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Discussion in 'Plug-in Vaporizers' started by stonemonkey55, Nov 12, 2008.

  1. Khantagious

    Khantagious Well-Known Member

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    Any more details you could provide on this would be most appreciated. These days, my VHW/VCB4.2/PerK setup is not seeing as much use as I would like, solely because I find I can only consume massive amounts with it at a time, and I'm trying to keep my tolerance on the low side. It's still my all time favorite vaporizer to use as far as flavor, fun, and assurances of a healthy air path. But I find that a critical mass of ground herb is needed to get the heat buildup working right. I would love to figure out how to microdose instead
     
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  2. lazylathe

    lazylathe Almost there...

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    With my wand i can extract from a few crumbs on the screen to full massive bowls.
    I set my wand at the 7th indent on the wheel and find this is perfect for my use.
    Very quick extraction times but i do find i need to stir and with every stir the ABV becomes a perfect medium brown!

    This is my routine:
    Turn on Wand and place in holder to heat up. I do not own the holder anymore so use a glass cup.
    Grind up your herb nice and fine. I use a fine plate in a Kannastor GR8TR but any fine grind works.
    Ensure your bowl and WT are clean.
    Load up a bit in your bowl and sit back and surf the net for 10 more minutes!
    The wand stays in the glass at all times since turning on.
    There should be a dull glow to the end of the wand. After a good 15 to 20 minute warm up, you are good to go.
    Place wand into the holder and wait for 5 seconds, get your lungs ready.
    Slow inhale first till the vapor reaches the top of your water tool, stop and exhale.
    Now hit it like it stole your weed money!

    With this technique i can vaporize any load without changing the temp on the wand.

    If you do not get any vapor with this technique, your wands heater may be defective!
    Shoot off an e mail to Vrip:
    info@vriptech.com
     
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  3. Alexis

    Alexis Open minded philosopher and realist.

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    Welcome back @Khantagious , I feel like we have ressurected the dead to see a name I recognise from reading this thread way back pop into the foreground again!

    Thanks for stepping forward and sharing your experience and thoughts about the VHW.
    Your report is largely what has held me off as my weed supply is very limited.

    But I also listen to all of @lazylathe 's thoughts and suggestions with interest.
    I dont know what percent mark 7 is on the dial, but I would hope to stick to about the 75/80% mark for the "blue" vapor for my allergies sake.

    I dont intend to use solely the VHW, but to mix it up with the Omnivap for small microdoses with good effects.
    And for me the VHW will be all for effect. Flavor is great, but it is what the falvor MEANS that matters most to me- healthy, smooth, full spectrum vapor with an awsome medicating effect!
     
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  4. lazylathe

    lazylathe Almost there...

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    There are 12 indents that function as markers on my dial.
    That would make me at around 58% power!
    Any more and my nice medium brown ABV gets too dark and the flavor is not great at those temps for me.
    I am actually turning the wand down slightly during the session as it retains a lot of heat in the glass beaker i have it resting in.

    I am not sure if my wand is extra powerful due to the upgraded heater(?) but an easy way to tell is to ask @splitz to carefully check his Vrip's dial. His unit is my original wand that i sold to @PPN and now is back in Canada!
    Can you carefully check the dial decal for a small indent? I placed it there as my marker.
    Hopefully it is still there? Would be interesting to find out where it is on the dial!
     
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  5. splitz

    splitz Well-Known Member

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    Here is the @PPN Microdosing bowl: 0.09g coughing and all...

    Click to play YouTube Video
     
  6. Alexis

    Alexis Open minded philosopher and realist.

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    Thanks very much @splitz for that awsome little clip! I love the way the vapor forms and whisps around like a magic cauldron- it definitely reminds me of my Aromed. Something magical about it!

    Did you see @lazylathe 's query about whether you can still see exactly where on the dial he marked his "cave painting" mark from past days?
    Just to compare the heat output to his new wand.

    I have my heart set on this vaporizer more than ever right now. Just need to clean and sell my tip top Aromed, and maybe Herborizer as well!

    I like the idea of the smaller bowl for the right occasion.
    I still have no idea what joint size I would opt for, I need some ideas for a water tool still as well.

    But I am sure now the VHW is the vaporizer I am supposed to have, so I can start scrolling dhgate for ideas.
     
