Discussion in 'Plug-in Vaporizers' started by stonemonkey55, Nov 12, 2008.
That is my kind of Cafe---can I get a fresh squeezed fruit juice with a Sour Guava Vrip please?
Had this on my PC, from way back.
Nice one S1N3 that's gotta be the coolest Vrip Vid to date for sure the most arfully arranged! The first time I tried to play it it was blocked for BMI Copyright violations according to the window or something to that effect then it worked when I tried it the next day??? Super cool thanks for sharing and nice RooR IceMaster BTW....Vrip has alot of RooR allies it would seem...
Just ordered my VHW with 18mm VCB from VaporNation! Can't wait for those BIG Clouds!
Right on SunnyHours welcome to the family! Check out the demo/promo video on youtube for some good tech tips and/or check the instruction .pdf on vriptech.com to help you dial in quickly. Of course, there are great tips all throughout this forum thread as well and any specific questions feel free to hit us up at email@example.com and we'll make sure you're dialed quick. One key tip seeing that you're going with an 18.8mm bowl is to run a double screen and pack dense until the screen is well seasoned --- the 18.8mm bowls are such low resistance on most pieces that it can be hard to pace the draw to milk it properly so many of our customers running the 18s have figured out that with a brand new one just double screening it (should be two stainless screens with the bowl if it comes as packed from Vrip) and packing dense until the screen is well seasoned (or from there on for the dense pack part anyway!!!) and it makes it easier to pace the draw and milk it blue. You're getting the goods regardless, but there is something extra satisfying about milking it blue....speaking of which testing duty calls...
Trust me I've been obsessed over the first vriptech bowl with Steinel and really wanted one...so since then I've seen pretty much every video of it...can't wait to receive it. I still can't believe how hard it was for me choosing between the VHW and the LSV was a chore hehe
Finally got my VHW and it's pretty nice so far (only 2 small bowls and one of them half consumed)
I do have a question though...
Is there a way I can turn it off or do I have to plug/unplug it everytime to use it?
Do you have any recommendations regarding that?
You have to plug/unplug it everytime. You could put it on a timer switch.
I would use a dedicated surge protector with a switch.
And what about leaving it on for around 4 hours is that safe? Or is it bad for the VHW?
Also if I'm going to reuse it soon should I lower the heat setting until I'm ready?
That's perfectly safe, but ya lower the heat.
Yep turn the heat down to ensure a long life-time, but no real harm if you leave it on overnight. The only issue is wear and tear of the silicone seal - over time they crack and need replacing, and the more the VHW is turned up to full and not in use the quicker you'll need a replacement.
The ground glass joint VHW should hopefully be here soon, meaning no more silicone, but yeah I'd still keep your unit turned down low or off when not in use.
Just wondering if both the top portion of the vriptech bowl if it's the same for the 18mm and 14mm.
I broke the top half of my 18mm bowl. The thing is I have an 18mm bong and a 14mm bong as well. So I was thinking of getting the 14mm bowl this time to have one lower part for each bong and switch the top part around...
Would that work?
Yes, that will work.
Good stuff Vrip family thanks for keeping Sunny Hours dialed in --- yeah bro the upper intakes are the same for both the 14.4mm and 18.8mm bowls so in theory the same upper intake could be used for either, BUT, and this is the big BUT....the glass supply situation in N. America, the World for that matter, has made it virtually impossible for us to rely on one supplier and one manufacturer's glass consistently and even using the exact same manufacturers' glass the tubing is deviating more than the tubing we built this company on used to deviate. So given our product model that creates an issue with guaranteeing on-going modular compatibility. As a result we have stopped selling the individual bowls and intakes and are now only selling matched pairs. On the surface this may seem like it sucks, but once you do the math on what it costs to order just a bowl / intake or to order a complete chamber you realize that it really makes more sense to always order a complete chamber anyway given the shipping and handling fee as that way you're guaranteed a usable fit and not potentially needing to swap pieces out, and additionally, you end up with an extra piece that you'll likely need some day anyway --- it is glass after all! And of course, "fitting" the chambers is still always possible by grinding the o-ring down or even upsizing to a larger o-ring that will need to be ground down if the fit was loose and Vrip is happy to support with additional o-rings we just don't want to waste as much time and energy on swapping pieces trying to affect a fit when it's the glass tubing that is deviating by more than it used to that is the problem.
Having big troubles with VaporNation.com right now, be warned/careful ordering from them.
Waiting over 2 weeks for some news about the cracked VHW I received and also waiting on a 140$ order that hasn't shipped in 2 weeks either really worried!
