Volcano

[Thcgos]

I tried some finely powdered passionflower in the SV, and all that happens is the fine powder blows upward and entered the actual bag itself. What am I doing wrong?

Hey @huxley

You could use the liquid pad ontop of your load. It will still let vapor through and it will act as a super fine screen.

Or; As has been mentioned prior, you could use a fine screen (that is meant to be for the bottom of the chamber) and use it for the top.
Although, for dust consistency i find that it still lets the finest dust particles in. Youd be better off with the liquid pad IMHO.

 

[CanadianBakin]

Hi everyone, I'm new to the volcano with solid valve.

I tried some finely powdered passionflower in the SV, and all that happens is the fine powder blows upward and entered the actual bag itself. What am I doing wrong?

I had problems like this. The insert wasn't fitting snugly and would get blown out of place while preheating. When I'd clip the bag on, vapour would leak and stuff would get into the bag.

To avoid this, make sure that the top disc is seated flat in the indentation. When the base reaches temperature, put the chamber on the base. Before turning on the air to preheat, I take the valve and place it on the chamber without clipping. Tilt it a bit so the valve holds the disc in place. Turn on the air and preheat. When I see/smell vapour, I clip the bag on.

Also, someone a few pages back posted about using the fine screens, so that's something else to try.

 

[huxley]

Who said anyting about 25/1000's of a gram? I said .25 as in a quarter of a gram.

Sorry on your other question, I don't know anything about vaping peppermint or passionflower. However, S&B do make fine screens for both easy and solid valve...

Thanks for the info on the fine screen. Sorry, yes I know you said 0.25g and I was asking about 0.025g. I was just using your post as a starting point to talk about this, which just added to the confusion.

I was just wondering if there would be some problem to do tiny micro-doses in the volcano, if 0.025g could actually work in the solid valve, or in the new dispensing caps or otherwise.

But I also see now the bowl can be lifted off the whole volcano in between uses, so maybe this is better or limits the need for tiny bowl sizes.

Hey @huxley

You could use the liquid pad ontop of your load. It will still let vapor through and it will act as a super fine screen.

Or; As has been mentioned prior, you could use a fine screen (that is meant to be for the bottom of the chamber) and use it for the top.
Although, for dust consistency i find that it still lets the finest dust particles in. Youd be better off with the liquid pad IMHO.

Thanks, I'll have to experiment with the liquid pad.

I had problems like this. The insert wasn't fitting snugly and would get blown out of place while preheating. When I'd clip the bag on, vapour would leak and stuff would get into the bag.

To avoid this, make sure that the top disc is seated flat in the indentation. When the base reaches temperature, put the chamber on the base. Before turning on the air to preheat, I take the valve and place it on the chamber without clipping. Tilt it a bit so the valve holds the disc in place. Turn on the air and preheat. When I see/smell vapour, I clip the bag on.

Also, someone a few pages back posted about using the fine screens, so that's something else to try.

@CanadianBakin Thank you, that's very interesting.

So if I push the little disc all the way down to the bottom, say, just 1mm from the top of 0.1g of herb, that after I fill up a bag, it should remain exactly where I put it?

If it doesn't, does that mean there is something wrong with my unit or just my technique?

I am wondering if the little disc is looser in mine than it should be. Does the friction of this little disc or do they get looser over time? Or instead is there is a lot of unit variability on this piece such that some stay firmly down and others don't?

I will have to experiment with the technique you are describing about holding the valve down tilted and only clipping at the last minute gets around this. Thank you

 

[Silat]

I was just wondering if there would be some problem to do tiny micro-doses in the volcano, if 0.025g could actually work in the solid valve, or in the new dispensing caps or otherwise.

Yes you can use small doses in the solid valve. I do it all the time. Large or small makes no difference to the mighty V.

 

[CanadianBakin]

@CanadianBakin Thank you, that's very interesting.

So if I push the little disc all the way down to the bottom, say, just 1mm from the top of 0.1g of herb, that after I fill up a bag, it should remain exactly where I put it?

I wasn't talking about the screen, but the other disc at the top - the one the valve seats against. There's an indent in the chamber for it to sit in and the disc is supposed to be seated flat in that indent. If it isn't seated properly, the valve can leak and/or blow stuff into the bag.

The instructions don't mention anything about this, so I guess they're expecting that screen to be snug enough to stay in place during preheat. I have 2 solid valves, and even with new screens, neither is very snug. I've just added some steps to the ritual: check that the disc is seated and hold it down during preheat.

The screens also get looser with use. After each cleaning (ISO soak), I try to stretch them back out and flatten them as much as I can.

 

[Vitolo]

Here is a glass (8 inch bud vase) of 91% Iso with the "mouth end" of a cut off Volcano bag sitting in it...