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  7. splitz

    splitz Well-Known Member

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    @Alexis - Keep the Herbo and sell the Aromed. I have an Aromed (w/rec bowls etc...now packed away for another day...). Comparable but just not the same. My "tethered" daily drivers are at present are the VHW and Roor Herborizer.


    My go to for the "sweet-spot" :

    [​IMG]
     
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  8. biohacker

    biohacker Fucking Combustion Since 2006

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    I've used that wand!!!! :rockon:

    Same temp too!
     
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  9. lazylathe

    lazylathe Almost there...

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    @splitz Thanks for the pic! Lots of good memories with that wand!!

    I see you are at indent 9 or so and i am at indent 7 or so on mine.
    Mine actually needs to be turned down a touch still.

    I am thinking the wire wrap does help a lot!
    Still waiting on a reply from @ShadowVape for more details on my wand!
     
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  10. Alexis

    Alexis Open minded philosopher and realist.

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    Still no reply from Matk either from the email I shot him last Sunday. He may be travelling but it could be going to spam. Thanks for confirming where the heat is dialled to on your old wand currently, I couldnt make sense from the picture.

    The Vriptech boys use theirs about 75-80% I think.
    It would be awsome if your new one is an improved version, but odd that this has not been mentinoned anywhere before. We definitely need a little more company representation I think on this forum!
     
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  11. biohacker

    biohacker Fucking Combustion Since 2006

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    Mark aka ShadowVape but not the REAL ShadowVape holding down the fort (lol) is my favourite CEO of any vape company.... lazy do you still have his cell phone? Pretty awesome to be able to text the CEO of vriptech in Cali! The experience and knowledge this dude has is insane!

    This thread is usually pretty quiet, but Mark does come on fairly often to give updates, etc. on the the state of Vrip, and now that it's picked up again thanks to all of us i'm sure we'll see even more representation.

    Now I NEED a VHW again! But this means two, because you know me...always gotta have a backup for something so fragile.

    Have fun Lazy! I hate you! :argh:

    :rofl:
     
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  12. lazylathe

    lazylathe Almost there...

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    I would love to know more about the wand I have now!
    When I was emailing the previous owner, he told me that Mark had given him an upgraded heater since how original ceramic rod was not getting hot enough.

    I asked the original owner a few times how old it was, not that I cared, all I wanted was a working wand but he avoided that question all the time...

    We will all have to wait for @ShadowVape to coma and enlighten us all!!

    @biohacker :rofl:
    Since getting the VHW a lot of my other vapes don't taste as good anymore... most notably the Sub...
     
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  13. lazylathe

    lazylathe Almost there...

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    I had to dig for it...But i FOUND IT!!
    Maybe i will text him a picture of the wand and some questions and see what happens!
     
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  14. Alexis

    Alexis Open minded philosopher and realist.

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    Yeah if you get to speak to him, tell him we are all bigging him up as well as the VHW to liven things up!
    You know, it was in particular, the fact that yourself and Biohacker did not seem to be interested in the VHW anymore, that made me think my own thinking was wrong really wanting to own one myself.
    I thought "well if these boys arent even interested, then should I really be?"
    So the fact that you have one again and are full of praise for it, and now Biohacker is interested again also, before even visiting you to try yours...

    This makes me think- game on! The whole experience of it must be as good as I thought it looked. Im gonna try water curing some of my lovely weed from last year that I cant use due to the organic ferts we tried. If it works and makes it tolerable for me, as soon as Aromed can attract a new owner for great price, I am on it!!!:D
     
  15. ShadowVape

    ShadowVape Vrip CSR Manufacturer

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    What up family? Sorry for not being more active on here if I could work FC on my phone would be more convenient, but it wasn't vibing when I tried it and I'm just not at my work station as much as I used to be (a double edge sword I guess). That said, please never hesitate to ping ShadowVape at info@Vriptech.com if any pressing questions or issues with product we always want to dial in Flavor Country as fast as possible for whoever is searching. It's our Mission. I like to say it's your ritual, your session our tools because there really is a lot of variability in how our tools can be used to best match the preferences of the user...at the end of the day it's about getting the fullest spectrum results everyone would want if they knew the difference with the confidence that you're not getting anything you don't want because the whole path heating, extraction and delivery is glass.

