Vaporizing Tobacco (not e-cigs)

I chuckled when I came across this post because I've been thinking about tobacco vaporization for awhile and finally tried it out the other month. I'm not sure I would recommend it, but it was definitely an interesting experience.

Some background: I used to smoke cigs 4 years ago, but quit, so I know what a nice buzz feels like. I was using a Volcano. The tobacco was strawberry flavored.

I ground the tobacco up as well as I could and then put it in a fired up a bag. After taking the bag down I realized that I had a pretty instant buzz. The vapor tasted pretty bad -- like nicotine more than strawberries -- but the effects were definitely pronounced. I had a great buzz for a few minutes, but I'm not sure it was worth the foul taste.:/

I'm feeling when you realise who's in charge of your brain, the success rate is more like 100%

An e-mail we got this morning.

"HI Pam,

. . .

I am one of those people who really is using it for tobacco, nicotine
delivery. No other quitting mechanism has dented my habit, and while
vaping may not end the habit either, it is definitely already improving
my health. It is actually satisfying enough to stand alone as my
nicotine source, and the wheezing and coughing are almost completely
gone already. Chronic bronchitis - goodbye! I didn't think it would
satisfy me, thought that it would actually end up as a gift for a friend
who would find a more traditional use for it, but it's mine, all mine,
now and forever.

Vaping as often as it takes to keep me satisfied, I find that I only use
up about one cigarette worth of tobacco per day - that's relative to my
nearly a pack a day habit. Even if vaporizing unleashes hitherto
unmentioned volatile nasties, my exposure is reduced overall to only 5%
of what are of the worst of the worst toxic byproducts, and all with no
combustion."

How interesting . . . and inspiring.

"it's mine, all mine" Sounds like VTAC

ive been wondering, where WOULD one find purer tobbacco with out all hte additives? (besides your garden) is there a brand that sells organically grown?

how about the ethnobotanical suppliers' tobacco and rustica... are they still better than commercial?

im Lucky, I have access to Black market "Chop Chop" Tobacco if i feel the Need, (which i dont) for vaporised Baccy, I found the Taste of a Convenional Ciggarette Appaling and Foul, Vaped thru My Extreme, Where the "Chop Chop" was a more clean and discernable "Flavour" , Distinctive, And the buzz was most definately there(not so with the ciggarette stuff, i couldnt hold in the Hit)) when held in the lungs appropiately.

For me i simply Much Prefer Cannabis as a substance and cant rationalise the use of tobacco anymore when assessed in the "Clear Light of Day" under direct Evaluation and comparison for me anyway, When i compare the two different effects or results, side by side, Canna wins hands down, and i recognise Baccy as the poison it is.

If i wanted to consume tobacco in future i would most definately research and grow the most Appropriate Strain of the Plant available, And Vaporising i think is Prolly the Safest approach to that particular substance, Just My considered opinion after 27 years of smoking ciggarettes and occasionaly chewing nicotine Gum, sometimes Together(like i said Addiction issues,I consider Smoking to be responsible for)

Crack that Give the Past the Slip

if you want to grow your own, look up nicotiana rustica, its something the south american shamans used with ayahuasca and for other things, its stronger than traditional tobacco (by about 20x) and has a different alkaloid profile that makes it somewhat more psychedelic

A couple of items, a) it's a girl b) I believe it's regular cigarettes

I was watching a Discovery Channel or similar show, that was discussing industrial tobacco. Ammonia is an important part of commercial cigarette smoke. They add chemicals that release ammonia during combustion, the ammonia combines with the nicotine to form the free-base of nicotine, extra addictive. Nice guys...

They say that pipe tobaccos don't have these additives. Since folks don't inhale pipe tobacco why would they waste the chemicals?

Where I live we always use some tobaco when smoking high quality mj, I dont understand how u get a good burning spliff otherwise?

it seems to vary from region to region, where i live weed is plentiful and we never use tobacco with it

I tried vapourising some tobacco for the first time yesterday. I took a wad of rolling tobacco and stuffed it into my herbalaire's crucible. I vapourised at 175C. The result was a bag of thick milky vapor. I almost felt guilty as I took it in, and had to keep reminding myself that "it's ok, it's only vapour". As an ex tobacco smoker, I actually found the flavour to be reasonably good. The effect was interesting, definitely stimulatory. For those who want to give up smoking, and can accept a change in ritual, this could be a good way to do it.

