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What do Californians (and the rest) think of AUMA?

Discussion in 'Cannabis News and Activism' started by Magic9, Mar 25, 2016.

  1. howie105

    howie105 Well-Known Member

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    Putting people in charge of the MJ market who are often the very same people who failed at their own pointless war on drugs is probably not a good idea. Ignore the Bozos continue to support your free and open market and its growers.
     
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  2. C No Ego

    C No Ego Well-Known Member

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    they are losing their prohibition jobs so they need to do something... I do like the approach the Marley family took in Cali with the closed down prison they are converting to a cannabis grow operation... they are hiring previous prison employees first so the area gets job freedom in the workplace back... I'm sure those previous prison employees will jump at the chance
     
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  3. macbill

    macbill Gregarious Misanthrope

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  4. CarolKing

    CarolKing Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur

    Los Angeles Times
    California politics news feed
    SEPT. 27, 2017, 5:04 P.M. found this article.



    Months before California allows the sale of marijuana for recreational use, the state has launched an education campaign about the drug, including highlighting the potential harms of cannabis for minors and pregnant women.

    The state is scheduled to issue licenses starting Jan. 2 for growing and selling marijuana for recreational use, expanding a program that currently allows cannabis use for medical purposes.

    In response, the California Department of Public Health has created a website to educate Californians about the drug and its impacts, including how to purchase and safely store cannabis.

    “We are committed to providing Californians with science-based information to ensure safe and informed choices,” said State Public Health Officer Dr. Karen Smith.

    The website, “Let’s Talk Cannabis,” notes it is illegal for people under 21 to buy marijuana for non-medical use and warns that “using cannabis regularly in your teens and early 20s may lead to physical changes in your brain.”

    The site also warns that marijuana edibles may have higher concentrations of tetrahydrocannabinol, or THC. “If you eat too much, too fast you are at higher risk for poisoning,” the website warns.

    The state urges parents and guardians to talk to their teenagers about legal and health issues surrounding marijuana use.

    The state officials also say consuming cannabis is not recommended for women who are pregnant or breastfeeding, or who plan to become pregnant soon, noting that it “can affect the health of your baby.”

    The website got good marks from legalization activist Ellen Komp, deputy director of California’s chapter of National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws.

    The website is “fairly accurate,” she said, but added, “The risks with pregnancy are somewhat overstated, telling women they should not use cannabis for nausea or even if they are thinking of getting pregnant.”

    Some 43% of Californians have used marijuana for recreational purposes and 54% said they have not, according to a USC Dornsife/Los Angeles Times poll last November.

    Among those who have not used it, just 2% said they are much more likely to use it if Proposition 64 passed, which it did, while 5% said they are somewhat more likely to use it, and 89% said they are no more likely to smoke pot if it was legalized.

    Other advice from the state’s site: driving under the influence of cannabis is illegal and increases the chance of a car accident, and cannabis should be stored in a locked area to avoid poisoning children and pets.


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    I have a problem when describing edibles and using the term "poisoning". Maybe kids and adults need to hear that word so they understand how serious too much of an edible can be? I've had a terrible experience while using edibles myself but I wouldn't describe it as a "poisoning". That gives it a bit of a Reefer Madness tone.
    CK
     
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  5. invertedisdead

    invertedisdead trance-form

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    Cannabis doesn't even have any psychoactive properties until decarboxylated IE vaped, baked, or smoked... nobody is going to get poisoned by cannabis just from looking at it, sniffing it, or holding it in their hand. They make it sound like it's arsenic or mercury.
     
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  6. macbill

    macbill Gregarious Misanthrope

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    Think you might challenge that marijuana shop's city license? L.A. might stand in your way

    Los Angeles might restrict who can lodge appeals when marijuana businesses get city licenses, blocking challenges from people who do not live, work or own property nearby.


    Pot legalization in California brings a bonanza of government jobs

    The state is on a hiring binge to fill what eventually will be hundreds of new government positions by 2019 intended to bring order to the legal pot economy, from keeping watch on what’s seeping into streams near cannabis grows to running background checks on storefront sellers who want government licenses. Thousands of additional jobs are expected to be added by local governments.
     
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  7. macbill

    macbill Gregarious Misanthrope

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    Most Bay Area cities won’t allow recreational marijuana sales in January

    Memo to all you Golden State tokers: Your dreams of buying recreational pot in California after New Year’s Day are hazy at best.

