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Discussion in 'Plug-in Vaporizers' started by Volcano South, Oct 10, 2008.

  1. Vitolo

    Vitolo Vaporist

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    Just received a gift of a couple S&B Herb Mills .
    Not the ones that come with the Volcano, but these are massive, and can pulverize quite a bit of herb at once!
     
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  2. Dutchem

    Dutchem Member

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    The plunger for refilling the capsules is a great tool to have also. Makes it easy to put the lid on the can and you can then transfer it to the reducer valve. Buying a shovel dabber to fill your capsules is a time saver too! Just saying

    Yup love mine too!
     
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  3. Mr. Gusto Himself

    Mr. Gusto Himself 010003

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    Hey man! I actually started the account just to vouch for the Dosing Capsules. In my experience I have found this to be the greatest addition to my Volcano. Everything stays MUCH cleaner and exact dosing became effortless. The only drawback is having to fill/empty and clean the f’n things but if you’re like me (who likes doing things with his hands anyway) it’s like a ritual that I enjoy with my Tin-man and herbs.

    I bought the Filling Set S&B sells on their site but don’t use it too much. Normally I’ll have the same 4-5 in circulation until the lid gets too sticky. I will then dump them into an empty container with ISO and salt. (I personally don’t harvest this, but it is possible.) When I first got the reducer it came with ONE Dosing Capsule. I seriously ran like half a pound through this champ before I finally just decided to buy more. They’re built of a light aluminum that can easily bend and morph but can last a long time if taken care of. At 50 cents they are also cheap enough to just throw away (which some people do.)

    When you get yours and turn it on and are disappointed because the vapor isn’t as thick as you expected, remember to crank it up about 15C+.
    I was a bit let down in the beginning but found 15C was a good number to compensate for less wind blowing through the Capsule. The surface area just isn’t as big as your regular EZ valve chamber..

    I am vaping at 211C (this is my usual) I get about 2 DENSE, white bags (definitely coughers) and one lighter bag (I am using 2-ft bags so let’s say about 5ft of vape) with a .2 filling of a Capsule

    With friends I’ll be at 200C and get about 3 Solid, TASTY bags (6ft of vape) with the same .2 filling.
    And after work or at night I’ll be at 222C and get 2 THICK, WHITE bags (4ft) of the same dosage.


    REALLY recommend this shit.

    Oh and when you are up in those higher temps (220, 230) take the homie Baron23 up on flower with concentrates in the middle; Down here we call ‘em Cuban Sandwiches
     
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  4. Dutchem

    Dutchem Member

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    I usually fill my canister with .07/.08 of flower. Before I got the capsules I would fill the easy valve with about .1 to .15 gms. Went threw a lot of cannabis until I got the capsules. Have the digital and I do the first bag at 375 degrees. Second bag at 395. Third bag at 425 degrees. The leftover ABV goes into a jar to make oil or cannabutter. Never did notice much vapor difference from using the original valve and the reducer valve. Leftover ABV usually weighs out at .05
     
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  5. Mr. Gusto Himself

    Mr. Gusto Himself 010003

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    Man how do you load up so little?!?! That’s about half or even a third as much herb as me. I fill them up all the way but I think it may have something to do with how fine I grind tho — I use a Phoenician 2-pc grinder that cuts but does not “fluff.” Have a Cali Crusher 2.0 coming in tomorrow and that allegedly does both.. will post any findings.

    How fine a grind are you using??
     
  6. Dutchem

    Dutchem Member

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    I use the grinder that comes with the Volcano and was skeptical about the reviews of it but they were right it's a awesome grinder. I imagine there are finer grinders out there I don't see a need for anything more. Last night I took .32 gms of Red Eye OG and loaded 4 capsules. By the time I got to the 2nd bag I couldn't remember if it was my 1st bag or the 2nd. Lol. Like you I originally would fill the capsule up all the way. After experimenting I found I could get just as medicated by using less and still get 3 great bags of vapor. Unless I want to get super super medicated quickly and I do 2 bags. 1st bag at 405 degrees and 2nd bag at 428 degrees. Then it's nighty night time! LOL
     
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  7. Dutchem

    Dutchem Member

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    Just filled a tightly packed capsule to the brim. The weight was .14 gms. Capsules empty weight is .36 gms once filled they were .50 gms Filling the capsules at .08 gms and temps at 375, 395, and 425 seem to be the sweet spot for me when filling 3 bags. On my second bag of Gorila Glue #4 and I am toasty. No need for the 3rd. Lol
     
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  8. Baron23

    Baron23 Well-Known Member

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  9. Mr. Gusto Himself

    Mr. Gusto Himself 010003

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    Sorry dude I meant to get back to you last night.. tried your method and got so baked I was OUT!!! It seems that loading up the Capsules with about a .1 even had an effect on the temperature. I was at my usual 211C (411F) and like I said above with bigger packs I feel that at this temp I am actually at about 196C. Through the Lighter pack method I was experiencing the actual effects of a higher temp or the temp felt true to the 211C I was at. The vapor was a bit whispier but still had a body and was visible. I’m gonna mess around with quantities. Idk why it was just something I did once the first time and never messed with.