I quit smoking 2 years ago thanks to Swedish snus tobacco... i prefer this method to ecigs as you get the MAOIs etc from tobacco not just the nicotine. Which is why i am interested in vaping tobacco rather than just a nicotine liquid. But how safe is it? Sure i vape cannabis and it feels a lot safer than smoking it but vaping tobacco i don't know... have there been any studies into it?

If i have vaped some cannabis and i pop in a snus i definitely notice a very nice synergy between tobacco and cannabis.

I think if someone with the mindset of best available healthy choices wants to vaporize tobacco, they should at least use a natural grown unadulterated tobacco (not to be read as organic because its just not currently available or possible in volume as compared to DIY grown plants), as opposed to a 'processed' tobacco by BigTobacco.

I've been meaning to try these guys out for their raw leaves of multiple tobacco plant types (or combinations there of), and they appear to ship internationally without me being subject to tariff's or restrictions that normally come into play with tobacco since its in raw unprocessed form.

Anyways, I've yet to personally try it so I can't comment on findings/results of use or buying experiences. I just haven't had the inkling 'yet' to pull the trigger and give it a shot.


EDIT: OOOP's....... forgot to give ya's the link (guess what "I'm" vaping that isn't 'tobacco' ?? ) silly me, here it is: http://www.leafonly.com/

I've been smoking spliffs (most of my friends wont even smoke with me because of it) for a few years now. I have never smoked cigarettes on their own, but even by just smoking a little tobacco here and there I still crave it. I can smoke a bowl, but all i want to do afterwards is roll up a spliff. I'm sure its more of a mental thing, a habit, or an "oral fixation" more than it is truly an "addiction".

I started because I lived by myself one summer, had no piece, and decided i wanted to learn how to roll awesome joints while not wasting all my green. I started enjoying the buzz, or light-headedness and have been smoking 'em ever since.

Over the years I have mostly used the American Spirit "organic" roll your own tobacco. The one that comes in the blue bag. And also for some time i would buy a pack of the mellow American Spirit that came in the yellow carton (didnt come in bags). A single cigarette would typically last about a week (~1 spliff a day, maybe 2 or 3 on the weekends). I'm curious as to how much better American Spirit is in terms of toxins, additives, etc. when compared to the other Big Tobacco companies. Anyone know? Ive also gone back and forth between using a real filter and using just a "roach" (rolled up business card type of thing).

I've seen a lot of spliff discussions, and a common recommendation i see is Peter Stokkebye tobacco. There are a bunch of different types, but I would try the Amsterdam Shag and Turkish export. I'm trying to steer away from spliffs and since a bag of American Spirit lasts me months.. i'm not sure i'll ever try them.

I digress. I was looking to see if anyone that used to smoke spliffs now enjoys the same combination in vapor form. I'm looking to get my first vaporizer (leaning towards either a cera or a SSV/DB) so this has been on my mind and this discussion is exactly what i was looking for.

i think that vaporizing tobacco is not the proper thing to do if u are a smoker and u like it...i have tried vaporizing tobacco (even tho i am not a smoker anymore and i never was tobbaco smoker) and it just gives u a really intense taste of nicotine and no vissible vapor.i think that most ppl who are smoker feel that watching something coming out of your mouth when u exhale is really important.so i think vaporizing tobacco (for the nicotine) maybe can get u addicted to nicotine (or transfer your addiction for nicotine to vaporizing it but for sure smokers like the feeling of smoke and watching exhaling something so probably and i think these are the main problems that u have when u switch from smoking cannabis to vaping cannabis also...

so my conclusion is that if someone is just addicted to nicotine and wants to recieve nicotine healthy then yes vaporizing tobacco might be a good solution...On the other hand if someone is a smoker and is addicted to the feeling/taste/idea of the smoke + the habbit of smoking then its better to take an e-cig even tho its not sure they are going to like it.