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Vivant Dabox

Discussion in 'Portable Vaporizers' started by duff, Jul 21, 2017.

  1. grokit

    grokit well-worn member

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    The coils just pop out/back in when the door is open.
    The replacements are $5 each, also available in 3-packs.

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  2. mephisto

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    Got a chance to use my dabox for the first time last night. Needed to readjust after 2 days out kayaking. Loaded a very small amount (rice sized) of extract and a small flake of cbd crumble. A short press of the power button and I was a marshmallow. This device feels well made, it hits like a train, and it is very affordable. Great work Vivant!
     
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    It came set up with the dual coil, so I used that.
     
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  5. grokit

    grokit well-worn member

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    Cool. From what I understand the unit comes with two dual coils, and the pre-order also includes the single coil. The latter seems like it would be useful for preserving battery life? I'll have mine soon, probably later today so I can see for myself which of the two dual coils this device comes set up with by default.

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  6. mephisto

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    This thing has a hair trigger. I am used to leaning on the button with temp controlled devices. I am going gently with power application. I got 2 hits from my single loading as described. I am talking less than 1 mississippi type power button use. Fair Warning!
     
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  7. grokit

    grokit well-worn member

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    That's coil dependent.
    You must be using the dual quartz with its 'quick fire' feature. The dual clapton reportedly operates at the lowest temperature, while the single clapton seem to be optimized for 'flavor' & 'instant hits'. I'd like to hear about how your dual quartz's 'all-day optimized battery function' interfaces with the 'quick fire' part.


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  8. Vivant

    Vivant Well-Known Member Manufacturer

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    Hey @subway13029 , yes the Dabox are available on our website already. It is also making its way to retailers this week. Thank you!

    Hey @Marihuana , yes the coils are completely replaceable, just remember to keep the coil adaptor as the replacement coils do not come with them since the adaptor is made to last a long time. Please feel free to ask us any questions, thank you!

    Hello @grokit and @mephisto , the coils that come inside the dabox is the Dual Quartz Clapton Coil , the spare is the Dual Quartz Coil and is placed in the accessories box upon unboxing. However, at any time you guys want clarification, the name of the coil is lasered onto side of the coil :)


    Thank you to everyone who has placed their orders already and for your continuous support.
    We hope everyone will enjoy the Dabox as much as we do.
    Truly looking forward to your continuous responses/feedback/questions on here, feel free to reach out to us any time!

    Hope you all have an amazing week! - Emily & Ian from The Vivant Team.
     
  9. grokit

    grokit well-worn member

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    Here's my dabox review so far. I grabbed one on impulse, at the end of the pre-order. I am planning on making my way to modular devices, but I don't have everything in place for mod school yet so I thought this would make a nice stopgap.

    I've tried all three coils and they do perform differently. First all I had was shatter, so I stuck a small piece on the dual quartz and the flavor quickly degraded. It really does have a hair-trigger, but this is coil-dependent because the power applied to the coil is regulated by the resistance of the coil. The dual quartz has .5ohm resistance, and is described as having a 'quick fire' feature with all-day battery optimization. So it fires hot, then slopes down to preserve power. I didn't like the taste of this coil very much, even the next day when I put some wax in it. The flavor improved a little bit, but not that much because of the probably burnt shatter. I did try to be careful with the trigger but yeah. This coil would be better with oils.

    Next up I tried the dual clapton with the wax, it has a .25ohm resistance setting and utilizes lower temperatures. The taste was much smoother, idk about good but it was way better than it was with the dual quartz. I could get used to this one.

    Now I've got the single clapton going with the wax. It also has .25ohm resistance and it's described as being designed for instant hits. So it's pretty fast too, but the taste is still better than with the quartz. It's basically the same as the double clapton with less capacity so the extraction time is twice as fast, according to simple math. My experience confirms.

    :cool:Here's a slightly-animated image that shows & describes the different coils for the vivante dabox.

    I love how small and pocketable the dabox is, and the price is right considering that it includes a battery. The packaging is attractive and clean, not overblown. The battery life seems very good, as I haven't had to re-charge yet and I started using it almost a week ago. I really like the visual feedback light, because besides changing color based on battery condition, it also provides a great view of the instantly-available vapor this thing cranks out through its glass vapor chamber/mouthpiece. The quick-change coil system is simple & convenient, just the way it should be. The all-metal body feels sturdy enough to drive small nails with, if one was so inclined. I'd advise removing the glass chamber first before trying to do this.

    I only have two gripes, which considering the price and convenience aren't deal-breakers by any means.