    Thanks for these awesome pics man — I’ll put some up after work today. One of the main reasons I don’t use the Filling Set is because I never got it to work with only 6G’s. It states on the instructions that it comes with 40 Capsules and each fits .15 (the numbers shown in your post) which does equal 6G’s. I’ve always had extra ones on the outside that never got filled and had to regrind another extra 1-2 grams to mke up for them depending on the tightness of the flower.
     
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  10. Dutchem

    Dutchem Member

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    Also have the 40 filling Capsules set. Tried once but because I have 8 strains that I rotate for tolerance reasons I don't see much use for it. Especially since filling the capsules with less herb works for me. Also usually fill 4 to 5 capsules of the same strain when that strain gets low. The herb shovel with the plunger that S&B sells fills the capsules real quick. I see the benefits if one wants to do 4 gms at once with the 40 Capsule Set though. When I did fill the Capsule set they did weigh out at .1 gm each.
     
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  11. Mr. Gusto Himself

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    I think the grind plays a huge factor in the capacity of the Capsules. Last night I was messing around with the grinder S&B supplies and got a whipped, ground consistency out of it. Even .1 looked to almost “fill” the unit.

    And today I got the Cali Crusher 2.0 Grinder which does live up to its claims about both cutting and fluffing your weed. I’m getting the exact output and consistency as I would from the S&B Grinder. (And it’s not that I don’t like their grinder .. it’s a fine grinder, I just don’t like the idea of grinding through plastic)

    I took pictures of said fluffage (having a hard time finding the attach function) and even the Capsules filled after. I got .144 out of one and .124 out of the other, MUCH better filling.

    In short: Grinders are important xP
     
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  12. stickstones

    stickstones Vapor concierge

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    Cram a nugget in that capsule and see how you like it.
     
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  13. Dutchem

    Dutchem Member

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    Recent post I had said that I didn't see the need for using the 40 Capsule Fill kit from S&B because I rotate the numerous strains I have due to high tolerance. Usually always fill up only 5 capsules at a time. Had a postcard laying around so I trimmed it so I could do my 5 capsules all at once. Would be a nice feature S&B to include in their 40 Capsule Filling Kit. Not a postcard though! lol
     
  14. Mr. Gusto Himself

    Mr. Gusto Himself 010003

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    Stuck a tiny pebble in one and got a pretty thin bag... kind of finger crushed it a bit and ran it through again and got 2 more bags LOL

    Man, this machine is a BEAST when it comes to extracting. It can do anything.

    SWEET hack dude HAHAAHA I’m not sure how the site is about posting external links to things so hopefully I don’t get this pulled due to a technicality.

    I don’t have one of these (yet) but can totally see myself using this and using it much more often than the “Full” 40-Set filling.

    https://delta3dstudios.com/storz-bickel-dosing-capsule-loading-tray/

    It’s pretty much the same thing but you fill 8 at a time. Wayyy convenient.


    I also wanted to point out just to people who are interested in micro-dosing in general, that the Dosing Capsules just make it easier to dose, but really aren’t necessary to dose oneself at all. When I first got my Volcano I bought the EZ Valve setup and whenever I wanted to Dose I would just fill up a Bag.. or 2 Bags.. or half a Bag. It’s really easy to just fill up whatever you need and take the Valve off the unit for later extracting. It cools down fast enough that there virtually is no waste (or at least in my experience there isn’t much worth noting)

    A filled chamber provides the best extraction and results, in my opinion. I do this to this day and am actually doing it right now!! Just out of sheer laziness to fill up a Cap, not to mention a filled chamber is FLAVOR Town.
     
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  15. Dutchem

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    Wish I had seen these before buying the Full 40 Filling Canister set. Quick easy setup for sure!
     
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  16. Mr. Gusto Himself

    Mr. Gusto Himself 010003

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    Right?!?!? I feel you.. But whatever, having the 40-Set available is cool — especially if one should decide to grow and have a plentiful stash available. Or hey man have you ever tried just straight mixing a few of said strains (or all 8, fuck it) and messing instead with the Temperature??

    What I am trying to say is I can achieve Sativa effects (at lower temps) with Indica-dominant strains. And Indica effects with Sativa strains (at higher temps)

    How about you, man??
     