    It’s become clear in recent weeks that most cities around the Bay Area, as well as the rest of the state, will not be ready to permit recreational cannabis sales early next year when a proposition legalizing pot use goes live. That will leave only a few scattered exceptions — likely including Emeryville and Santa Cruz — where officials expect to be ready for recreational sales by the first of January.
     
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    macbill Gregarious Misanthrope

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  9. looney2nz

    looney2nz Research Geek, Mad Scientist

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    and THEY were one of the WORST cities in CA for medical :(
     
  10. OldNewbie

    OldNewbie Well-Known Member

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    More regulation =/= More love

    The more complete the regulatory environment, the easier it is to squeeze those who you don't like. The politicians merely acted on the overwhelming will of the people (And the overwhelming money of "local marijuana industry".) and took control of a situation that would otherwise be out of their control. I'm not saying it's bad; I'm just saying the fact they have regulations in place does not mean they won't be the "worst" in how they treat recreational sales. Time will tell.
     
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  11. CarolKing

    CarolKing Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur

    Oct. 7, 2017

    The mainstreaming of marijuana is about to get huge boost.

    Recreational marijuana sales will launch in three states next year, including the biggest one of all: California.


    It's already for sale in five states, but the addition of a legal retail marijuana market in California, with its massive economy and population, will dramatically change the landscape.

    California is aiming to open retail marijuana stores by January 1, Massachusetts and Maine plan to open stores next summer.

    "We obviously still have a lot to do, but yes, we're going to be ready to go on January 1," said Alex Traverso, spokesman for the Bureau of Cannabis Control in California. "We will be issuing new regulations in November, so we're hard at work on those at the present time."

    Among the checklist of expected regulations is new oversight on water usage -- like drip irrigation and reusing waste water -- that could prove expensive for marijuana businesses. Other rules will require licensing and background checks for distributors and safety and education training for consumers.

    Dispensaries like Green Alternative, which has 10,000 patients in San Diego, are getting ready to add non-medical customers to their clientele.

    "We are in the process of stockpiling cannabis in order to fulfill the market needs," said Zach Lazarus, COO of the Green Alternative. "We believe there will be a huge rush. We go through two to four pounds [per day] on average, and we anticipate going through three to four times as much when we open the doors for recreational."

    This requires not only stockpiling pot, but negotiating hurdles on the state and local level, for licensing, zoning, taxation and other issues.

    Erik Altieri, executive director of the pro-legalization group NORML, said it might take longer than January "to set up the regulation process and to work out how the new recreational market will exist alongside its already quite large medical market."

    Related: Marijuana businesses worry about Trump, but expect to prevail

    The Bureau of Cannabis Control in California put its proposed regulations up for public review and began holding community workshop meetings in Long Beach, Fresno and Sacramento in September.

    Massachusetts will implement retail marijuana sales on July 1, once state officials finalize whether certain localities will be able to maintain a marijuana ban in their respective towns, said Altieri.

    "We are committed to make that deadline," said Steven Hoffman, chairman of the Cannabis Control Commission in Boston, which held its first meeting on September 12 on developing and implementing regulations.

    Maine would have the smallest market, and it's unclear when they'll get it off the ground. Dan Tartakoff, clerk for the Marijuana Legalization Implementation Committee of state lawmakers, said draft regulations were released in September proposing a 20% tax rate.

    Related: Nevada issues first marijuana delivery licenses

    These states already have medical marijuana programs and dispensaries, but soon they'll also have stores that can sell recreational marijuana to anyone 21 and older. Recreational marijuana dispensaries already exist in Colorado, which was the first to legalize adult-use pot in 2014, and also Washington, Oregon, Alaska and Nevada, which started in July this year.

    Voters in California, Massachusetts and Maine approved legalization of recreational marijuana in referendum votes in November 2016, on the same day that Donald Trump was elected president. It typically takes at least a year for state officials to set up regulations for the industry.
     
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  12. madnezz344

    madnezz344 live free and live elevated :}

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    It is about time even though access to the wonderful plant has never been an obstacle. All this silly bueracracy is just shit and giggles for me. I wonder if clothing, fuel, and food will finally be enhanced with it. Pandora's box for innovation is at hand :}
     
  13. CarolKing

    CarolKing Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur

    Northern California Wildfires Are Devastating the Area's Cannabis Crop


    The world’s marijuana growing mecca is in the middle of harvest season, but raging fires are threatening to put tons of product and millions in potential profits up in smoke.