    While I love the form factor, the ergonomics are a little off. What I'm saying is that it's awkward to use the dabox one-handed, if you want to actually view the illuminated vapor you are inhaling, which as I described above, is one of dabox's coolest features. The issue is the fire button is on the opposite side of the viewing chamber. So if you have the chamber facing outward, which is required for viewing by the user or others observing, the trigger is basically pressing against the webbing of the hand between the thumb & index finger. This means it's easy to misfire, and awkward to fire. It's hard to describe, but I find myself needing to use both hands to press the button and view the vapor at the same time.

    The other thing is the silicon splash guard that seals the glass chamber to the metal body. I would have rather seen some kind of looser screen, that would be made out of /part of the glass vapor tube. There would have to be an o-ring to seal it against the metal, but we'd be vaping through all glass instead of silicon, and would just need to have an extra to soak. The silicon doesn't show any signs of heat degradation yet, but it does get clogged pretty easily so it needs constant cleaning, meaning it will wear out.
    edit: I had noted that it would be good to provide an extra extra splash guard in the package, and was promptly informed that they are doing just that, so mine either got lost or missed the boat.

    The standard package does include both double coils; the single was thrown in with the pre-order deal and I'm glad they did, as I do prefer the clapton coils with this device so far. Replacement coils are $5 each, and will be available in 3-packs. There's a usb charging cable, and there's a pretty nice small glass dab tool in there too. They've also included some small silicon cups, that seal up the spare coil/atomizer thingies like tupperware containers. I'm thinking that these could be used to make up pre-loaded coils, for consuming later or elsewhere. These cups could also be useful for odor control.

    I'll come back when I've run the coils through some cleaning rituals, but for now this is what I've got. I'm pretty new at concentrates in general, but I feel that I've got a decent handle on the dabox. It's part of a small niche that includes and competes with tiny mods & rebuildable atomizers. This is simpler to use out of the box than those, but less versatile.

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  10. Vivant

    Vivant Well-Known Member Manufacturer

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    Hello @grokit

    Thank you for taking the time and providing a very thorough review of your experience with the Dabox. I will make sure to relay your thoughts and feedback to our team of designers/engineers. Your unique input is truly valued.

    I would just like to clarify that the kit should have came with an extra silicone splash cover inside the Accessories box, so please let me know if you didn't receive this.

    All accessory parts are available for individual purchase on our website as well.
    Also, just a side note that the glass chamber replacement's come with a silicone splash cover when purchased separately.

    Please keep us updated as to how the Dabox performs for you and feel free to contact me if you have any questions/concerns and I will be more than happy to address them.

    Thank you again,
    Ivan
    CSR
     
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  11. grokit

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    Thank you. I went and checked the box again and couldn't find a splashguard, not a big deal but I'm glad the policy is to include an extra one. I also went and edited my review accordingly.

    That's good news that one is included with the replacement glass chamber, I was wondering about that.

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  12. JCharles

    JCharles ACMPR registered 26/07/2017

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    Going to pull the trigger one of these Dabbox'.

    Any reviews, tips, coil recommendations?

    Hows the battery life?

    How do you clean a coil?

    @Vape Dr. - how would i attach this to a water pipe like the D020? Milianna mouthpiece and what kind of adapter or tubing?
     
  13. grokit

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    As I mentioned in the review I like their dual clapton coil, I plan on picking up a 3-pack of them :tup:

    Soaking them in iso should be fine, I haven't gotten around to it yet myself. The other method is to use an ultrasonic waterbath type of cleaning device, which I plan of trying out pretty soon for comparison.

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  14. JCharles

    JCharles ACMPR registered 26/07/2017

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    Thanks @grokit , much appreciated advice.


    Just want to make sure I understand how to use this thing.

    Assuming HBO shatter at a 0.2g and the double Clapton...

    - i may need to fire (quick press) the coils to have my shatter stick to them. And I'm putting the wax on the coils themselves?

    - press the fire button for ?? to melt the shatter onto the rods, and then hold/tap the fire button during inhalation? I don't want to hold it down for an extended period (5-10 seconds)?

    - after one to three pulls the chamber should be empty?

    -wait to cool and refill if wanted. Is this a couple seconds or a few minutes?

    -Soak in iso and air dry to clean.

    Apologies for the questions, never used a coil before and have a dabox arriving tomorrow (come on PV and Canada Post!!). I initially bought the Puffco Plus because coils kinda seem intimidating.
     
  15. grokit

    grokit well-worn member

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    This is a good intro to coil use. @Vivant would be well served by introducing a dish-based atomizer, to make the dabox a little more competitive:2c:. My other answers are inline^ with your quoted questions.