Shit sorry to hear that Sunny Hours I'll have VaporGirl our wholesale rep check in with them to see if there is anything we can help with from this side.
SunnyHours not sure if you got sorted yet but hopefully you have...please let us know if not and we'll do what we can from our side. VaporGirl said that they had placed an order for VCBS_14.4mms recently that just shipped end of last week and that there was a request for a return for inspection / exchange on something, but when she asked some questions to sort what it was they wanted to return/exchange she hadn't yet gotten an answer. Our retail and wholesale policy is to exchange for anything recieved from us damaged; however, we don't cover product that is damaged in shipment from distributor to customer --- that liability is obviously is on their side and usually just a UPS/USPS claim away from being reimbursedable --- this sounds like perhaps the case?
Hello FC, I am purchasing my first vaporizer and decided to go with a Steinel heatgun setup ( my thread, for more detailed information is at http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/best-setup-for-use-with-steinel-heatgun-2010-e.8705/#post-352718 , I got redirected here by Vorrange). I wonder if i should get the VRIP tech Chamberbowl for a perfect fit, or if by any chance any reducer nozzles fit (I've got the 9, 14 and 20 mm ones) directly onto a glass bowl (for example any of the sizes bowls that would fit EHLE tubes). If anyone could give me any advice on the matter it would be greatly appriciated.
Thanks for your time,
A reducer will work fine, if you can achieve a good seal with the bowl. It'll influence the flavour slightly, you really want to minimise or remove all metal and other reactive surfaces, but it's a good way to try it out and see if the Steinel method works for you. See how it goes - and if you want to improve the flavour and further reduce the risk of contamination you could switch to Vriptech's glass tools later on.
The VHW is light years ahead of the old Steinel method though - the flavour and purity just can't be matched, and you've got a lot more control over all of the variables like airflow, temps, heat soak (for radiant and conduction heat transfer, on top of the best convection I've ever experienced in a vape). You can get some very thick vapor by inhaling long and slow (much slower than the Steinel can do), or fast and hard for lighter vapor and more of a THC (vs. CBD) effect. It just opens up a whole range of possibilities that aren't really possible with most other vaporizers. I'm still blown away by the VHW and I've had mine for a few years now, after using the Steinel and Valloon for over 10 years berfore that. I can't see any other vaporizer beating the VHW to be honest, the only real improvements you could make would be for digital temp control, and maybe ground glass joints on the last remaining interface - where the bowl meets the reducer (VHW to reducer interface has a spherical ground joint coming soon).
I'd stick with the Steinel if you're happy, and consider a gradual upgrade path towards Vriptech's HG parts, the Valloon, or maybe skip straight to the VHW if you want better quality vapor on top of what you're getting from the Steinel. The Valloon's great as you don't need to handle the heatgun, just fill up a bag and walk away, and the heatguns are pretty unwieldy even after you've got your technique down. The VHW gives a much better user experience as far as handling it - just be sure to get the stand, I can't imagine using it without the stand as it gives you access to higher temps than the VHW can achieve on its own and makes it all very easy to hold and use.
DBA VapeHead couldn't have put it more pragmatically...good shit. I (this is Mark founder of Vrip BTW not Shadow) started vaporizing with a Steinel made Makita and a reducer nozzle after hearing about Eagle Bill and how he had found vapor through a heat gun technique that some ninja hippies in Big Sur had mastered in the '70s. Eagle Bill made a bowl perfectly adapted to accept the heatgun but it was huge...it was literally a vapor keg tap and required some serious material weight to work well so not ideal for us stateside (even us in CA)! IMHO you can technique the reducer nozzle to virtually any one-piece bowl approach into virtually as good as vapor gets, but you'll always have a spray of browned load carcass particles escaping the bowl and besides the material purity consideration VapeHead mentioned (also the polarity of the metal is not as ideal as glass or quartz for terpene/flavor expression in my practiced experience) you don't benefit the proper physics for affecting the most rapid and efficient extractions. Back in '97 I woke up in the middle of the night after falling asleep hours earlier thinking about one of my favorite subjects, aromatherapy vapor, and much to the inconvenience of my sleeping girl friend (now my wife) I got up turned on a light and started drawing. I was drawing the first VCB (Vaporization Chamber Bowl) and it was based upon very simple ideas: seal the damn thing so you don't have to vacuum after every session and use a sequential venturi flow-form to make the extraction as fast and efficient as possible to deliver the broadest specrtrum of terpenes AND higher temperature actives in a condensed state in the same inhalations. This is HUGE because the vaporization temp difference between where terpenes begin to vaporize and where higher temp actives vaporize is 100+F; hence the reason most "vaporizers" deliver the flavor first and then "burnt popcorn" actives second. I also sought to emulate the one hit "snap-through" style of water pipe smoking that was my ritual preference at the time that I evolved to using the heat gun and vaporizing. In fact, VripTech's vapor business was started by giving away SVT (Superior Vaporization Technique) manuals that tell people exactly what VapeHead just said and that was to give it a shot with the reducer to get a taste and then when you realize superior vapor is for you upgrade to the Vrip. Our VHW is by far our most popular heat tool now, but the heat gun systems still sell strong and are used for redundancy by many of our VHW devotees --- the Steinel is nice to have as a session saving back up if you break your VHW glass cover or the element fades at an inconvenient time and you don't have back-ups! Many of our VHW customers just put the Steinel nozzle right up to the shorty intake and are stoked at the performance....it won't give you the same seated seal, but it is definitely functional. If you're going to use it dedicated with the heat gun get one of our dedicated HG VCBs for sure though. They come in sizes that fit practically any piece out there including EHLE. Oh, and be sure to use the lowest air flow option to minimize oxidation unless an oxidized spectrum is what you're seeking.
