What 1:1 shatter:pg looks like after 6 days sitting in a tank

scy123

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https://imgur.com/a/ng6BK

This is a pg and shatter only mix. All i did was suck the mix out of the tank, no agitation or heat was added. As you can see no separation, those are air bubbles btw not separation.

Who needs expensive, nasty or suspect liquidizers and terps.

Edit - BTW for anyone who wanted to try this, I thought it would be best to do it the same way I did. Microwave the shatter/pg mix in a shot glass for 10sec and stir, pretty simple, but maybe the microwave has something to do with it LOL
 
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https://imgur.com/a/ng6BK

This is a pg and shatter only mix. All i did was suck the mix out of the tank, no agitation or heat was added. As you can see no separation, those are air bubbles btw not separation.

Who needs expensive, nasty or suspect liquidizers and terps.

Edit - BTW for anyone who wanted to try this, I thought it would be best to do it the same way I did. Microwave the shatter/pg mix in a shot glass for 10sec and stir, pretty simple, but maybe the microwave has something to do with it LOL
You should not use PG. We have discussed it on this forum and linked several articles and PG is not really safe to vape. Liquidizer is also a suspect additive. You really have to be cautious with what you add to your shatter. I go out of my way to get medical grade shatter, wax and rosin. It would make my efforts pointless to add something that could be harmful.
 

scy123

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I vape pg and vg on the regular. I'm an ecig user. I have heard reports about pg not being safe to vape, but don't really follow it. Their are millions of people like me out there that vape up to 30mls of this stuff daily.

You mind linking some of these articles? I would love to go over them.

Edit - just looked around and seems like the concern is pg releases formaldehyde at high temperatures. I also found a study indicating temperature up to 440f is safe. https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/b...ls-in-a-real-atty-under-real-conditions.7975/

I use temp control anyways. was setting it at 500f, but guess I'll lower it to 440f
 
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fpjj

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I just wanted to post this article linking to Dr. Farsalinos info that they have found in contradiction to some of the studies that came out showing how much formaldehyde was being generated by ecigs. It may also help you in the research for if PG is safe. Personally I don't use a ton of pg in my e-cig use, as I normally mix my e-liquid at 80% VG sometimes higher and use an RDA usually lower than 40 watts with a 0.4 ohm coil (I don't temp control because I prefer Kanthal for allergy issues related to nickel.) But I don't avoid using pg as some recipes for flavoring work better at a little more pg.

http://www.ecigarette-research.org/research/index.php/research/2017/259-aldeh2

For everything I've researched, pg I don't feel is horrible to use, but for the purposes used here, a mixture of PEG 400, PG, and possibly even Triacetin (like a really small amount of that as part of the emulsion) heated, then warm vg added while mixing (either with an electric hand whisk, or a magnetic stirrer with hot plate) then flavorings added would be one of the most effective ways to mix a canna-juice mixture.
 
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