It is waiting for the treatment that leads to the Volcano Reclaim Porn at http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/volcano.220/page-45#post-550843

Results of the above reclaim:

4 Grams of Reclaim from 2 bags.

 

[SMODomite]

Results of the above reclaim:

4 Grams of Reclaim from 2 bags.

Damn thats a nice haul! Did you heat the iso mix on a hot plate or anything to get the alcohol out or the sit and wait method?

 

[Cnova203]

Results of the above reclaim:

4 Grams of Reclaim from 2 bags.

Looks awesome

 

[Vitolo]

Damn thats a nice haul! Did you heat the iso mix on a hot plate or anything to get the alcohol out or the sit and wait method?

72 hours on a shelf.
at hour 48... there were puddles of clear water beaded up.. I tasted to assure no alcohol remaining.
I let the water beads evap completely on their own.

 

[Baron23]

Thanks for the info on the fine screen. Sorry, yes I know you said 0.25g and I was asking about 0.025g. I was just using your post as a starting point to talk about this, which just added to the confusion.

I was just wondering if there would be some problem to do tiny micro-doses in the volcano, if 0.025g could actually work in the solid valve, or in the new dispensing caps or otherwise.

But I also see now the bowl can be lifted off the whole volcano in between uses, so maybe this is better or limits the need for tiny bowl sizes.




Thanks, I'll have to experiment with the liquid pad.




@CanadianBakin Thank you, that's very interesting.

So if I push the little disc all the way down to the bottom, say, just 1mm from the top of 0.1g of herb, that after I fill up a bag, it should remain exactly where I put it?

If it doesn't, does that mean there is something wrong with my unit or just my technique?

I am wondering if the little disc is looser in mine than it should be. Does the friction of this little disc or do they get looser over time? Or instead is there is a lot of unit variability on this piece such that some stay firmly down and others don't?

I will have to experiment with the technique you are describing about holding the valve down tilted and only clipping at the last minute gets around this. Thank you

Hi Huxley - ooops, sorry for misreading your post on load size. Its so easy to have misunderstandings in electronic communications. Cheers

 

[Slow Draw McGraw]

Results of the above reclaim:

4 Grams of Reclaim from 2 bags.

That looks like some strong medicine!

 

[Vitolo]

That looks like some strong medicine!

Seems to be plenty strong! (perhaps a bit harsh)

 

[SMODomite]

If anyone is in the market now, it looks like vapor nation is giving you a free volcano carrying bag with the purchase of a cano. I would probably get mine from them, but they don't accept paypal which I will be using so I will need to go either straight to Storz and Bickel or puffitup

 

[TheVaporist]

Hi all !
I come to give some love to the volcano!
The party beast, the tank of the vape world!

I have mine (solid valve) for a decade, so long that I can't remember when I bought it !
Is ID is 4xxx, and after all this time nothing is wrong, it work like new bags after bags! For me the only problem I have is the noise.

I've a lot of vapes, but I think I will never selling it because it's so intemporal, so simple. I will certanly give it to my child, and him to his child and so on....

It's not the most efficient, it's not the most advanced and certainly not the fanciest, but you could kill a room with a 2 meter bag and that is priceless

Wrote while sipping a mazar's balloon

 

[Baron23]

Hi all !
I come to give some love to the volcano!
The party beast, the tank of the vape world!

I have mine (solid valve) for a decade, so long that I can't remember when I bought it !
Is ID is 4xxx, and after all this time nothing is wrong, it work like new bags after bags! For me the only problem I have is the noise.

I've a lot of vapes, but I think I will never selling it because it's so intemporal, so simple. I will certanly give it to my child, and him to his child and so on....

It's not the most efficient, it's not the most advanced and certainly not the fanciest, but you could kill a room with a 2 meter bag and that is priceless

Wrote while sipping a mazar's balloon

What I like about it in particular is its ability to reproduce the same results time after time with no user technique needed. This is very helpful to me when trying to fine tune a level of medication for my back pain and sleep issues.

I'm sure that there are more efficient vapes out there, but I seem to get pretty good extraction from small partial chamber loads (.15 - .2). Also, I save the Volcano AVB to make into butter. I don't with my GH or conductive vapes with their much darker AVB.

Cheers

 

[TheVaporist]

What I like about it in particular is its ability to reproduce the same results time after time with no user technique needed. This is very helpful to me when trying to fine tune a level of medication for my back pain and sleep issues.

I'm sure that there are more efficient vapes out there, but I seem to get pretty good extraction from small partial chamber loads (.15 - .2). Also, I save the Volcano AVB to make into butter. I don't with my GH or conductive vapes with their much darker AVB.