Vapehead, Mark, first of all, thank you for your extensive and informative posts. Seeing as money is an issue right now, I can not quite afford to get the wand at this time. If I had the money it would be between the VHW and de Verdamper, but for now the steinel will have to do. It's only the 3rd vaporizer I will ever try and it may take a while to get the technique down as well (the two previously mentioned don't have much more than "put in your herb and press the button" or hit it, in de Verdamper's case). I found the taste of de Verdamper definitely superior, which is why I want to get as much glass as possible with my limited budget (to hopefully upgrade to full glass later on). My Ehle would be exclusively for the heatgun setup. Is the HG VCB compatible with the wands or do they have their own chamber bowls? Thanks for all the advice on the use of heatgun setup it will be very helpful.
No worries DBA totally understand and endorse your approach. The VCB (HG) and VCBS ("shorty" version for the VHW) both use the same lower bowls, but use upper intakes specifically for either heat tool. While the VCBS can be used with the HG (just doesn't give you a seated seal you have to hold it there), the VCB doesn't work so well with the VHW because it is taller (heat is farther away) and doesn't seal well enough in most cases (occasionally an upper intake will have a perfectly round inner diameter at the perfect location to allow the VHW to seal, but this is a fluke and not by tooled intention). In theory, you could get the VCB (HG) and be dialed for your current HG application and then later just replace the upper intake component with the "shorty" version for the VHW and be dialed, but we recently stopped selling the pieces seperately because of the current state of glass supply here in the states and the fact that the tubing we're getting today simply deviates more making for alot more exchanges and inconveniences for us and our customers than we thought was ideal. This is especially the case given that once you factor in the shipping and handling cost it really makes more sense to buy a matched set anyways and know you've got a matched set out of the box and likely end up with a compatible extra piece that will probably come in handy some day --- it is glass after all! Some of our distributors still have the seperate pieces so could provide that option we just can't guarantee the retro-fit. Most of the time it's not a problem and will be too tight if anything which means as long as it's not glass on glass you can simply "fit" the chamber by grinding the o-ring down a little (use an emery board or a piece of sand paper; takes minutes and is a one-time deal). If the fit is too loose you can get a larger o-ring that can be ground to fit it too so not the end of the world just not convenient from a customer or supplier perspective hence our decision to only sell matched sets at this point.
Sorry for the two back order lags on VHWs this last month folks our local maestro that is the best at using the jig for the internal seal that is so critical to the VHW glass cover design has been sick as a dog and barely working. Finally got him back in for a few days back to back last week and we're well stocked once again --- get em while they're fresh and on the shelf!!!
And good news progress report on the next gen VHWs and VCBs featuring complete GonG (super trick spherical joint VHW-VCBUI interface and a shorter than standard 19mm joint for the VCB) that we've been struggling with sourcing and tooling the required pieces to the tolerances needed --- the first round of samples from our new AMERICAN supplier (yes you read right) should be received early next week yeeeha! Get ready for another paradigm shift in what level of vapor quality is attainable! Also, too early to announce specifics, but an interesting glass collaboration is being explored that should result in some Vapor-tuned headies for those that better than the others good enough just isn't good enough....
I have used many different vaporizer methods in the past 15 years. But last week I pick up a Vrip Master heat wand and glass kit and all I can say is wow. What a well thought out perfect tool for the ultimate delivery of your favorite medication. Absolutely the best vapor system I have ever used. Clean flavor, energy efficient and so easy to use, nothing else even comes close. Don't hesitate if your considering picking one up, you will thank yourself with every use. -Highly recommended-
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