, Mad Scientist

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    ok, I think I'm about to walk into a buzzsaw one way or another... but here it goes...
    haven't been able to stay on top of the changes to CA law with all the chemo, etc. :(

    I've been buying Kaneh Co. brownies (1000mg), which I cut into 6 doses.
    I've also been buying Bhang CBD Bars (60mg each CBD & THC) which are scored to break into 4 pieces (but I eat the whole thing). Outside of edibles I use CO2 oil and Rosin for breakthrough pain.

    If edibles are supposed to be limited to 10mg doses (is that for medical patients too???), what are patients supposed to do??? Eat 16 pieces at a time to equal your existing dose?

    Expecting craziness tomorrow :(
     
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  18. C No Ego

    C No Ego Well-Known Member

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    here is hoping they do not lump medical into rec... completely different needs there and I hope they care about the details more than their pocketbooks
     
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    So with you C, but unfortunately, history shows most of these type of decisions are pocketbook driven.
    Fingers crossed.
     
  20. OldNewbie

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    The regulations currently say the THC in retail sales of edible products can't exceed 10mg per "serving". The general consensus (As it has not been tested in court yet.) is that it means edibles must be easily divided into known-amount servings of less than 10mg each. So, for instance, the Bhang bar you mentioned will have to be scored so that it can break into at least 6 pieces. While the brownie may be a bit problematical under the rules, most edibles should follow the pizza joke.

    Pizza guy: How many slices do you want me to cut your pizza into? Four or eight?
    OldNewbie: You better make it four. I'm not hungry enough to eat eight.

    Their pocketbooks is the only concern. At least in California, it will take huge effort for medical to stay separate in any meaningful fashion. Advocates just won't be as motivated when recreational is available to meet the needs of medical patients and the cost of keeping two systems up is not going to be worth it.
     
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  21. CarolKing

    CarolKing Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur

    In WA state we have had Legal cannabis for a few years. The edible pricing makes it difficult for the medical patients. After legal started the edibles almost doubled in price. I used to buy from folks that made edibles out of their kitchens. Everything now has to be packaged against any children or pets getting into the edible. A serving is 10mg of THC. The cost makes it unfair to the medical patients where I live. We just save on sales tax which is roughly 9%. The edibles are the same price for everyone, whether you are legal or medical. There isn’t edibles for strictly medical patients here.

    I make my edibles myself, if I’m able to. It’s expensive. Sometimes you can find $150 ounces.

    I miss the medical cannabis farmers markets. I hope that won’t be taken away from you folks in CA. Cannabis can only be sold in weed stores in WA.
     
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  22. CarolKing

    CarolKing Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur

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  23. OldNewbie

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    Go to weedmaps. You can find the actual pricing of what each individual dispensary sells for. Most that are legally-licensed for medical have applied for licenses so can retail for recreational as they are transitioned in if the city allows it. (Think Santa Ana, San Diego, West Hollywood) Fully-licensed seems to be 25-50% more than the "pirate" shops. (We need to invent a term for unlicensed.)
     
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    Los Angeles gets ready for cannabis truck advertising in ‘largest marijuana marketing campaign’

    [T]hose living in and around Los Angeles should get set for trucks driving around the city wrapped in advertising for MedMen, one of the stores "mainstreaming marijuana," and a company that has spent more than $500,000 on marketing already.

    But the ads — which have already run on billboards around LA's wider metropolitan area — won't feature any buds, blunts or bongs. Instead, the posters will show close-ups of people's faces with phrases such as "Heal. It's legal," and "Relax. It's legal."
     
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    macbill Gregarious Misanthrope

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    'Sorry Bro.' Coachella Bans Marijuana Even Though California Just Made it Legal

    Coachella just dealt a harsh blow to its mellow music fans. The festival won’t allow the use of marijuana on site, even though the destination’s home state of California just made the drug legal.

    “Sorry bro. Marijuana and marijuana products aren’t allowed inside [the festival]. Even in 2018 and beyond. If that changes, we’ll update this answer,” Coachella’s Frequently Asked Questions page read Monday. (E-cigs and vape pens are still fair game.)
     

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