Cheers

I totaly forget to mention that, but that's a huge feature, especially for medical use. This ability to stay consistent is really helpfull on isolating the cannabinoid and reproducing the same experience every time is really important.
For now, I'm just a recreational user, and this feature makes me able to stay productive in the day, and to stay on the couch at night

I do have good extraction on a small load also, there is a common misconception about the volcano, that you have tyo put a lot, but barely covering the screen is sufficient, and as you say the AVB is really good at making extract !
I use it to make some oil after a little water curing

Also, these low temp are awesome for people who doesn't use cannabis , they're always blown away by the flavor, without the deadly high hitingt their faces

 

[vapewithape]

Hello guys!

New to this forum but not new to vaping

Previously had a MFLB and an Arizer Air

Got a 5 month old Volcano on Craigslist and now am trying to get the best use out of it

I have a SUPER high tolerance and the buds i use are pretty pricey and when combusting get me VERY blazed

But when I am using the volcano i dont seem to get as high which is weird bc others have said you get more high

I put about 0.1 to 0.2 into the easy fill chamber (not solid valve the easy one) and then fill up two bags around 375-390 F

After the second bag even if i take it up to 400 i barely get any vapor.

When I was done with the buds in the Arizer Air and MFLB it would be a dark golden brown to dark brown

Even after three bags the material is still a golden green not quite all brown

Is my Volcano defective or is the bud simply not good as I thought?

Any help is greatly appreciated I got this unit to get me more blazed but use and smoke less but it seems im using more trees and getting less high

 

[Vitolo]

Try higher heat... maybe the heat indicator is functioning poorly.

 

[TheVaporist]

Although, if you want to better feel the high with vaping, you need to stop smoking.
Your body are used to the chemical buzz who comes with the combustion, and this is a huge barrier when you want to fully feel the vape's high.

It may be a good thing to have a little T-break

Welcome in the volcano world!

 

[Baron23]

Hello guys!

New to this forum but not new to vaping

Previously had a MFLB and an Arizer Air

Got a 5 month old Volcano on Craigslist and now am trying to get the best use out of it

I have a SUPER high tolerance and the buds i use are pretty pricey and when combusting get me VERY blazed

But when I am using the volcano i dont seem to get as high which is weird bc others have said you get more high

I put about 0.1 to 0.2 into the easy fill chamber (not solid valve the easy one) and then fill up two bags around 375-390 F

After the second bag even if i take it up to 400 i barely get any vapor.

When I was done with the buds in the Arizer Air and MFLB it would be a dark golden brown to dark brown

Even after three bags the material is still a golden green not quite all brown

Is my Volcano defective or is the bud simply not good as I thought?

Any help is greatly appreciated I got this unit to get me more blazed but use and smoke less but it seems im using more trees and getting less high

It just not possible to say if your Volcano is working correctly. I believe that my loads tend to be .15 but more often .2 - .25 g's and I get plenty of vapor. If I'm going for the good night bag I will start at 385 (bit high for many) and get definite vapor and definite psychotropic effects.

NOW, VERY IMPORTANT....to vape with pretty much any vaporizer, your herb needs to be dried out. I know, I know...this goes against a lifetime of effort to keep your bud alive and fresh. But take out some buds you are planning to vape, grind them (any grinder will work but I like the New Vape fine grinder...its a beast), and then LET IT DRY.

Some will just let it sit on a piece of printer paper for 15 -20 minutes. I tend to grind in a bit of bulk (maybe an 1/8 at a time) and set it in a pollen box I have to dry out for a few days before I can it in a Space Case or Vac container. I then vape this herb. Dry is important.

My AVB from the Volcano comes out nice and dark tan (not dark brown like my convective vapes) and there are a few still greenish pieces which I personally believe to be pieces of sticks and stems. I get good extraction with the AVB looking like this.

If I really want to cook, I will go as high as 422 for a last bag on a load for sedative purposes but it starts to get pretty harsh at that temp. Went once to 446 (max temp) and don't really see the need unless I'm making a herb/shatter sandwich in a reduced chamber dosing capsule (don't worry about this stuff yet...let's get your Cano working first, eh?).

The fact that you are citing specific temps, may I take it that you have the digital display Volcano?

Frankly, although I can't tell a dang thing via the internet, I suspect your Craiglist used unit may not be all that it can.

Also, did you check the air filter on the bottom. Open it up and see what condition the foam air filter is in...that might be your issue??

 

[strictly vapor]

Hey vapewithape, welcome to FC!

In my experience those who come from a combustion background tend to need a higher temperature to really appreciate the effects, and because your tolerance is high I would suggest filling the easy valve chamber with about 0.5-0.7 and bumping the temperature up to 210C (410F) to start, and you can adjust up or down from there as you discover the temperatures you like best.

Another tip to get the most powerful vapor from your volcano is to place the easy valve on the unit and run the fan for 3-7 seconds before putting the bag on top, this prevents any air diluting your vapor, as the first few seconds often don't produce much.

