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Vaponic Herbal Vaporizer

Discussion in 'Portable Vaporizers' started by PlanetVape, May 15, 2012.

  1. Abysmal Vapor

    Abysmal Vapor Shaman of The Pyramid of Orlin'Malah

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    I have mentioned a few times that Vaponic works best for me with an Alcohol lamp. Maybe a few pages back i have posted a graphic about distance from flame and temp relation.
    Alcohol lamps are great ,check out the Biovapo. http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/vaponic-herbal-vaporizer.6052/page-26#post-1258521
    The flame temperature distribution at different heights of the alcohol burner. The abscissa denotes the vertical height relative to the flame nozzle and the ordinate denotes the corresponding temperature of the symmetrical core of the flame.
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    I like to hold the vaponic/cheaponic deep into the flame, around the 400-500 mark."
    Forgot to add that your should best avoid to use alcohol lamp with vapcaps.. There is too much heat transfer to the area with the rings. Those work better with torches.
     
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  2. Used2use

    Used2use Sometimes to stupid to become a fool

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    Rediscovered just recently a good old cona coffe maker
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    - with the alcohol heater it's a perfect combination for a nice session, or two :brow:
     
  3. Skunkport

    Skunkport Well-Known Member

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    Oh wow...now I'm looking at vacuum coffee makers damnit, I already have a cold brew one ordered.
    I only came to complain!

    I just had two lovely terpy awesome bowls in my vaponic. But now I feel too wrecked to manage another without combusting, burning myself or breaking my vape somehow. I just thought, I need to look through this thread for a stand of some sort, surely I've read it before but I don't remember one. The rubber cap is great but not all that stable when I'm stoned, it's not actually fell over but I'm scared it will.

    I have an alcohol lamp on order! I'm thinking if I just need to concentrate on the vape and not worrying about the torch I can get higher with it safely.
    This post is fairly pointless, I just wanted to complain because I wanted another bowl but I'm too high to vape another bowl. Actually, I've been writing this post for long enough I think I can now, I spent a while looking at vacuum coffee makers on amazon after I used google image search to find out what that actually was lol.
     
  4. azovoti

    azovoti New Member

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    Hey!
    So I'm back into the Vaponic after a 6 year break. Per your advice I bought a laboratory alcohol lamp and it works really well indeed.
    My first choice at home is the Vapocane, with the larger "peanut" glass pipe and a big torch. The Vaponic sure delivers a different experience. It's the yin to the Vapocane's yang and just as awesome.
    After the second round the stalk was full of condensed oils, which I vaped by heating it with a small torch... mmmm yummy.
    Life's good :)
     
  5. Dutch-Mic

    Dutch-Mic Well-Known Member

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    A while ago I looked for a European online store that sells alcohol lamps, but couldn't find one. Could someone recommend me a good alcohol lamp?
     
  6. Skunkport

    Skunkport Well-Known Member

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    Any lab equipment shop will sell them, try 'spirit lamp' if alcohol burner isn't bringing them up. Or ebay/amazon have quite a lot, I've bought 3 off there - 2 are pretty good but small, one is large enough but has a terrible flame so no recs from me yet.
     
  7. Dynavaper

    Dynavaper Karma Farmer

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    I just had my first session with the Vaponic since ages and still think that this is a fantastic vape. I do not use it often enough, that's obvious. Taste is through the roof with that thing! That last session was incredibly satisfying. Everybody should have a Vaponic in their collection!
     
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  8. Dutch-Mic

    Dutch-Mic Well-Known Member

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    I agree @Dynavaper!
    A connoisseur experience for such a low price (especially if you live in Europe, I saw a website where you can buy the Vaponic for less than 30 Euros), well suited for microdosing and one of the easiest vapes to clean.

    The Vaponic "stands or falls" with the heating technique. I tried various lighters with single and multiple flames and even though I had good results with a triple flame torch, I must confess that the single lighter still gives me the best and most consistent results.
     
  9. Abysmal Vapor

    Abysmal Vapor Shaman of The Pyramid of Orlin'Malah

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    @Dutch-Mic If you can get yourself (2-3$ on Aliexpress) or DIY an alcohol lamp i recommend it. Those things are made for heating test tubes,beats all my torches. Kind of feels like using the dynavap with a torch vs an IH,it heats evenly on all sides and it is so much faster, also less stress on the glass :)..Forgot to mention that i love rosin pancakes in the morning :)).
    Just took a side by side session on the Alcohol lamp vs Dynavap on the IH and i can say it doesnt even comes halfway close to the taste that the vaponic delivers.
     