    Lazylathe stoked to have you Vripping again, but to be clear that is older gear for sure. We tried the metallic coil to help wtih thermal transfer and quicken warm ups and also to extend the life of the glass cover years ago, but got away from it because the coil would eventually break down and discolor the glass and so many customers said they liked the uninhibited glow of the ceramic element under the glass. If it's working for you enjoy it (you can optionally remove the coil) and if you have any issues let me know we may still have some of the older elements to swap out when the time comes or will sort a legacy customer discounted swap out to ease the pain. Sorry there was confusion on the model spec when you got it, but we do still have at least a handful of the older rigs running out there because we get pics every once in awhile of people looking for the 2.0 replacement glass covers. We switched to the 3.0 element back in 2011 I think because it was simply more robust and reliable and it did require we retool the glass cover slightly to what we are currently still running, but many of the 2.0 elements (what you've got there in the pic) still performed well for years and I'm sure many are still providing clean heat today. Looks like you got one that hadn't been used much if at all! Makes me all nostalgic seeing it! I have one stashed for the collection somewhere.

    Biohacker I wish we had a chance to look at your downstem on the VWT you had and felt too restrictive as the downstem can make a huge difference and we have had some variances in the jetting over the years with some downstems having more restriction than others. I have had the girls packing orders compare to a sample downstem for some time now that is right about dead center perfect IMHO and we've had very few complaints about flow rate...we can also pick one with the least resistance or even provide one without the micro diffusion and just an open end if special requested (we've got three long time customers I know who prefer glug glug to micro diffusion so they always special order the downstems the old school open ended stylee). Relative to water tools made especially for smoking or dabbing ours will tend to have a bit more restriction by design as I've noticed it helps people to better milk the vapor proper without as much breath control required. For the Yogis amongst us with patience and excellent breath control it doesn't matter and the beauty of our system beyond the all glass purity and neutral polarity is the modular nature --- put our bowl on whatever tube or bubbler you prefer, low drag, mid drag or high drag and you're seshing your way. I've had some of the best Vrips I've ever had through Toro, Sovereignty, RooR and Mobius pieces that we've got in rotation amongst the crew here, but I use a VWT PerK as a daily driver at home and on the mountain in the geodome (I just love the ergonomics and function) and have a VWT BuB in my mobile kit I usually carry in the truck. Which reminds me we had a client send a picture of another adapted BuB rig awhile back where he took a double ended male to male adaptor and was running a VapeXhale hydrotube he loved on the BuB base as more or less a standard configuration water tool for Vrips and he swore that the restriction helped him milk it up better than another water tool without the restriction. All about personal preferences and configuring to best meet, but if the water pipe ritual isn't your thing VRIP probably isn't the best fit...if it is your thing we got your back, your head and your lungs well covered.

    We don't get asked as much as we used to back in the day when there were only a few dozen vape companies (probably dating myself here), but we still occasionally get asked what vaporizer we think is best if someone wasn't feeling a fit for the Vrip because of the fragility of glass or the water pipe ritual not being their thing. At the end of the day it's about what you'll use the most in my opinion. Vrip is really about self regulated (besides the potentiometer setting you can alter pull rate and/or the seal integrity to adjust temp on the fly) use of a neutral polarity heat tool in a water pipe ritual in pursuit of the ultimate inhalation...we've never tried to be the most modern, the easiest or the cheapest or the most durable it's just not our model. We're a glass based company for sure. The analogue controlled VHW stands as a testement to what I like to call the superiority of the "human sensor" as the reality is that the best vapor extractions require a thermal curve NOT single temp stability contrary to what many teach (including me before I more fully understood) and out of all the fancy digital controls out there very few have readouts that are actually accurate to the point of extraction where it counts. They do look cool though. To get the highest level of accuracy requires a metallic probe in your heat path (really inserted into your herbs) otherwise the best you can get is an approximation --- with analogue you know the baseline and from there it's on you to finesse to the thermal curve that gives you what you prefer in vapor qualities. With our clear scientific glass aesthetic and function you can literally watch your herbs getting vaporized with the ergonomics of most water tools...you can literally see if you're extracting as you want it by color change and/or back drafting from pausing the pull once you dial in.