    Tuesday 10/10/2017
    by Zach Harris

    In Northern California, Fall means more than leaves changing colors, squash and pumpkins, with hordes of “trimmigrants” heading for the hills and a spike in scissor sales marking the world’s most important annual cannabis harvest. This year though, as thousands of farmers and their trimming assistants prepare this year’s crop for the medical market, personal use and illegal out of state sales, a series of wildfires is raging through Sonoma and Napa counties, destroying homes, businesses, vineyards, and, yes, cannabis farms.

    Most of Northern California’s commercial cannabis production is based in the emerald triangle of Mendocino, Humboldt and Trinity counties, but according to the San Francisco Chronicle, Sonoma County (directly south of Mendocino) is home to anywhere from 3,000 to 9,000 marijuana farms, with revenue from the cash crop bringing hundreds of millions of dollars to the area.

    “It’s located right there between three counties where so much of our product comes from, and its proximity to the Bay Area makes it a huge marketplace, with a lot of processing and manufacturing; just a huge industrial leader in general.” California Growers Association Executive Director Hezekiah Allen said.


    On a weekly conference call of the Growers Association, 6 of 18 of the group’s regional leaders were being evacuated due to the fire or out helping neighbors being evacuated.

    “We’re expecting some pretty significant property damage,” Allen said. “As damage numbers emerge, it’s going to be pretty stunning on all fronts, and certainly our membership has been directly impacted.”

    For SPARC farms, a commercial grower in Sonoma County’s Glen Ellen, plans to trim the company’s outdoor crop today have been postponed, but a number of employees and SPARC farms director Erich Pearson have refused to evacuate with the rest of their neighbors, choosing instead to stand by their plants until it is no longer possible.
     
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  14. looney2nz

    looney2nz Research Geek, Mad Scientist

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    what's happening in Northern California is heartbreaking, the devastation to the area's Wine business is going to be immense, what it will do to the cannabis market is scary :(
     
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  15. macbill

    macbill Gregarious Misanthrope

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    Wildfires devastate California pot farmers, who must rebuild without banks or insurance

    Fire season and the cannabis harvest coincide in the fall, leaving growers with a combustible mix: flammable plants and the flammable currency that paid for them.
    Established crop insurance companies do not write policies for cannabis. Because marijuana growing is illegal under federal law, banks generally do not do business with cultivators.
     
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  16. macbill

    macbill Gregarious Misanthrope

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    WTF is up with this??? I thought a key part was to only allow small farms for few years so the little guys could get established before Calif is turned in "Marlboro country".
    Or did greed take over so the State can collect massive "acreage taxes"??
    Again, WTF!!!!
     
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  18. OldNewbie

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    The limitation was a fantasy anyway.

    California used to have a limitation on the amount of water a farm owner could have access to in the central valley. It was designed to accommodate family farms where a family works the land and the powers that be wanted them to be sure they would get the water they needed. Did large, corporate, farms just give up on getting the water they need? Of course not. They created tiny legal entities "owned" (in part) by individuals or families and used the new owners as a claim for water. It cost a little in compliance costs but it got around the water limitation.

    Here, the same thing is already happening. Large corporations are hiring local population to grow. I've seen a couple of the subscriber agreements (Interestingly, both from Canada for California farms.), and they seem designed to get around the grow limits. I suspect the change is recognition the small-farm only battle is essentially lost already. (I'm sure no money from the corporations wanting a larger supply and distribution ability influenced the regulations. :\ )
     
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  19. macbill

    macbill Gregarious Misanthrope

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  20. asdf420

    asdf420 Well-Known Member

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    I guess there'll be much less demand for medical shops now? Unless they can still provide a better service or better prices(I'm clueless), they'll still be getting the same patients..??
     
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  21. macbill

    macbill Gregarious Misanthrope

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  22. C No Ego

    C No Ego Well-Known Member

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  23. looney2nz

    looney2nz Research Geek, Mad Scientist

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    I think this is awesome from a therapeutic point of view.
    Research has shown that the active ingredient in magic mushrooms is a tremendous
    anti-depressant (studied in terminal patients).
     
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  24. macbill

    macbill Gregarious Misanthrope

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  25. Baron23

    Baron23 Well-Known Member

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    Well, perhaps for some but they give me rampant anxiety as do pretty much all hallucinogenics
     
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