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  17. Dutchem

    Dutchem Member

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    Have 6 little plastic containers I put 6 of my 8 strains I am using now. They are all indica's but have definitely thought about putting a sativa in the mix. Probably Blue Dream but not sure if that is a hybrid or a sativa. Have to do some researching. Anyways I had some ground bud that either leaked out of the canisters or when a canister accidently got opened. Upon gathering it all up and putting it to filling capsule I got .011 gms. I then put it in the Cano and vaped at 355, 385, and 415. Put me out for about 1 1/2 and all I can say is wow! I got 3 full bags of great vapor.
    For the week I have been keeping a journal and still experimenting with different temps. Experimenting now starting with a low temp for first bag, second bag i bump it up to a medium temp, and then 3rd bag gets a high temp vape. Also experimenting with delaying the next bag by 15 to 20 minutes before vaping the next bag. Usually do 2 to 3 bags back to back with no delays.
    Bummer going to Calif and can't take the Cano with me. Looks like combustion time n Cal. Yuk!
     
  18. pseudox

    pseudox Well-Known Member

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    I am in a limited medical state, I can only buy whole flower in ceramic pods that you can use in volcano type vapes. I have been looking for a large easy valve chamber or adapter that is bigger then the standard one. If anyone knows where to get them please let me know. Thanks.
     
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  19. shredder

    shredder Well-Known Member

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    Have you tried contacting stortz and Bickel? That would probably be your best bet.

    Sux on the pods btw. Hopefully they change your laws to something less crazy.
     
  20. Used2use

    Used2use Sometimes to stupid to become a fool

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    There are only 2 sizes with the easy valve afaik - 30mm diameter standard bowl and 15mm for the s&B capsules with the reducer insert. Never heard of such ceramic pods, can't u just open them?
     
  21. Vaporcussion

    Vaporcussion Well-Known Member

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    What are the sizes of these pods? Can you open them?
     
  22. Baron23

    Baron23 Well-Known Member

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    This has got to be FL with its ridiculous excuse for a MMJ program despite the voters clear intention via the constitutional amendment that they passed.

    This is true as far as I know also.
     
  23. pseudox

    pseudox Well-Known Member

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    Yes this is Florida. Legislators made the law so you cant have "smokeable" marijuana, this includes whole flower.

    Trulieve, the dispensary makes two types of ceramic pods. One is smaller and can fit into a re-branded Airistech Herova vaporizer. The other are larger ceramic pods,filled with buds, with a course mesh steel covering called Truflower (Or entourage cup). Truflower is to be used in a Volcano clone called The phantom. The funny thing is, The dispensary sells the phantom vaporizer rebranded for $750. I found and bought the same one online for $150. The herova has ground herb but I have never tried to open it. The truflower could be opened maybe with small steel cutters.

    I can use the phantom vaporizer with the truflower, but the easy valve filling chamber is not vertically large enough to fit the truflower pod securely. SO I have to constantly hold the top on when filling balloons. AT the dispensary, it appears they are using a filling chamber with a much taller bottom housing, allowing the ceramic pod to be fully covered.

    I know I could just open them, but I'm trying to be legit. There will be a hearing on allowing flower to be sold soon.

    I also know this type of law is laughable for many in other medical or legal states. The industry is very new here, and, like they say, "We have to learn to walk before we can run."
     
  24. SMODomite

    SMODomite Well-Known Member

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    That is crazy, any way you can break the pods open and then just use the contents in your volcano as needed? I don't think they make a large easy valve chamber, you would probably need to get the solid valve if you want a bigger chamber.

    I thought NJ's program was restrictive with little to no concentrates, but I just qualified for my card so once I get it in the next month and a half I will get to really see what NJ offers, but they had least have flower you can buy
     
  25. Baron23

    Baron23 Well-Known Member

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    Please, my friend, do not take my criticism of FL MMJ program to be in any way a criticism of its citizens or even the state as a whole. I have lived many, many years in central and south FL.

    But I'm with Morgan and who ever else is suing the shit out of your state government for basically telling the FL electorate to shove it, they know what's better for them than they do themselves. I have read the amendment. I have read the law/reg that is included by reference for the definition of marijuana. IMO, there is absolutely no fucking way that your legislature and Governor didn't blatantly do everything they could to thrwart the will of the people when they wrote these ridiculous law/regulations.

    And brother, its all about money. $750 for a "proprietary" vape to use their "proprietary" ceramic pods. And in these pods, you said there was bud. Whole bud? So, are you finding that these do not extract completely as they aren't ground and it would appear that you have no way to break them up during the session? Am I missing something.

    Yes, walk before running...but its really not an experience deficit that has resulted in this situation. My state has just opened its MMJ program in Dec. Yeah, they screwed up some stuff but over all its a good program. In FL, the sole cause of this current mess is indeed the unmitigated arrogance of your state politicians and their callousness to the democratic process shown in their efforts to hamstring this program any way they can.

    VOTE THEM OUT. SUPPORT ANYONE WHO IS SUING THEIR ASSES OFF.

    They work for us, after all. Not the other way around.
     

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