    Alexis I'll check for your email for sure and thanks in advance for the interest and support. I'm not sure what is the best fit for you the Herbalizer or the Vrip, but getting to Flavor Country within the realm of taking old school water pipe rips really is our model's high elevation (pun intended) uniqueness in the space I think. No hoses or balloons or holding large heat units required, but a plug and a good place to session comfortably is required and a willingness to dial into the tools to figure out how to best use for your preferences and this can take a couple sessions sometimes. It's like my favorite vapor concierge SticksStones says it's not the best model for every session perhaps, but it works well for those "special occasions" when you're not in a huge rush. It's best for when you can take the time to enjoy not just "vapor", but a really accurate representation of the flower in all it's extracted full spectrum essence's glory with or without a hint of smoke to taste. And for many of our clients that's the only kind of session they want. For others it's their weekend or evening session while they use pens or other portables during most days on the run....these clients get an extra level of satisfaction I think because they assess the difference regularly.

    The market is crowded these days and there are a lot of excellent functioning devices so it's really about what fits one's preferences and routines the best and what material concerns you may or may not have relative to what you're inhaling thermally extracted vapor from. We're focused on our Qualitarian/Flavortarian niche because that's me and I don't see us changing that up. I also have a huge preference for water and/or ice conditioning pre-inhalation as it's the heat and dryness that does the most damage and not all vaporizer configurations mesh well with water pipes or bubblers.

    More on our low temp dab rig coming soon!
     
  16. lazylathe

    lazylathe Almost there...

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    Thanks for the Info @ShadowVape !!
    It's great to know my Vrip has some history and is still Vripping it up everyday!
    It is my daily driver and the heat up time does not bother me at all! if i want a quick hit, i have other devices!
    After a long day, Flavor Country is always a welcomed experience!
    As well as the massive clouds of any shade of vapor your heart desires!

    I am really getting the hang of this older wand and bowl combo!
    Milking up my RooR like it's nothing!
    I think i will keep the wrap on for now since it works so well and i can still see the glow between the wraps, so all good there! Loving the clear glass, it's awesome!!

    If this wand does eventually die, it will be replaced with the latest version!
    Thank you so much for the upgrade help as well in the future!!

    If there is a wish list out there for future iterations... I would love an inline power switch!
    That way i leave it plugged in and just flick/turn a switch/dial.

    Awesome vape company!!
     
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  17. biohacker

    biohacker Fucking Combustion Since 2006

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    Thanks Mark!!!!!! Spoken with class as usual! Respect.

    Sorry to badger, but is there a GonG tip heater cover in the near future? :brow:

    What is the stock seal now? Silicone or those thinner black or red seals still? I remember loving the non-silicone, but it kept moving/sliding up the wand. Silicone okay, but found I went through them alot due to breakdown (using the VHW at 3/4).
     
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  18. Alexis

    Alexis Open minded philosopher and realist.

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    Wow Mark your answers never cease to amaze me for their thoroughness and intricacy, and your passion shines through like nobody else I know practically, which is so refreshing.

    Everything you have explained is very revealing and clarifying thanks. The concept of the thermal curve in particular is so key to how the VHW works, I can see it now so clearly. It is a bit like a take off, looking down the runway.

    I have read this entire thread and gazed from afar dreaming of being a Vrip user one day. What always struck and amazed me, was the immense passion and enthusiasm with which you reached out to everybody with your answers and updates. So to finally be involved and see it all from a better angle is a really amazing experience!

    I love this forum but this is as good as it gets when you receive such brilliant and insightful answers as that, it really humbles me.

    I just need a number of things to come together in my life now before I know how I will be living so I hope to realise another dream in near time. Thanks again for gracing us with the best representation imaginable!
     
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  19. biohacker

    biohacker Fucking Combustion Since 2006

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    Nice post Alexis....and the best part is Mark has never changed, absolutely rock solid and consistent. Always impressing me that's forsure! I can't wait to Vrrrrrrip again! I just gotta dial down my allergies/sneezing with this one....for some reason the pure convection flavour country vape terpenes get me every time! And it's not just a couple of sneezes...we're talking double digits.
     
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  20. Alexis

    Alexis Open minded philosopher and realist.

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    Interesting you should say that because just earlier I was remembering how when I was at school, I used to put the end of my watch strap into my nostril to tickle and make me sneeze, cos it kind of gives you a buzz.

    I remember hearing once that if you sneeze 10 times in a row, you will have an orgasm!
    So if Mark ever needs an Ed G style review for the website homepage, he could quote you saying "the VHW is better than sex"!!!:rofl:

    Or even better an after Vrip video catching you in the act!