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  10. Dutch-Mic

    Dutch-Mic Well-Known Member

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    Haha @Abysmal Vapor you gave me a Sunday mission: to buy, finally, an alcohol lamp! I'm too curious now :D
     
  11. justcametomind

    justcametomind IT'S TIME!

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    Talking about heating styles, last time I checked there were still a couple of Loxlux vaponic heater/lamp on sale in some obscure swiss growshop site. That's were I got mine.
     
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  12. RUDE BOY

    RUDE BOY Space is the Place

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  13. justcametomind

    justcametomind IT'S TIME!

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    I'm sorry but I may remember wrong.
    My mail account says I bought a loxlux from vaporizador.info which seems down.
    The swiss growshop is https://www.fourtwenty.ch but no loxlux at first sight.
    I'm sorry.
     
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  14. Skunkport

    Skunkport Well-Known Member

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    RUDE BOY Space is the Place

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    Thank you @Skunkport, I'll shoot them a message to see if they actually have them and can send one to me here in Florida. . . You can't change the country on their check out page and only allows you to choose Switzerland, so I'm not overly optimistic.

    :peace:
     
  16. PPN

    PPN Fleurs&Vapeur

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  17. Dutch-Mic

    Dutch-Mic Well-Known Member

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    I saw a post in the Vapman thread:

    I use the Vaponic almost daily and the only way I can get consistent results is by counting. My heating routine with a single flame lighter:

    - Depending on the strain a heat up time between 28 and 30 seconds (one- Mississippi, two- Mississippi, etc.)
    - Inhale three times for about three seconds.
    - 15 seconds reheat
    - Three inhalations
    - 15 seconds reheat
    - etc.

    If you grind your material (I put tiny nugs in the Vaponic) then you should heat and reheat it a bit less long. I hope this post helps to get more consistent results!
     
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  18. AtomicPB

    AtomicPB Well-Known Member

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    Hey @Dutch-Mic thank's for the detailed instructions.

    Because I posted in the Vapman thread I did not want to go into too much detail about the Vaponic. I guess my remark about the Vaponic might come over as a little negative and as if I have given up on it or don't like it. But the opposite is the truth, I really like the Vaponic.

    I think the Vaponic really shines, when it comes to clean and unaltered taste and if you own a Ultra-Sonic cleaner it is a dream to maintain. I also like that you can take several tokes which are extremely smooth after you have it at the right temperature and that there is almost no draw restriction. Not to forget the very fair price of under 40€.

    After some trying, I normally use a triple jet-flame lighter to heat the Vaponic. For the first time I heat it about 10 to 15 seconds depending on the lighter flame. I then take a first and second toke to test temperature/vapor production. I have recognized that the second toke is a better indicator for me to know if I have to apply more heat. I have the feeling that the heat is distributed better by then and I normally get more vapor on the second toke.

    Before knowing that, I applied more heat to the Vaponic after the first toke if I did not see the desired vapor, which most times led to me overheating. After realizing that, I rarely overheated again.

    After the first heating cycle, I reheat for about 5 to 8 seconds. Per heating cycle I normally take 3 to 5 tokes.

    What I also recognized is, that the high of the Vaponic is very positive. I don't know how to describe it better, since I don't think that my other vapes give me a negative vibe after using them but somehow the high from the Vaponic gives me a very (maybe more) positve vibe most times I use it.

    But as I have to "work" harder and have to be more attentive than with the Vapman or Omnivap (especially with induction heater) it is more of a special occasions Vape which I use regular nonetheless.

    @Dutch-Mic I will definitely test the Vaponic with a single jet-flame lighter this evening and will try it with your instructions. :brow::tup:
     
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  19. Dutch-Mic

    Dutch-Mic Well-Known Member

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    I hoped it worked out for you! About inconsistent results: today my wife entered the living room while I was heating the Vaponic and she started to talk enthousiastically about something. I focused on her story while still heating the Vaponic. After a while she asked what that smell was....I combusted :doh:

    Something else, a week or two ago I was a bit lazy and didn't put the Vaponic back in its wooden casing after cleaning all the glass parts. I used it for a while without the casing and must admit that the glass version also feels good in the hand. I still prefer the plus when I'm not alone in the house or share it with friends, but for a late night armchair session the regular Vaponic is also very enjoyable, a nice"Jointesque" experience.
     

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