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Vaporizing Tobacco (not e-cigs)

Discussion in 'Vaporizables' started by vtac, Apr 11, 2008.

  1. galumar

    galumar New Member

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    Thank you @Xelatsok i'll try exactly with an Oriental one. I've purchased some leaves, can't wait the delivery!

    P.S. oily means that producing some good clouds too?
     
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  2. Xelatsok

    Xelatsok vapes tobacco modding the vapes

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    Yes, Orientals produce more vapor comparing to Virginia and Burley.
     
  3. galumar

    galumar New Member

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    Thanks @Xelatsok, i've already ordered some oriental leaves.
     
  4. galumar

    galumar New Member

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    After a week of daily huge usage i can take some conclusions and i would to share with everyone can be interested:

    1) it's fucking good, it works! I don't touch a sigarette from the time in which i start using my vaporizer with tobacco;
    2) i didn't had nicotine issues, using light tobaccos as American Spirit Yellow and an organic Oriental in leaves bought online; just one time, trying different tobaccos and vaping 2/3 times in a few minutes, i felt a light head spinning, but nothing of boring;
    3) about temperature: i've read a lot of different info about tobacco vaporizing temp, from 120° to 190° Celsius. Very different recommendations on it, in my experience the best range is between 160° to 185° intended as the lower and the higher. Under 160° it's really hard taking some flavor and vapor. Usually i start vaping at 165/170° and finishing at 180/185° and i found it perfect for the pleasure, but overall the tobacco after the session looks perfectly dried with any burning traces.
    4) flavor is good, vapor amount a little less. I tried to add some drop of vegetable glycerin mixed with distilled water at 5/10% and it's all another thing. Very good clouds and seems it doesn't affect flavor in any way; it works great and from all the scientific informations i found it's totally safe at this temperature range. I've added just about 10 drops on 15g of tobacco and it makes the difference;
    5) i have a lot of organic peppermint and tried to use it too. Vaping it alone it's really a fresh flavor experience, so good. It has the problem of the vapor amount, it's possible to do the same glycerin process described. But for me the best, at the moment, is mixing it with tobacco. I've got some crazy good and tasty minty tobacco that is absolutely my favorite one, i can vape it all the time! Fresh, rich of flavor, a perfect pair. Peppermint it's less than 20% of the mix, since it's strong this percentage is good for feel it good without covering the tobacco flavor. The mix works perfectly because the temperature range is the same for the two herbs;
    6) i guess that nicotine amount delivered is really big, because i'm noticing that a single vaping session is much satisfying. If i usually smoked 10 cigarettes in a day, now i'm vaping 6/7 times in a day or less. After a session i don't feel the needing of vaping again for quite a good time, compared with cigarettes it's a huge difference.

    So, that's all for the moment. I strongly recommend this way for everyone that want to quit smoke and doesn't like liquid based e-cigs. Vaping it's a very good way for.
    And don't waste money or time with devices like iQos or Glo. Are just a fraud, if you want to heat tobacco it's not needed putting it inside a "cigarette". The cigarette was designed with that shape for be burned. It's only a way for selling you cigarettes forever an ever.
    Next steps will be trying two new flavors for mixing with tobacco, organic licorice and organic vanilla beans.
    In both of the two herbs i guess that a very small amount added to the tobacco (around 5%) it's enough for feeling the flavor. With vanilla beans it's possible trying some different ways for flavoring tobacco without heating it directly in the vaporizer, but i will talk about it in the future. Let's see it!
    I'm still waiting to try another organic tobacco in leaves (a Virginia), and the Toque Snuff product, both ordered and on the way for delivering. Again, i have some organic mediterranean sage on my garden that is still drying at the sun, i'll try it too, but i think is not possible use it with tobacco due to the difference of temperature, sage needs a very high one, close to the MJ range.

    Thanks to everyone that wrote on this thread, it was such a great help.
     
    Last edited: Nov 27, 2018
  5. rmayers

    rmayers New Member

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    I am happy to hear that! To be honest for me the key was money. I spent all my money on cigarets because I smoked a lot. But later I have found an useful article https://www.migvapor.com/ecig-news/smokers-save-money-switching-vaping/ about saving my money moving to vaporizing. So I am happy you did the same thing!
    best
     
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  6. karotene

    karotene Well-Known Member

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    I suspect that the glycerin dissolves some of the nicotine (among other things), then when vaped atomizes it at lower temps than straight tobacco.
     
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  7. Xelatsok

    Xelatsok vapes tobacco modding the vapes

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    From my experience, this is PG who extracts things from the tobacco, while VG makes clouds. VG extracts too but less compared to PG. Pipe tobacco vendors use up to 20% of PG in aromatic blends. VG is used for clouds in shisha “tobaccos”.
     
  8. karotene

    karotene Well-Known Member

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    I tend to use a bit of pg in there too cause 'why not'. Solubility beyond basic chem (polar, non-polar) is beyond me. The glycering has alcohol groups, so afaik is mildly polar.
    Anywhoo
    I love the smell of fresh glycerine-pipe-tobacco in the morning!
    [​IMG]
    (note, this is too 'wet' still, more tobacco will be added)
     
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  9. dr_no

    dr_no New Member

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    one observation about glycerin (mixed with 10% alc) i made recently: warming it up from room temperature to something like 50C will make it possible to spray it properly. Just put it in a microwave for 5 seconds or under hot water.

    Another completely different observation i made in the last months: switching from cigarettes to a vaporizer kinda made the tobacco craving disappear for me. I rarely use the vaporizer these days anymore. I'm actually almost a bit disappointed. After finally figuring out a great way to consume tobacco I'm not really that much into it anymore.

    My theory is that i was addicted to several things in the cigarette smoke at once and the vaporizer gave me some of them when I wanted all so i was able to wean off of them slowly. Now, while it's still pleasant to vapo tobacco, I don't have my decade-old reaction of "oh, a drink! now i want to smoke" anymore.
     
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