    I just need to make a quick confession- I am feeling so unbelievably better suddenly from my homeopathy- one of the biggest turn arounds from extremes I have ever felt.
    Not just physically, but I have a whole new consciousness suddenly- its like what was badly broken has suddenly been fixed! Its amazing, Im not anxious, worried. But relaxed and clear.

    I just finished my usual dysfunctional late meal however- Im still stuck in yestarday's routine.
    So Im feeling so good, I am considering putting one bowl in my Omnivap! I had a good edible dose, so a small vapor dose will be a really full experience in my good mood.

    Usually vaping during the course of homeopathy just isnt worth it, but I think I can pull this one off, so that by the time I do my steam inhalation when I get up, I will be good to start tomorrow's medicine and keep on top of the symptoms.

    Call it a half way treat, helps keep focus on the home straight! :D
     
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  21. biohacker

    biohacker Fucking Combustion Since 2006

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    This is not my experience :D And we're talking like sneezing 15-30 times in a row! lol

    As much as I LOVE the VHW.....it's not even close! ;)
     
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  22. lazylathe

    lazylathe Almost there...

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    It's 5pm which means it's time for that first bowl of the day!!
    Enter the Vrip heating in the corner, RooR Wt and some C-Weed.

    I love doing small loads in the Vrip!
    This one is 0,08g, hence the smallish cloud...LMAO!!
    I have inserted a screen to raise the bowl height, the herb is about 1cm closer to the heat source now.
    This was that load done to perfectly brown ABV!
    If i load the bowl with 0,1g it is insane clouds and the vapor is so thick!

    Click to play YouTube Video
     
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  23. biohacker

    biohacker Fucking Combustion Since 2006

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    5pm? You're too hard on yourself bro! 4:20!!! :D

    That C-Weed is outdoor fruity heaven! Wish we could find more quality outdoor..

    I know Mark practically bathes in the stuff :cool:;):freak:
     
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  24. Alexis

    Alexis Open minded philosopher and realist.

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    @lazylathe how about matey who sold you your wand being economical with the plain facts or what?!!
    I will never get these people who just can not tell the truth! They just shame themselves really, they think they can conceal how pathetic they are, but I have really come to understand lately, Shakespeare's famous saying "All the world's a stage".

    Everything is seen, by who or what exactly Im not certain, but by our own selves at the least.
    I mean why couldnt he just give you the facts? Perhaps you might not have gone to get it, but I bet you are glad you did.
    Still, I got no respect for dishonesty and sheepishness.

    That is why I love Mark so much for the way he is, he is as real as they come!
     
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  25. ShadowVape

    ShadowVape Vrip CSR Manufacturer

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    You're all too kind! Appreciate the props I really do. Thanks for posting the videos Splitz and lazylathe microdosing is definitely possible even with our standard bowls you just have to be sure to cover the whole screen with an even packed layer so that the resistance is evened out and you'll likely want to turn the heat up a notch to get a good extraction or as Splitz figured out use a different bowl all together --- we've seen quite a few rigged up that work great we just can't endorse it commercially because technically it conflicts with the Wheeler Volatizer patent. For those that go way back you may remember we used to make reduction spacers that could be inserted into our legacy bowls to effectively reduce the diameter and focus the heat on a smaller flow path so that you could pack less flower or for concentrates. We did have a number of clients that preferred the reduced bowl which is why we went slightly smaller on the 4.2s instead of bigger which would have been the other ISO option. If there is enough interest we can revisit that approach with the new bowls.

    And yes BioHacker one of the two revised VHW cover designs we have put energy into is two piece using joints at the base so the inner and outer cover are separate (at least initially not enough testing at temp to see if it will work to be able to seperate after a real duty cycle) this is how we were able to test an inner cover made out of quartz and an outer cover still made out of borosilicate. It worked really well in terms of the thermo dynamics because the quartz is more conductive than the glass (so you could run a lower potentiometer setting which in theory means a longer element life), but noone wants to know how much that proto cost trust me! Getting a design like that into a production environment and able to be completed at a cost that scales reasonably was where we were running into the first of two significant challenges on the revised design in production and bogged down. Even as a two piece full boro cover I think the two piece design is a better way to go so will get back on it as soon as we've got the low temp dab rig in production.
     

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