    It sounds like you're more prepared than I was lol, make sure you post your impressions here :tup:

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  16. JCharles

    JCharles ACMPR registered 26/07/2017

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    Fantastic, Thanks!!


    Edit
    I should have mine by tomorrow. Planetvape.ca is the best!!
     
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  17. JCharles

    JCharles ACMPR registered 26/07/2017

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    My DAbOX arruved today. Our a few pics up on Instagram you can check out. I'll get a proper review and some videos and closeups posted shortly.

    https://www.instagram.com/p/BYPHf2QjTCY/

    If your waiting to pull the trigger, go for it. This thing rips!!
     
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  18. ohmygodimsohigh

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    Click to play YouTube Video


    I posted a full video review (and overly thorough demonstration/blaze session)

    There's also a giveaway (I have 3 extras to give away)

    Giveaway entry is here: http://420vapezone.com/vivant-dabox-review/

    Cliffs notes: DaBox hits like a brick to the head. The small size and easy to use flip out coil make this device great for anyone looking for a portable dab solution.

    AFTER shooting this video I demo'd this device with a local stoner crowd. We compared the DaBox, the Omicron, the CF710, traditional dab-rig (enail), and the Sainoara/Pico combo. The DaBox got used the MOST by stoners without significant dab experience (and they all loved it)

    I started taking notes, but things got too far out of hand too quickly...
     
  19. Baron23

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    I'm a bit late to the party, but yes...they sell coils:

    https://vivant.store/collections/accessories-dabox
     
  20. JCharles

    JCharles ACMPR registered 26/07/2017

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    @ohmygodimsohigh that is an epic review. I started the video and was entertained for the entire 17+ minutes.

    My only gripe with the DAbOX so far is the silicone screen getting plugged. I'm almost at the point where I might not use it.

    You mentioned liking the dual quartz over the Clapton - I'm going to have to try that coil.

    Any other tips you've learned over the past month that will help us newbies get the technique down?
     
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  21. ohmygodimsohigh

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    Thanks!! The screen is probably my biggest complaint as well. Sometimes I can manage a bunch of dabs in a row without any clogging issues, other times I have to clean it every other dab.
    I'm sure sometimes it's me sucking to hard (hah)
     
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  22. JCharles

    JCharles ACMPR registered 26/07/2017

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    Quick cleaning tips for the DAbOX

    1. The easiest way to remove the glass tube is coaxing it up from the base instead of trying to pull from the tip.

    2. Give the screen a quick squeeze or blow before your iso soak (5-10 minutes max). And use a toothpick to pop out any leftovers. Rinse with water.

    3. Taking the atomizer out is easiest by setting your thumb on top of it (only if it's cold) and giving it a slight press down while drawing it out. Unscrew the coils from the base.

    4. Soak the coils - 1 hour iso soak, water rinse, dry for an hour, 6-10 second burn off. Repeat the whole process if needed or wanted - sometimes a second burn off is all it takes. Iso soak the glass and silicone screen for 5-10 minutes, rinse and dry.

    5. Putting the atomizer back in, you want to see a T shape at the base. If it's square it won't fit.

    6. Putting the glass tube back in is easy if you give it a twist as it passes the silicon o ring. I've found the tube seems to catch the ring and pulls it out of place.

    7. Quick iso wipe of the unit and an iso dipped qtip to clean the atomizer housing area and your done.



    Double extra bonus tip that you need to know.

    Stealth mode is entered with 4 clicks of the fire button and turned off with 4 clicks.

    Sometimes you may turn off the unit 1 click short and enter stealth mode instead. Double check by firing the unit for a few seconds after it's off to ensure the coils don't glow.

    Remember 5 clicks power on and off and 4 clicks stealth on and off.



    If you're still on the fence, buy one. They are awesome and DAbOX rips like a beast.
     
  23. ohmygodimsohigh

    ohmygodimsohigh Well-Known Member

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    Great post JCharles!
    Accidental stealth mode has cost me a few dabs, and created some awkward stains on my favorite shorts.
     
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  24. Svenson1980

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    Hey guys,

    Just wondering whether there are some more people who've used this device that can throw in their two cents. Many thanks to the ones whom already discussed their experiences!
     
  25. JCharles

    JCharles ACMPR registered 26/07/2017

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    @Svenson1980 For the price, it can't be beat.

    The device just launched and Vivant isn't a huge name in the vaporizer market (they do make good products at a fair price point though). Its also their first concentrate only product, so there won't be too many users yet.

    I managed win another DAbOX in an Instagram contest this week. Check out the Vivant Instagram account as they will be doing more giveaways (soon I think).


    I've run a few grams of shatter through mine so far. Did you have any questions I could answer??
     
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