I always fill my easy valve chamber full, but rarely finish a bowl in 1 sitting. A few bags often does the trick for me, and I can come back to finish the bowl at a later time. Because of this I find the volcano to be efficient for me.

**When using this vape by myself I tend to fill the bags 1/3 full, empty, and repeat. This keeps the vapor fresh and is easier on the throat.

If your unit is functioning half decently the above method should be extremely satisfying. My experience is that over time you will slowly adopt lower temperatures, but for now you will be looking to extract some heavy hitting, high temp vapor.

Hope this helps!

 

[Thcgos]

Hello guys!

New to this forum but not new to vaping

Previously had a MFLB and an Arizer Air

Got a 5 month old Volcano on Craigslist and now am trying to get the best use out of it

I have a SUPER high tolerance and the buds i use are pretty pricey and when combusting get me VERY blazed

But when I am using the volcano i dont seem to get as high which is weird bc others have said you get more high

I put about 0.1 to 0.2 into the easy fill chamber (not solid valve the easy one) and then fill up two bags around 375-390 F

After the second bag even if i take it up to 400 i barely get any vapor.

When I was done with the buds in the Arizer Air and MFLB it would be a dark golden brown to dark brown

Even after three bags the material is still a golden green not quite all brown

Is my Volcano defective or is the bud simply not good as I thought?

Any help is greatly appreciated I got this unit to get me more blazed but use and smoke less but it seems im using more trees and getting less high

I tend to agree with you.
I sometimes get lighter colour material than I used to in my arizer solo, but the effects are amazing in the volcano.
Convection generally tends to have lighter colour ABV, but still full effects.

2 suggestions:

1. Get the volcano ABV, pack an air stem with the volcano ABV. Run it at the same temp and see if you get any clouds? (Note: Just make sure the coulds aren't from the charing from the material at the bottom of your stem coming in contact with the stainless steel chamber.)
2. Run the volcano at higher temps (as someone else suggested) might be a temp calibration issue.

 

[danielnatvik]

If you haven't used it before I really would recommend the Volcano.

Mod note: post edited to remove affiliate link

 

[mainmanmayonnaise]

@SMODomite:
Volcano is a nice Option for Groupsessions without worrying about your Gear.
If you have got the Chance to lend one or try one out, i would say do it a longer Time, as the Volcano is a quite unique Vape with the Bag system and some people love it, some don t - it s just not for everybody.

Also, read up on the new Capsules and reducer for the Herb chamber - stock Volcano can be a real Weed Hog.

I own a Volcano and have used it pretty much daily for over 10 years. I also own about a dozen other vaporizers and have tried many others. If you think it's a "weed hog", you're using it wrong. The Volcano is as efficient as any other top-grade vaporizer out there, if not more so. Perhaps you use it like I've seen others do, where the user thinks the screen has to be covered at the bare minimum. Not true. Try taking a tiny pinch of strong herb and put it in the chamber, spreading it evenly across the screen. A pinch won't cover the screen but it doesn't matter. Make sure the valve is clean enough and turn up the heat to 8 or whatever that is on a digital version and fill up a bag. That tiny pinch will get you blasted and after that one bag, the herb will contain a very little amount of psychoactive compounds left. This can be confirmed by saving up a bunch and cooking with it. Quite a bit of ABV is required when the material was vaporized this way.

I mostly vape solo now and it is most definitely as efficient or more efficient than my other vaporizers. The only kind I haven't tried are the ones that use hot air guns on glass bongs but those look like they require large loads and appear to be more of a "weed hog" than the Volcano.

 

[blackstone]

I agree with @mainmanmayonnaise , and if you keep adding a pinch for each bag without emptying, they get better and better.
I just ordered the chamber reducer and I was like "I can so get by without this"! but I got it 'cause I'm nosey, and for research.
It goes against thinking to put so little in such a large bowl, but yeah.

For @vapewithape Another thing that helped me transition from combustion, was I read or heard in a YT video somewhere, that "you can/should hold in the vapor longer and become more friendly with it than smoke, as (we think) it's much less harmful" This probably helps deliver the effects better, you may be used to exhaling nasty smoke quicker?
The cano manual also tries to emphasize breathing techniques.
Maybe try holding it in for 3-8 seconds? partly re-circulating on exhale etc

Also I wanted to thank @Vitolo for the 377F temperature recommendation.
It is now my permanent setting for normal use, anything else being too low or high! And amazing it works great with small pinches or seemingly half loading a chamber like he does (gonna try that this wknd maybe! 1.5 meter bags next!)

Now my Green "AIR" button is really starting to give trouble, it was always a bit iffy and stresses me out trying to end a bag fill sometimes. (the complete opposite desired effect of owning a good vape!)
Is it the Digit push button gives the most trouble? I think the Classic has rocker switches?
My unit is 8 months old but the switch is acting up for a good while now.
I guess this means sending it back now too, ugh..